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post #61 of 116
12/1/07 at 2:28pm

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Originally Posted by darkrock17
I never saw any TV spots for Grindhouse, just what I read online and the write up the they did in Entertainment Weekly.

To be quite honest, I never saw any tv-spots either as I watch very little tv, if any. I'm sure there were a ton of commercials, but for people who hate tv (and there are a lot of us out there), all those commercials mean nothing. Of course I knew of the film and when it was coming out so that wasn't an issue.

I do find Weinstein's marketing to be very bad in the billboard-ad department, however. Los Angeles is covered with billboards, bus-stops, and other visible outside print advertisng - tons of upcoming movies are advertised this way. I think I saw maybe two buses drive by with the GRINDHOUSE poster on the side strip at the time. That was it. Two buses zipping by before you can even get a good look. No billboards - nothing. Just last week, THE MIST opened, but I saw absolutely no billboards/bus-stops with that on it at all. Every other major studio seems to saturate the city with such billboards for their new movies, but Weinstein just skips that option for the most part. I think it's a big marketing mistake as seeing those big ads every day as you're driving around does cause a lot of awareness for a new film. If I wasn't on-line, those billboards would pretty much be my only exposure to what new films are coming out every week.
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post #62 of 116
12/1/07 at 7:03pm
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If it wasn't for a friend showing me the trailer online, and reading what EW wrote about it, I would of never known about this movie.

I watch lots of TV, but I rarely TV spots of movies.
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post #63 of 116
12/1/07 at 8:33pm

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Originally Posted by darkrock17
I would of never known about this movie.

Would've.
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post #64 of 116
12/2/07 at 8:45am

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I watch virtually no TV - too busy with DVDs - but I knew about the movie. Again, it surprises me that a movie buff would never have heard of the flick until after the fact - just missing TV ads doesn't cover it...
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post #65 of 116
12/4/07 at 11:44am

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Originally Posted by Colton
On the record, GRINDHOUSE was a fun movie to watch in the theaters. Loved PLANET TERROR ... hated DEATH PROOF. The faux trailers in the middle were a laugh riot! I loved the whole look of the scratchy film and missing reels. Too bad it wasn't a hit. Maybe if it came out in the 80s it would have had a chance.

What a waste Death Proof was. Planet Terror on the other hand absolutely rocked, can barely wait for the BD.
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post #66 of 116
12/4/07 at 11:55am

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Originally Posted by AlexBC
...can barely wait for the BD.
Since Weinstein is HD DVD exclusive, it's going to be a while.
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post #67 of 116
12/4/07 at 12:25pm
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BD? Whats BD?
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post #68 of 116
12/4/07 at 12:34pm

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Blu-Ray disc.
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post #69 of 116
12/4/07 at 3:27pm
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Blu-Ray is way too expensive. I'm waiting for The Box Set Collector's Edition sometime next year.
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post #70 of 116
12/4/07 at 7:06pm

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Originally Posted by TravisR
Since Weinstein is HD DVD exclusive, it's going to be a while.

Well, Weinstein is more like a no show for over 6 months now. The talks are they are going BD as well.

Anyway, the company that distributes Planet Terror here in Brazil is a BD exclusive. So, eventually we'll be getting a BD version.

In other territories, it's distributed by Buena Vista under the Dimension Label. So, it will also come out eventually.

For exemple, Scary Movie 4 is also distributed by Buena vista under the Dimension Label almost everywhere in the world outside the US. That's why it's already available in Europe, Japan and Australia on BD. It will soon be out here in Brazil as well.


Darkrock,

Blu-ray discs are very affordable compared to DVDs. You can get them easily around 20 dolars and with the great deals poping almost every week, like buy one get one free, you can get discs by less than 10 bucks.
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post #71 of 116
12/4/07 at 7:17pm

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Since the Weinsteins are in that exclusive rental deal with Blockbuster and Blockbuster is Blu-Ray exclusive, won't that eventually force the Weinsteins to go Blu? That, or they'll wait until their agreement w/Blockbuster expires before they start releasing anything in HiDef.
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post #72 of 116
12/4/07 at 8:56pm

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Originally Posted by SD_Brian
Since the Weinsteins are in that exclusive rental deal with Blockbuster and Blockbuster is Blu-Ray exclusive, won't that eventually force the Weinsteins to go Blu?
Yeah but it's going to take yearS for one format to kill off the other. Like AlexBC said, the lack of HD DVDs doesn't exactly show their allegiance to that format but I still think it's going to be a long until Grindhouse comes out in HD. I'd love to be wrong though.
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post #73 of 116
12/4/07 at 9:22pm

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Originally Posted by AlexBC
Blu-ray discs are very affordable compared to DVDs. You can get them easily around 20 dolars and with the great deals poping almost every week, like buy one get one free, you can get discs by less than 10 bucks.
This depends. On older releases you can get some good deals. However, I picked up the Grindhouse films on thier respective release dates for $14.99 each. The average new release Bluray/HD DVD titles come out at retail stores for around $24.99 to $29.99 and up depending on which stores you go to. If you wait till Bluray/HD DVDs become affordable at around $14.99 the exact same titles on sd dvd will be between $5.00 to $10.00. So, in the long run, for now, sd dvds will continue to be less expensive than thier Hi-Def counter parts. I didn't get into HDM because of affordability, I jumped in because of the quality differences in PQ and AQ. To me, that's worth the extra expense.
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post #74 of 116
12/4/07 at 9:38pm

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Originally Posted by TravisR
I still think it's going to be a long until Grindhouse comes out in HD. I'd love to be wrong though.

Grindhouse in HD? Something seems, I dunno, just wrong with that. Grindhouse was, after all, a movie deliberately designed to look as lousy as possible. HD will have 6x the clarity of the missing reels and print damage you'd see on standard DVD!!!
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post #75 of 116
12/4/07 at 9:55pm

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Originally Posted by SD_Brian
Grindhouse in HD? Something seems, I dunno, just wrong with that. Grindhouse was, after all, a movie deliberately designed to look as lousy as possible. HD will have 6x the clarity of the missing reels and print damage you'd see on standard DVD!!!
We had a whole thread that was about just that. I thought Grindhouse didn't need an HD transfer. There are a great many that do. To each, his own, I guess.
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post #76 of 116
12/5/07 at 6:39am

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Grindhouse was designed to "look lousy" by having a lot of print damage, not by having low resolution. I hope to see it released in HD.
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post #77 of 116
12/5/07 at 3:51pm

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Originally Posted by cafink
Grindhouse was designed to "look lousy" by having a lot of print damage, not by having low resolution. I hope to see it released in HD.

Well, as someone posted above, to each his own and I wouldn't deny you the right to get it in HD. But an HD presentation does in fact seem to me to defeat the purpose of giving a "mock grindhouse" look to the film. You would have never seen any 1970's era exploitation film in a real grindhouse theater of the time that didn't look like it was blown up from a second generation 16 mm dupe, let alone in anything like high definition. Hence, rendering these films in HD will only diminish the low-budget exploitation flavor of the viewing experience (as ersatz as it may be) even with the faux scratches and film damage retained (and ironically enough, "enhanced").
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post #78 of 116
12/5/07 at 3:56pm

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I'm going to videotape the DVD as it plays on my TV so it looks even worse.

When the movie played in theaters, it was on film prints which had a greater resolution than HD so I can't fathom people trying to say that it should look 'bad'. The goal should be to look like the theater and the higher resolution given by HD will come closer to that than SD.
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post #79 of 116
12/5/07 at 4:23pm

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Death Proof = 6x more tedious in glorious high definition! Listen as 7.1 channels of the most godawful, banal dialogue ever written surrounds you in all its mind-numbing, pop culture-spewing splendor! Experience Tarantino's foot fetish in the amazing clarity of 1080p! Women's feet never looked so bare!
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post #80 of 116
12/5/07 at 8:17pm

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I just picked up both releases but I missed them in the theatres. I want to watch them in the correct order, which movie was shown first in the theatres?
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post #81 of 116
12/5/07 at 8:20pm

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^Planet Terror and then Death Proof.
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post #82 of 116
12/5/07 at 8:38pm

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Thank you
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post #83 of 116
12/5/07 at 9:04pm

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Originally Posted by RoyM
Well, as someone posted above, to each his own and I wouldn't deny you the right to get it in HD. But an HD presentation does in fact seem to me to defeat the purpose of giving a "mock grindhouse" look to the film. You would have never seen any 1970's era exploitation film in a real grindhouse theater of the time that didn't look like it was blown up from a second generation 16 mm dupe, let alone in anything like high definition. Hence, rendering these films in HD will only diminish the low-budget exploitation flavor of the viewing experience (as ersatz as it may be) even with the faux scratches and film damage retained (and ironically enough, "enhanced").

I don't see how HD would diminish the "mock grindhouse" look any more than watching Grindhouse in the theater would have. For its theatrical release, Grindhouse was given faux print damage and missing reels, but it was not reduced in resolution. In fact, its theatrical screening had greater resolution than HD. I'd like to see Grindhouse as close as possible to the manner in which Tarantino and Rodriguez created it, and while they saw fit to add print damage and missing reels, they did not opt to present it with only 480 lines of resolution, so I don't understand why this would be more desirable for Grindhouse than for any other film.
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post #84 of 116
12/6/07 at 12:28am

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Originally Posted by cafink
I don't see how HD would diminish the "mock grindhouse" look any more than watching Grindhouse in the theater would have. For its theatrical release, Grindhouse was given faux print damage and missing reels, but it was not reduced in resolution. In fact, its theatrical screening had greater resolution than HD. I'd like to see Grindhouse as close as possible to the manner in which Tarantino and Rodriguez created it, and while they saw fit to add print damage and missing reels, they did not opt to present it with only 480 lines of resolution, so I don't understand why this would be more desirable for Grindhouse than for any other film.

I guess you are missing the point of my (and other posters) argument here. I'm not saying that an HD version of the film Grindhouse would not be a more accurate replication of the experience of seeing the movie as it was presented originally in the theater, which is your point and one to which I heartily assent. What I am arguing is that an HD presentation of the film diminishes the overall "faux grindhouse" experience of the film itself simply by rendering it in a format even further removed from the original sources that inspired it.

In other words, if you really want to get into the low budget exploitation 42nd Street grindhouse and/or Vestron video spirit of the movie that Tarantino really intended, you are much better off going with the lower definition transfer. Frankly, my guess is that Tarantino would probably have filmed it in 16mm and blown it up for theatrical release if the studio would have let him get away with that.
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post #85 of 116
12/6/07 at 7:44am

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Originally Posted by RoyM
In other words, if you really want to get into the low budget exploitation 42nd Street grindhouse and/or Vestron video spirit of the movie that Tarantino really intended, you are much better off going with the lower definition transfer.
So Grindhouse should be watched at a lower resolution than it was shown in theaters because the movies that it paid homage to or parodied looked a certain way? The look of Grindhouse was decided when the movie was made. Whatever visual look or deterioration or lack of resolution that they wanted to emulate from the old grindhouse movies was achieved when they made the movie and was shown in the theater. Capturing the look that the movie had in the theater- and not the look of other movies that inspired it- is all that should be important.

To capture the look and feel of grindhouse theaters, I could also dump various bodily fluids all over my floor, start a fight with other people that I'm watching the movie with or shoot heroin during the movie.
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post #86 of 116
12/6/07 at 8:38am

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I don't think anyone's arguing that Grindhouse SHOULDN'T be released in HD, just that it's ironic to make a movie designed to look as bad as possible look as good as possible.
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post #87 of 116
12/6/07 at 11:40pm

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Originally Posted by SD_Brian
I don't think anyone's arguing that Grindhouse SHOULDN'T be released in HD, just that it's ironic to make a movie designed to look as bad as possible look as good as possible.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!
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post #88 of 116
12/17/07 at 3:32pm
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HD and Blu-Ray version for Grindhouse would make alot of people happy, but HD and Blu-Ray players and DVD's aren't wallet friendly though.

Not all Grindhouse films were made to look bad, in 30 something years films can go bad and are in need of restoration.
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post #89 of 116
12/17/07 at 4:16pm

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From Germany

Death Proof [HD DVD]


Death Proof [Blu-ray]

Planet Terror will also available as HD DVD and Blu-Ray.
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post #90 of 116
12/17/07 at 6:00pm
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When is this coming to the US?
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