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post #91 of 415
11/8/07 at 8:47am

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I say no way to the Japan trip. We don't want Kevin Youkilis to end up with a mystery intestinal virus that keeps him out of the lineup (and out of drug testing) for months on end.
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post #92 of 415
11/8/07 at 10:12am

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Walter,
This is the last image of Lidge I have
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post #93 of 415
11/8/07 at 10:16am

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Ouch!

There are so many things to see in that capture.
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post #94 of 415
11/8/07 at 10:31am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
These GM meetings have been pretty quiet so far.

I guess teams may be concerned about the pending Mitchell report before dropping a lot of dough on players who are about to gain "instant controversy" status.
IIRC the GM meetings are usually pretty quiet. It's the winter meetings (in January?) that generally have more activity going on.
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post #95 of 415
11/8/07 at 10:33am

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Lidge takes a dump on the mound.
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post #96 of 415
11/8/07 at 4:30pm

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Shane, I think that was my memory of him as well. And I hope that won't be a foreshadow of what is to come next season.

If MLB opens the season in Japan, I think it would be only for 2 games, and that will cost each team a home game, just like before.
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post #97 of 415
11/8/07 at 6:15pm

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And I hope that won't be a foreshadow of what is to come next season.
I could make a cheap philly choke joke but i'll hold off

I think MLB playing in Japan is not the right thing to do. Overseas travel and the planning and prep for that doesn't seem worth it.
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post #98 of 415
11/8/07 at 6:38pm

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I thought the NFL playing a game in London was dumb, too.

Let's see. MLB has been played recently in Japan, Puerto Rico, and Mexico, right?

Here's an article from Forbes on the attempt to globalize baseball by MLB.

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The Boston Globe is reporting today that the names of 11 free agents this off-season will be among those players named in the Mitchell Report. Do you suppose one of the eleven might be Barry Bonds?!
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post #99 of 415
11/8/07 at 6:42pm

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And, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are no more.



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I heard THIS on the radio this afternoon--MLB is going to have first-and third-base coaches wear helmets when on-the-field because of what happened to Mike Coolbaugh in Tulsa this year.

I understand the idea of advocating safety first. But this seems a little extreme. Arguments could certainly be made that if you are going to require this because of one tragedy...what will be required next? Maybe everyone in the first ten rows behind the dugouts at ballparks will be required to wear helmets during games. I wonder what Don Zimmer thinks of the rule?

And I suppose in this PC environment, there will be little opposition to the rule.

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And any baseball fan should look at these photos by Neil Leifer featured on SI.com.

Here's an example:

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post #100 of 415
11/9/07 at 5:24am

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I wish that meant no more baseball team in Tampa Bay.

I think playing any regular season games of any sport overseas is a dumb idea.
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post #101 of 415
11/9/07 at 5:49am

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The "11 free agents/Mitchell Report" story is now being tweaked. Sounds like the Globe got it wrong:

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Originally Posted by Associated Press
No more than 11 players from this year's free agent class were asked to speak with George Mitchell as part of his investigation into performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, a union official told agents this week.

Michael Weiner, the union's general counsel, made the statement Wednesday to agents attending a meeting in New York, two people with knowledge of the session said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Approximately 160 players are eligible for free agency. Many general managers this week said the possibility of particular players being implicated by Mitchell would not be considered when they pursue free agents.
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post #102 of 415
11/12/07 at 10:03pm

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Free Agency is open now.

The Yankees resigned Jorge Posada 4 yrs 52 million
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3107197

He's now the highest paid catcher.
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post #103 of 415
11/13/07 at 5:02am

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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
Free Agency is open now.

The Yankees resigned Jorge Posada 4 yrs 52 million
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3107197

He's now the highest paid catcher.

The deck was stacked in Jorge's favor:
He had an awesome year
There is no heir apparent
The Mets were interested in him
The Yanks were about to lose their exclusivity to negotiate

I am under no delusion that he'll be catching at age 40, but he's been 'a good soldier' and perhaps could mentor a kid coming up.
Besides, I'm really getting into shouting 'hip hip Jorge !' when he comes up to bat
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post #104 of 415
11/13/07 at 10:44am

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Best signing the Yanks have made in awhile...for all the reasons stated by Lew. The way his offense blossomed last year...coupled with how his defense has blossomed under the tutelage of Tony Pena...makes him a very important cog in the Yankee attack.

"Hip Hip Jorge" IS very cool!
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post #105 of 415
11/13/07 at 11:08am

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Holy crap. Beckett doesn't win the Cy Young.

That was going to be the prediction to really put me on the map. He wuz robbed, I tell ya.
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post #106 of 415
11/13/07 at 12:47pm

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Holy crap. Beckett doesn't win the Cy Young.

That was going to be the prediction to really put me on the map. He wuz robbed, I tell ya.

Early reports have Beckett left off two ballots completely and Sabathia off one. Let me guess, now the writers down NY way don't believe pitchers should be eligible for the Cy Young either?
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post #107 of 415
11/13/07 at 3:28pm

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the voting wasn't really close though. i guess the 32 more innings pitched really stuck with the writers?
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post #108 of 415
11/13/07 at 5:28pm

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I was and I am in still complete shock Beckett lost the Cy Young. Sebathia was pretty dominant this year but not like Beckett and I'm avoiding the post season.

The NL will be interesting. It should be Peavy, Penny or Brandon Webb. Likely Peavy but we'll see.
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post #109 of 415
11/13/07 at 5:35pm

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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
I was and I am in still complete shock Beckett lost the Cy Young. Sebathia was pretty dominant this year but not like Beckett and I'm avoiding the post season.

The NL will be interesting. It should be Peavy, Penny or Brandon Webb. Likely Peavy but we'll see.


Gotta be Webb. After all, he pitched 236 innings this year. Peavy only threw 223. Penny is a piker at 201.

I'm still trying to determine if I want to carry a grudge on the Beckett/Sabathia decision like I do with the Pedro/Halliday vote of 2003.
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post #110 of 415
11/14/07 at 5:05am

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Mike, I know you are typing out of frustration, but let's review this again. The 2002 and 2003 seasons were not comparable to this season. Pedro was, on an inning by inning basis, by far the best pitcher in the game. He also pitched a lot less innings. Those seasons were more interesting debates in my mind.

This year, Beckett and Sabathia are pretty darn close on a per-inning basis. Sabathia has the same WHIP, a better ERA. Beckett strikes out more people, Sabathia walks less people. All done with a 40 innings difference (not 32), which is something like 4.5 games differential.

This is not the situation in the NL. Peavy threw 13 innings less, but with a significantly better ERA and WHIP. He issues about the same amount of walks as Webb, and strikes out a ton more. The NL Cy Young is a cakewalk for Peavy.
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post #111 of 415
11/14/07 at 5:15am

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Originally Posted by Kirk Tsai
Mike, I know you are typing out of frustration, but let's review this again. The 2002 and 2003 seasons were not comparable to this season. Pedro was, on an inning by inning basis, by far the best pitcher in the game. He also pitched a lot less innings. Those seasons were more interesting debates in my mind.

This year, Beckett and Sabathia are pretty darn close on a per-inning basis. Sabathia has the same WHIP, a better ERA. Beckett strikes out more people, Sabathia walks less people. All done with a 40 innings difference (not 32), which is something like 4.5 games differential.

This is not the situation in the NL. Peavy threw 13 innings less, but with a significantly better ERA and WHIP. He issues about the same amount of walks as Webb, and strikes out a ton more. The NL Cy Young is a cakewalk for Peavy.
I usually don't give a rats ass about awards because they're so political. However, if the voting was closed before the playoffs began, I can see why CC had almost twice as many first place votes than Beckett, especially if you take into consideration the difference in innings pitched with the same WHIP and better ERA.
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post #112 of 415
11/14/07 at 6:44am

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Originally Posted by Kirk Tsai
Mike, I know you are typing out of frustration...

Indeed. But, you don't understand. I could have had class. I could have been a contender.

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post #113 of 415
11/14/07 at 7:38am

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Turns out the Sox and Athletics will open the season in Japan (March 25 & 26).

Oakland will be the home team for both games. They'll also be playing some day/night exhibitions against Japanese teams.

Wonder how they appeased the players/union.
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post #114 of 415
11/14/07 at 7:43am

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The Yanks may end up with A-Rod...at a reduced rate!

Imagine being Alex Redriguez and your agent convinced you to opt out of the Yankee contract (giving up the Rangers money)...convinces you that someone will
pay you these incredibly huge $$$...and now you are left with the option of going back to the Yankees (one of the few--if not ONLY--teams that wants you) at a reduced salary/contract!!!

Wow.
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post #115 of 415
11/14/07 at 10:22am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Indeed. But, you don't understand. I could have had class. I could have been a contender.

"...instead of a nobody, which is what I am."

Sorry Mike, I ain't buying that crap! Boston right now isn't just a contender, it's a friggin' juggernaut. You got the Sox coming back again in the ALCS and sweeping to win the World Series. The Patriots are undefeated with Tom Brady going for an all time single season record. The Celtics are also undefeated in the early season, and KG looks like he's a frontrunner to every award this NBA season.

I'm an LA sports fan. We've got the Dodgers, who have in-house fighting between the vets and the young guys. We just brought in Joe Torre from the evil empire, and we've got Juan Pierre playing center field. Since 1988, the Dodgers have won exactly one playoff game. The biggest star in all of LA sports wants out of the Lakers, or maybe not, or maybe it's the boss who wants him out now. Who knows? And the Lakers were in the KG sweepstakes too, losing to, you guessed it, the arch rival Boston Celtics! Not that I care very much, but did I mention there's no LA pro football team?

...and you were saying?
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post #116 of 415
11/14/07 at 10:40am

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Kirk: Please buy my crap!

I wasn't referring to the Red Sox bein' a contenduh...I was referring to me...me...it's all about ME! Well, me and my pre-season prediction that Beckett would win the AL Cy Young award (a prediction that was roundly pooh-poohed!). I thought I might join the ranks of the great prognosticators!

Just for the record...I'm not a "Boston-area" sports fan. Just the Sox (because of Yaz in '67). I'm a Colts fan (Unitas). But don't follow the NFL nearly as closely as MLB. Used to be a Celtics fan (Havlicek)...but I can't stand the NBA anymore. Never liked hockey at all.
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post #117 of 415
11/14/07 at 10:44am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
The Yanks may end up with A-Rod...at a reduced rate!

Imagine being Alex Redriguez and your agent convinced you to opt out of the Yankee contract (giving up the Rangers money)...convinces you that someone will
pay you these incredibly huge $$$...and now you are left with the option of going back to the Yankees (one of the few--if not ONLY--teams that wants you) at a reduced salary/contract!!!

Wow.
That would be great!

But there's probably some owner dumb enough to pay what Boras was initially asking for. Maybe Tom Hicks again?
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post #118 of 415
11/14/07 at 10:46am

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This is the best news I've heard so far. Keep him out of Boston!
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post #119 of 415
11/14/07 at 11:38am

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Originally Posted by Jassen M. West
This is the best news I've heard so far. Keep him out of Boston!
No news that involves the Yankees potentially resigning Rodriguez is good news. The man is too damn good at playing baseball for me to want him on the Yankees.
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post #120 of 415
11/14/07 at 12:47pm

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He really should consider taking his career to the National League!
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