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post #31 of 415
10/29/07 at 6:26pm

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Tigers trade 2 prospects to the Braves for Renteria.
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post #32 of 415
10/29/07 at 8:24pm

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Originally Posted by Jason Seaver
It's signing the likes of Gary Matthews Jr. to big-money deals that will require economy-devastating inflation to become reasonable.

Jason: thanks for explaining the Posada/Girardi situation.

And don't forget the Royals giving Gil Meche (9-13 this year) $55 million over five years!
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post #33 of 415
10/29/07 at 9:24pm

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If you look at Meche's stats, he did quite well. His era was a nice 3.67. He might be overpaid a bit but I think the Royals had to in order to lure a front line starter to KC.
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post #34 of 415
10/29/07 at 10:30pm

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Here's hoping to Arod not getting an offer over $20million/year on whatever deal he signs. Let's hope no GM is desperate enough to bring the Arod show their team for a premium price.

as evil as Boras may be, he ain't stupid. i'm sure he know exactly what ARod could get on the open market. he wants his cut. if he thought the Yankees offer was the best, he would have let him know.
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post #35 of 415
10/30/07 at 7:17am

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Girardi agrees to a reported three-year, $6 million deal with the Yankees.

The Dodgers are reportedly interested in having Torre replace Grady Little. Mattingly would ride Torre's coattails cross-country to L.A.
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post #36 of 415
10/30/07 at 7:29am

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Has anyone heard a peep from Jeter since the end of the season?

I haven't heard word one out of his mouth through the entire Torre affair.

Understand that I'm not saying he should be out there commenting on every headline...I am simply curious if anyone has read/heard anything he's said since the end of the ALDS with the Indians.

I read quite a few players say they supported Torre (Mussina, Rivera, etc) but not Jeter.
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post #37 of 415
10/30/07 at 8:57am

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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
Tigers trade 2 prospects to the Braves for Renteria.

This is mainly because the Braves think Yunel Escobar can be their full-time SS. Renteria's ankle injury opened the door for Escobar to shine last this season.
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post #38 of 415
10/30/07 at 9:13am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Has anyone heard a peep from Jeter since the end of the season?

I haven't heard word one out of his mouth through the entire Torre affair.

Jeter made a statement which was kind of amazing in its own way. It's the ur-Jeter comment, superficially saying all the right things in a professional way while actually saying nothing at all.
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post #39 of 415
10/30/07 at 9:22am

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Thanks, Jason.

That never rippled on my radar.

I'm sure it was all heartfelt. But to "issue a statement" seems rather passionless.
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post #40 of 415
10/30/07 at 9:32am

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Originally Posted by Scott_J
The Dodgers are reportedly interested in having Torre replace Grady Little. Mattingly would ride Torre's coattails cross-country to L.A.

Not looking forward to this. If the Dodgers get Torre, I can only assume that he'll still be among the highest paid managers in the game, and on a multi-year basis. I'm not big on Little, but throwing money at the manager spot when there are better places to do so is not my favorite move. The Dodgers have a lot of talent in the system, but we need players, not a big name manager.
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post #41 of 415
10/30/07 at 9:35am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Thanks, Jason.

That never rippled on my radar.

I'm sure it was all heartfelt. But to "issue a statement" seems rather passionless.

"Issuing a statement" is always something I relate to the Red Sox. When confronted by the Curly Haired Boyfriend and the rest of the "I'm more important than the players or their stories" media, issuing a statement in Boston is a smart thing. But Jeter was/is annointed by the media in NYC. He is practically untouchable. I wonder why he did this instead of sitting down and doing it verbally. Maybe he was unavailable, on vacation or something. I mean, we do know he's been out playing a few rounds of golf.
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post #42 of 415
10/30/07 at 10:23am

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If he had to respond to actual questions, he might slip and say something.
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post #43 of 415
10/30/07 at 10:37am

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He probably just did the "usual" and after his season was over jumped on his private jet with a supermodel on his arm and whisked her away to some privately-owned island...

That sonuvab------!
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post #44 of 415
10/30/07 at 10:46am

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The Dodgers have a lot of talent in the system, but we need players, not a big name manager.
A manager might be what the Dodgers need though. Little may be unable to handle the mix of youth + elder statesman.

In the end, the Dodgers need some firepower in a big way at 3b and the outfield. They don't play smallball well at all.

On a side note, I saw where the Brewers are cutting ties with Geof Jenkins.
I also saw where the Curt Schilling is a bit up in the air in Boston. He has a team option(if memory serves) of 13 million and he isn't necessarily the pitcher he once was. I think Curt feels he can play and wants to come back for 1 more year.
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post #45 of 415
10/30/07 at 10:53am

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I think the Sox could get one more good year out of Schilling. I hope Curt doesn't go "all ego" and make some demands they won't/can't meet. Otherwise, he might end up going to teach the kids in Tampa Bay (like he opined mid-season)!

I would like the Sox to think about throwing in an extra year to Lowell (above the rumored two-year contract they apparently would like to offer).

While I think the Sox have made some good decisions letting Pedro and Damon go in recent years, I'd like to take a chance to Lowell for the long-term.
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post #46 of 415
10/30/07 at 11:30am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
He probably just did the "usual" and after his season was over jumped on his private jet with a supermodel on his arm and whisked her away to some privately-owned island...

That sonuvab------!

Jeter deserves better than snide remarks like this that have no basis in reality.

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I mean, seriously, he's been connected to WAY more actresses and entertainers than supermodels. Get with the program!
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post #47 of 415
10/30/07 at 11:37am

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Wasn't he also credited with "giving Jessica Alba the herpes"?
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post #48 of 415
10/30/07 at 11:38am

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SNIDE?!?!

I'm just jealous as hell!

I don't want to be the one to steer this thread completely off-topic, but everytime I see Mariah Carey poured into one of those mini-dresses, I just think of Jeter and shake my head...

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Wasn't he also credited with "giving Jessica Alba the herpes"?

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post #49 of 415
10/30/07 at 2:10pm

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Mike,
Offering Lowell a 3 yr deal is great for the club but I'll bet another club offers him a long term deal in the 4-6 year range. At that point they might have to consider Youkallis or another alternative.

Personally I hope the Dodgers don't take the A-Rod pill and decide to make a trade for Cabrera in Florida.
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post #50 of 415
10/30/07 at 9:14pm

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Originally Posted by Kirk Tsai
Not looking forward to this. If the Dodgers get Torre, I can only assume that he'll still be among the highest paid managers in the game, and on a multi-year basis.
According to Ken Rosenthal. the NY Post is reporting that they're discussing a three-year, $14.5 million deal ($4.83m/yr., which would keep him as the highest-paid manager, I believe).

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
I think the Sox could get one more good year out of Schilling. I hope Curt doesn't go "all ego" and make some demands they won't/can't meet. Otherwise, he might end up going to teach the kids in Tampa Bay (like he opined mid-season)!
If I were to place a bet on where he'll play next year, I'd put my money on a return to Philly. I think he wants to go back, and I imagine they'd want him.
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post #51 of 415
10/30/07 at 9:49pm

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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
Mike,
Offering Lowell a 3 yr deal is great for the club but I'll bet another club offers him a long term deal in the 4-6 year range. At that point they might have to consider Youkallis or another alternative.

So let's offer him four years at a good price and lock him in, already! He's only 33. (A-Rod is only a year younger!) Lowell has driven in 100+ RBIs three different seasons (91+ five different seasons). Lifetime .280 hitter (the .324 this year looks out-of-whack compared to the rest of his career. Previous best was .293.). Only about 73 SOs a season.

One of the things I like best about him is that he's bi-lingual and gets along really well with both the English and Spanish-speaking players in the clubhouse.

Oh well. We'll see how things go. I bet there's a lot of "Money Ball"-type numbers crunching going on with this decision.
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post #52 of 415
10/31/07 at 10:41am

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They say that Torre and LA are close to a deal 3 yrs 14.5 million. Mattingly would come of course and the news places are speculating that A Rod would go as well. I wonder who else would follow Torre?
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post #53 of 415
11/1/07 at 4:14pm

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Torre deal is done.

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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
Personally I hope the Dodgers don't take the A-Rod pill and decide to make a trade for Cabrera in Florida.

I really can't believe the Marlins would put Cabrera on the market. I mean, he's already the best young hitter in the game. But, today even Peter Gammons is saying that it's possible that he could be traded. I'm not familiar with the Marlins' financial situation, but it's a shame how often they send away their young talents.
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post #54 of 415
11/1/07 at 4:24pm

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According to ESPN's Jayson Stark tonight, Boras is looking for 12 (!) years for A-Rod at 30-million per. He remarked the A-Rod situation needs to be looked upon as a corporate acquisition more than a ballplayer signing.

Craaazy. This will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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post #55 of 415
11/1/07 at 5:52pm

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Problem with Cabrera is the Marlins can't afford to keep him once he gets close to a new contract. They need to get rid of him now while the market will give them top dollar.

Unfortunately they don't realize the value in keeping great talent. The Tigers went down that road years ago and never won until they decided to plunk down some cash.
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post #56 of 415
11/1/07 at 10:42pm

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Boras is looking for 12 (!) years for A-Rod at 30-million per.
that's utterly ridiculous. but then i was floored when he got a quarter-billion.
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post #57 of 415
11/2/07 at 4:51am

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Honestly, I wouldn't think A-Rod himself is looking for a 12-year contract. This seems to be all about Boras.
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post #58 of 415
11/2/07 at 6:08am

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Could be strategy as simple as, "if we ask for 12...the club will think they are getting a steal if we agree to ten."

A-Rod would be 44 at the end of a 12 year deal.
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post #59 of 415
11/2/07 at 6:27am

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Any team would have to be out of their minds to give A-Rod a deal that lasts until he is 44. The would certainly need a clause to opt out after 6 years or something.
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post #60 of 415
11/2/07 at 8:40am

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how much longer does Ortiz's contract run for? i'd bet most fans would rather have him than ARod. sure he's not good defensively, but who cares? he actually performs in the off-season. if Arod gets $$$, how much does Pappy get?
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