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James Randi Offers $1 Million If Audiophiles Can Prove $7,250 Cables Are Better

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James Randi Offers $1 Million If Audiophiles Can Prove $7,250 Cables Are Better

Our rant about those $7,250 Pear Anjou speaker cables found its way to the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF), and Randi offered $1 million to anyone who can prove those cables are any better than ordinary (and also overpriced) Monster Cables. Pointing out the absurd review by audiophile Dave Clark, who called the cables "danceable," Randi called it "hilarious and preposterous." He added that if the cables could do what their makers claimed, "they would be paranormal."

We see that the Pear Cable company is advertising a pair of 12-foot "Anjou" audio cables for $7,250; that's $302 a foot! And, as expected, "experts" were approached for their opinions on the performance of these wonders ... Well, we at the JREF are willing to be shown that these "no-compromise" cables perform better than, say, the equivalent Monster cables. While Pear rattles on about "capacitance," "inductance," "skin effect," "mechanical integrity" and "radio frequency interface," - all real qualities and concerns, and adored by the hi-fi nut-cases - we naively believe that a product should be judged by its actual performance, not by qualities that can only be perceived by attentive dogs or by hi-tech instrumentation. That said, we offer the JREF million-dollar prize to - for example - Dave Clark, Editor of the audio review publication Positive Feedback Online.
This is not Randi's first clash with audiophile reviewers who claim to hear differences between various pieces of exotic equipment. He promises a million dollars (which he has waiting in an account for them) if any can prove in double-blind scientific testing that their extraordinary claims are true. None have stepped up so far.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/calling-b...ter-305549.php


And a little more at Randi's site.
http://www.randi.org/jr/2007-09/092807reply.html#i4

Thoughts?

I have to go with Randi on this. $7,000+ for speaker cables? Come on.

The law of diminishing returns had to start kicking in much closer to $100.
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So, how does the Pear Anjou compare to the Nordost Odin?
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I was flipping through a TAS at the bookstore today and noticed that the most of the ads for speaker cable didn't have any real claims from the company in them at all, other than superior engineering and the immense effort put into making them. The amazing claims in the ads were all quotes from different reviewers. I'd absolutely love to see these reviews submit to a double blind test. Given the superlatives they heap on expensive cables, you would think that they would jump on something like this, since the difference is so vast.
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Randi really needs to consult with ExtremeSkeptic
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Originally Posted by JeremyErwin
Randi really needs to consult with ExtremeSkeptic

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I don't really think you have to go as high as $302/foot before you yell bullshit. The bullshit threshold is probably somewhere around $1/foot. But why do you think they give rapturous reviews to expensive interconnects? Perhaps because they will advertise in your magazine? Do you think makers of 16 gauge wire and 1.99 interconnects are really going to add to the magazine's bottom lines?

Since it's just superstition anyway, they can say anything they want. The readers just lap it up.
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I suspect that everyone has their own "value for the money" threshold. I use cheap 14-gauge speaker wire, but there are posters on slashdot who proudly use generic 18 gauge lamp cord.
IMHO, that's not thick enough (judging by received wisdom), and the strands aren't clearly labeled for me.

I don't have the gear to judge a difference. Perhaps those that do have money to throw around.
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It's just cognitive dissonance. You pay more, you will hear more. You pay less, and you think you're missing something. Plus, it seems like everyone says so, and you don't want to look foolish and cheap. There was a time when you couldn't say that expensive wire is just a waste of money without being jumped on by audiophiles. Now you can say, "Monster Cable is a big rip-off" and not only will no one argue, but many posters will agree.
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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
I don't really think you have to go as high as $302/foot before you yell bullshit. The bullshit threshold is probably somewhere around $1/foot. But why do you think they give rapturous reviews to expensive interconnects? Perhaps because they will advertise in your magazine? Do you think makers of 16 gauge wire and 1.99 interconnects are really going to add to the magazine's bottom lines?

Since it's just superstition anyway, they can say anything they want. The readers just lap it up.

+1
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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
I don't really think you have to go as high as $302/foot before you yell bullshit. The bullshit threshold is probably somewhere around $1/foot. But why do you think they give rapturous reviews to expensive interconnects? Perhaps because they will advertise in your magazine? Do you think makers of 16 gauge wire and 1.99 interconnects are really going to add to the magazine's bottom lines?

Since it's just superstition anyway, they can say anything they want. The readers just lap it up.

+2
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it appears that stereophile's michael fremer has answered mr. randi's challenge. now we'll have to wait and see who backs out first and for what reason.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/calling-b...not-311034.php

kevin t

EDIT:

nevermind....pear cable pulled out. just once, i'd like to read the outcome of one of these things....just once!
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and and here's Randi's comments Quite a lot o accusations being passed about
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and stereophile's thread on this
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