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post #31 of 57
5/26/08 at 12:34pm

Re: Beetlejuice 2-Disc 20th Anniversary Special Edition?

I wouldn't care if it was just a new transfer with no new extras. The existing disc is like 11 years old and is one of the very first WB DVD releases so it looks awful now.

Now "Mars Attacks!" is the one that needs to be revisited.
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post #32 of 57
5/26/08 at 1:52pm

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Too bad Warner didn't put more effort in this. Well, at least in the bonus materials (I don't know what the video will look like). Actually, the old video transfer isn't that bad. The special effects sequences suffer from excessive grain (which is to be expected), but to my eyes (and I haven't watched this movie in a long, long time) that was the only problem. I don't think Warner will go all out with the transfer. It doesn't make sense that they would be willing to do a new high-definition tranfser, and then put some meager bonus material on it.
If the Mars Attacks! SE comes out (and that's a big 'if') I hope they will do better than this one.
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post #33 of 57
5/26/08 at 2:55pm

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Well I'd hardly call this a "deluxe" edition if the only extras are 3 episodes from the cartoon series. Geez, not even a theatrical trailer from the sounds of it. Regardless, I've never owned the previous release so this is an obvious purchase for me. Add the fact that I loved the cartoon as a kid and would like to see it again. It's just a shame that this is the best we're gonna get for this movie. A real shame.
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post #34 of 57
5/26/08 at 5:18pm

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Don't know if I believe the episodes will be the ONLY special features. Would think that they'd at least get a Burton commentary on there. Though if even that's all there's gonna be can't say that I'm too excited enough to actually get it, Burton doesn't do that great of commentaries from the one's I've listened to. Though I'll wait for something more official before crying bloody murder.
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post #35 of 57
5/27/08 at 9:35am

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Wow. VERY disappointed. I know this has been one of WB's most clamored for SEs. I would've expected a 2-disc SE treatment. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff they could have crammed on there.

I wasn't big on the cartoon.. it was ok as a kid, but eh. What a letdown.
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post #36 of 57
5/27/08 at 11:47am

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burton is probably too busy at the moment to do a commentary. isn't he working on a couple of movies?

Jacob
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post #37 of 57
5/27/08 at 12:09pm

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Good enough for me.

I used to love the cartoon and remember the title of the episode 'Skeletons In The Closet' but am dubious as to how it would stand up today. To my younger self it seemed like a trip, but again time does wonders to one's perception of things.
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post #38 of 57
5/27/08 at 1:18pm

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First The Road Warrior, then Poltergeist and now Beetlejuice is getting a lackluster treatment in terms of extras. I really hope more extras are announced. If not I'll still upgrade to the blu-ray version, but I won't rush out and buy it on release. I'll wait for a price drop.
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post #39 of 57
5/27/08 at 2:03pm

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Yikes...the old version has the trailer and an isolated score track. I think that puts it about even with this one for extra material! I really hope there's more to this. The skimpy 'Poltergeist' reissue I could sort of rationalize, but c'mon!
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post #40 of 57
5/27/08 at 2:18pm

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Originally Posted by TheBat
burton is probably too busy at the moment to do a commentary. isn't he working on a couple of movies?

Even if Burton's unavailable, it's not like Geena Davis and Michael Keaton don't have plenty of time. Or Winona Ryder, Catherine O'Hara and Jeffrey Jones for that matter.

Heck, Dick Cavett was in the film -- hire him to conduct some interviews and Warners could do four disc set.
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post #41 of 57
5/27/08 at 2:33pm

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Theres vintage featurettes they could have thrown on just to fill up space. Plus, the isolated score from the previous release. And I'm pretty sure, given the long amount of time this has been "in development" that they could have found 30 minutes to interview Burton about the film. He's been doing the publicity rounds for Sweeny Todd, they could have just sat him down while on the publicity tour.
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post #42 of 57
5/27/08 at 2:49pm

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Even "Poltergeist" with its terrible extras was more than worth the double-dip based on the transfer alone. The same goes for Universal's awful "Fletch" re-release.

This is an old DVD in desperate need of a new transfer. Everything else is just gravy.
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post #43 of 57
5/27/08 at 5:29pm

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Originally Posted by Patrick H.
Yikes...the old version has the trailer and an isolated score track. I think that puts it about even with this one for extra material! I really hope there's more to this. The skimpy 'Poltergeist' reissue I could sort of rationalize, but c'mon!

Surely three half-hour television episodes beats out a theatrical trailer...

With all of Warners efforts and investments this year, I just don't think these films particularly warrant much supplements. They are fun popcorn movies but nothing more and the idea that commentaries and extensive documentaries are expected on every single release is silly and unrealistic. Studios have budgets and certainly need to make sacrifices in order to meet consumer demand. They could have just as easily put this off to another calendar year, but instead opted to squeeze it in undoubtedly resulting from it's long requested history. Now we have it and with a brand new transfer and affordable price tag to match. That's all I could ask for!
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post #44 of 57
5/27/08 at 5:38pm

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Also with the current state of the home video industry, Warners knows that it will sell far more copies for a simple $15 priced release than it would had the company invested thousands more into producing supplements. This is the sort of film that many people already own (a budget bin staple!) and consumers are unlikely to rush out for multiple editions at high cost. The type of releases that attract such crowds nowadays are blockbuster cult films like 300. Sales have died down and this is the perfect way to get the title out there in a new and improved transfer without detracting from the studio's budget to restore and release other films, many of which really do merit supplemental context!
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post #45 of 57
5/27/08 at 5:54pm

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BEETLEJUICE 20TH ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION (WARNER) 8-12 9-16 DVD $19.96, BD $34.99
Comedy: Tim Burton’s 1988 film about deceased ghosts (Alec Baldwin, Geena Davis) and a bio-exorcist (Michael Keaton) is remastered. Bonuses: cartoons; BD also has soundtrack CD.

just got this in a notice from video business
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post #46 of 57
5/27/08 at 6:03pm

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Originally Posted by TonyD
BD also has soundtrack CD.

Well, at least that helps justify a 75% increase in SRP.

Sorta...
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post #47 of 57
5/27/08 at 7:17pm

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[quote=MarcoBiscotti]Surely three half-hour television episodes beats out a theatrical trailer...[quote]

Only if you like the TV series. As far as I'm concerned, the second disc might as well be a coaster.

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With all of Warners efforts and investments this year, I just don't think these films particularly warrant much supplements. They are fun popcorn movies but nothing more and the idea that commentaries and extensive documentaries

That's your opinion. Lots of us disagree. Note that this is one film that people ask about every year in the Warner chat -- they want a genuine special edition.
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post #48 of 57
5/28/08 at 4:09am

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Not to sound pretentious... but this is not a movie that is "historically" significant or groundbreaking in any way. Not that a film needs to be in order to necessitate extra features! I just can't imagine what sort of bonus material would be of such great interest that anybody is missing out on here. Burton commentaries are the worst, I'm sure most would agree. Perhaps a featurette on the production and set design? I just don't really see what more there is to be said that the film itself doesn't speak. If it were part of Warners classics cannon, it probably would have a short cartoon, comedy and newsreel tacked on from relevant years and that's it. Again, with so much product out there that's marketed more directly to specific groups (box sets, tv shows, classics, etc) I'd rather see these singles issued with a lower msrp and sharp transfer and have them shot out more frequently.
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post #49 of 57
5/28/08 at 7:07pm

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It's possible the specs could change, but as of right now, that's what the DVD will include - my official press release only lists those three TV episodes...
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post #50 of 57
5/28/08 at 7:12pm

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I'd rather just get the original DVD, I saw it selling for $4 today.
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post #51 of 57
5/28/08 at 7:39pm

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Originally Posted by mike kaminski
I'd rather just get the original DVD, I saw it selling for $4 today.
I think you'd do better to spend an extra $10 and get what will have to be a significantly better transfer.
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post #52 of 57
5/28/08 at 8:00pm

Re: Beetlejuice 2-Disc 20th Anniversary Special Edition?

Even though I don't care much for the movie (it's never really clicked with me), I still wouldn't mind finding out more about the production. How did a movie as fantastical as this one get dreamed up? And how did Burton transition from Pee-Wee to this? Any interesting behind the stories, etc.? So I think extras are certainly welcome, especially for a movie that seems to have stood the test of time (it's still shown rather regularly on TV and people still love it).
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post #53 of 57
5/28/08 at 9:43pm

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Originally Posted by MarcoBiscotti
With all of Warners efforts and investments this year

How much did Speed Racer cost? Putting decent supplementary material on the DVD would cost maybe 0.001% of that.
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post #54 of 57
5/29/08 at 7:32pm

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I've been waiting for a better release of this for a long while, and like Poltergeist, extras or no I'm buying.
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post #55 of 57
5/29/08 at 9:21pm

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I agree that this isn't by any means an "important" or "groundbreaking" film, but come on. When you hear the words "DELUXE EDITION" in regards to a DVD, what does one expect?? I would certainly think a "deluxe edition" would include more than 3 cartoon episodes. Perhaps a featurette or 2, a commentary, art gallery, trailer, etc. Include all of the above, and to me that would warrant a DVD to be called "deluxe". Perhaps the word means different things to different people, but when I see a DVD on a shelf labeled as a 'Deluxe Edition', I expect it to be packed to the tits with bonus material. Regardless, as I stated in an earlier post, I never got around to getting the previous release, so this is an obvious purchase. I just think the term "deluxe edition" is misleading given the content.
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post #56 of 57
5/30/08 at 11:39am

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Originally Posted by Ray H
Even though I don't care much for the movie (it's never really clicked with me), I still wouldn't mind finding out more about the production.

Indeed, it is quite an interesting film, in that many of the special effects sequences were designed to be shot in-camera (ie: on-set, without post-production work), which is quite an unusual approach (and one that demands am unusual degree of ingenuity).

The film also features several sequences of stop-motion animation, an old-fashioned technique that has many admirers (and, of course, one that Burton would use extensively later on, with The Nightmare Before Christmas and The Corpse Bride).

Several scenes, including an alternate-reality sequence where Baldwin's character is menaced by giant clockwork-like gears, and a more elaborate version of the sandworm sequence, were shot, but not used (there were photo's from both scenes in the Batman issue of Cinefantastique magazine). It would be nice to see those, right??
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post #57 of 57
7/1/08 at 3:29pm

Re: Beetlejuice 2-Disc 20th Anniversary Special Edition?

for anyone that is interested.. universal HD is going to be playing beetlejuice.

Jacob

Universal HD - Schedule
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