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post #451 of 517
4/25/08 at 9:44am

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Originally Posted by Jason_V
Josh got me to remember something I noticed. When everything comes out of Chloe's purse-at the Ace of Clubs, I think-there's a pack of (you guessed it) Stride gum front and center. Big old S sitting on a rectangular box.

Yeah, I noticed that too. I'm pretty sure I've seen it pop up at some point in at least one other episode since that awful "Hero" episode. But that's the reality of television: product placement.

It's just unfortunate that they chose to devote an entire episode to chewing gum. I would have been embarrassed to have my name on that episode if I was part of the cast or crew. I honestly can't think of a worse episode of Smallville in the seven years it's been on. There probably is one, but I've thankfully forgotten it.
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post #452 of 517
4/25/08 at 1:18pm

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Major spoiler about the finale from the CW May sweeps write up had this big tidbit....

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In the finale, Lex discovers Clark's secret. And Lionel's not around to make him forget this time...


From KryptonSite: Your Source For "Smallville" News And Information
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post #453 of 517
4/25/08 at 1:21pm

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Originally Posted by todd s
Major spoiler about the finale from the CW May sweeps write up had this big tidbit....

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If Superman history is to be maintained, a LOT of people are going to need memory wipes. Lois, Clark, Jimmy, Lex, Martha. There's going to be a rest button at some point for Lex to forget. There HAS to be.
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post #454 of 517
4/25/08 at 2:56pm

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Not necessarily in Lex's case, Jason, they could work it to where (i'll spoilerize since it will elude to others what we're talking about) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Lex is so angry and hell bent on Clark/Superman's destruction that he will keep that info to himself as his arrogance won't allow him to allow others to know as they might try to steal the revenge that he feels is rightfully his and his alone.
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post #455 of 517
4/25/08 at 3:11pm

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^ More spoiler alluding...

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If Superman and Lex become mortal enemies as we see in Supes II and IV, then he would know Clark is a traveler. Coupled with what he knows Superman can do, I'd think he would connect the dots. And he doesn't necessarily need to share it with anyone...just use the information to his advantage. After all, Martha has a political career, Jimmy and Lois are still around. He could get to Clark/Supes...


Ah well, that's why we speculate, right?
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post #456 of 517
5/1/08 at 7:47pm
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That was much better than the "reset button" premise suggested. Probably the second best of the year. Way to go on the direction, Clark!
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post #457 of 517
5/1/08 at 7:51pm

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just fifnshed this ep.
except for the previous ep this season has been a home run.

i thought the alt version was very good.
lex with the glove on, i guess from the kryptonite cancer beginning to appear.
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post #458 of 517
5/1/08 at 8:38pm

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I can understand Lex shooting Clark, and Clark being hit because he didn't expect it, but you think Kara would have super sped and dodged the bullet.
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post #459 of 517
5/1/08 at 10:57pm

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Originally Posted by Greg_S_H
That was much better than the "reset button" premise suggested. Probably the second best of the year. Way to go on the direction, Clark!
Shit, so I should have actually bothered to watch?
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post #460 of 517
5/1/08 at 11:01pm

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I could barely make it through tonight's "Lost" episode on my DVR, but tonight's Smallville episode via DVR kept my attention all the way through. It was just fun to see all these nods to the Superman mythos, plus planting the seeds of Clark and Lois, even if Clark is still on the lookout for a cure for Lana.
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post #461 of 517
5/2/08 at 5:34am

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Somehow Kara and Clark don't know the first rule of killing the villain: he ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS comes back at least once, if not twice or three times. You really need to stab, decapitate, electrocute, stone and tear apart a body before you be "sure" the baddie isn't coming back.

Otherwise, very good episode.
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post #462 of 517
5/2/08 at 5:47am

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I didn't get the Lex glove thing. It wasn't explained in the episode, so I figured maybe it was a nod to the comic fans. It didn't work for me for Clark to have eyes for anyone but Lana, especially considering Lana's condition, and the fact that it was brought on via her association with him.

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I realize Kristen may be leaving so they need to get Lana off the show and...


If the show is going with the traditional, Clark gets with Lois at some point, but I just felt that particular happening was timed wrong (even though it was mostly subtle).

I also wondered by neither kryptonian dodged the krypto-bullets, but just went with it, especially since I didn't know the rules of the alternate timeline at that point.

I get that screwing around with the past has consequences too pervasive to risk, but when you're talking your whole planet destroyed along with your family, I felt the possibility of undoing that was a bit underacted. Even after seeing what things could be like if he'd never existed, I'd still think anyone who has lost a loved family member would still have a moment of, "Maybe if I do it this way," before ultimately deciding against it.

It's a shame that since Clark went all the way there, he didn't get to see more of his planet. On the other hand, maybe he did and we just didn't get to see it. I'd guess the special effects would have been costly, but it also could have been a really special moment for Kal-El.
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post #463 of 517
5/2/08 at 9:15am

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post #464 of 517
5/2/08 at 9:25am

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On Lex's glove, in the first season, there was a woman who allowed you to see your future when you touched her. Lex touched her and saw his future as president of the United States, standing amid destruction, wearing a single black glove....
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post #465 of 517
5/2/08 at 11:11am

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It was a pretty good episode for the most part. I too enjoyed the various nods to the mythos.

The one thing that bothered me the most was the fact that when Clark gets to Krypton, where are his parents? Nowhere to be seen in the most important part of the origin story. Essentially, the origin has now been rewritten as it is Clark and Kara who send Kal-El off.

It would have been cool to see Clark meet his true parents.
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post #466 of 517
5/2/08 at 11:22am

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It would have been cool to see Clark meet his true parents.

Which would have seemed easy to do as it would have changed nothing important. Brainiac would simply have had more people to get through to try to destroy Clark. That insertion would have essentially changed nothing in the mythos... it would have just been something we never saw before. But it would have been a great moment for future Clark to meet past mom and dad. That's why (for me), it was an OK Smallville episode, but it could have been meatier and better.
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post #467 of 517
5/2/08 at 11:25am

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Did anyone else notice that the shots of the nucular missels being launched and striking all over the globe was just footage from Terminator 3 lol? It was the same footage they used in that season 2 episode that Stephen mentioned.

I found it funny how Lex, even though he was supposed to be president, merely slapped a presidential seal on the floor of his office instead of bothering to move into the White House lol.
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post #468 of 517
5/2/08 at 11:38am

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
it could have been meatier and better.

Really, though, isn't that the story of Smallville in a nutshell? Some moments of brilliance coupled with plot resolutions happening before the last commercial break? Even the great episodes never really qualifying as "great television" in the mold of ER, LA Law or Lost? The plot just gets by without really digging into the story and showing true consequences of actions?

It's always been (and always will be) Superman-Lite.
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post #469 of 517
5/2/08 at 12:08pm

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Some moments of brilliance coupled with plot resolutions happening before the last commercial break?
I did find it annoying that things happen so quickly and easily. Need Clark to go to Krypton? Boom, he's there, don't bother to show how. Need to pull the "It's a Wonderful Life" scenario on Clark to get him to go to Krypton? Just pull out your good old Swiss Army Knife of deus ex machinas (Jor-el). The absence of Kal-el's parents bothered me as well.
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post #470 of 517
5/2/08 at 12:53pm

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What I was wondering about was where was Jor-El and Lara when adult Clark placed his infant self inside the ship? Afterall it was they who placed him in there yet they were nowhere to be found.

I also didn't like that Clark was transported to Krypton via the fortress when it would have been more dramatic if he had flown there the same way that Kara and Brainiac did through the black hole.

So let me get this straight because now i'm confused is Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Kristen actually leaving the show completely or is she still slated to show up in some eps next season?
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post #471 of 517
5/5/08 at 7:03am

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I get so frustrated with this show...

This 1 episode should be an arc of 3 episodes...while doing that you would have time to flesh out the parents on Krypton - kill (or neutralize) Braniac...Clark could see some of Krypton...more time with Lex as President...ugh...so much wasted...

Why the need to rush it all in 1 episode!?!?!?!

They did this with Zod and the Phantom Zone episode and I just don't get it...

Plenty of story to go around but they feel the need to squeeze it all into a tuna can...
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post #472 of 517
5/5/08 at 9:14pm

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Black glove - in the comics, Lex makes a kryptonite ring, but it poisons his hand and he loses the hand, usually wearing a black glove over his fake hand. However, by the time he became president, he had already faked his own death, savaged his brain and eyes to have a cloned body be formed around him, posed as his own Australian son for a while, only to be infected by a clone virus, and then came back to life with some deal with the devil, I think. Short version, he had his real hand as President.

As for Lana,
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she's done. Kristen is off filming a movie in Bangkok, and might be back for some episodes next season, but nothing is really set. Personally, I think she needs to come back for a couple of episodes, to provide closure for their relationship and friendship, because this is not the motivation that Clark needs to be Superman.
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post #473 of 517
5/5/08 at 9:35pm

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Actually, I was thinking as I watched, if they left this timeline, that would be a good way to get back to the mythos as we know it, without everyone knowing Clark or so much about him. Also, he would have been fine with not interacting anymore with Chloe or Lana, thereby opening the future relationship with Lois.
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post #474 of 517
5/5/08 at 9:41pm

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i agree with that idea, john.
the timeline on that ep was pretty close to a good portion of what was going on in the comics during the last 20 years or so.
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post #475 of 517
5/7/08 at 9:37am

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Black glove - in the comics, Lex makes a kryptonite ring, but it poisons his hand and he loses the hand, usually wearing a black glove over his fake hand. However, by the time he became president, he had already faked his own death, savaged his brain and eyes to have a cloned body be formed around him, posed as his own Australian son for a while, only to be infected by a clone virus, and then came back to life with some deal with the devil, I think. Short version, he had his real hand as President.

I don't think I'll ever make fun of Smallville again.
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post #476 of 517
5/8/08 at 6:18pm
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So, inside the mantle was a Magic 8 Ball.

"Can I control the Traveller?"

"Signs point to Yes."
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post #477 of 517
5/8/08 at 6:33pm

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I don't think I like what this story is doing, it's making things far too complicated with all these factions of people knowing about Clark, waiting for him, worshiping him etc...

Why can't it be just as simple as he comes, learns and becomes Superman without the enire universe being involved?

But at least we Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
get to see a cool showdown in the fortress next week between Lex and Clark.
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post #478 of 517
5/8/08 at 6:57pm

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Tonight's episode was just oddly written. Wasn't horrible, but wasn't all that good, either. At least there's just the season finale to put this season to rest.
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post #479 of 517
5/9/08 at 5:52am

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
Tonight's episode was just oddly written. Wasn't horrible, but wasn't all that good, either. At least there's just the season finale to put this season to rest.
With Millar and Gough leaving after this season, maybe we won't get a cliff-hanger this time around.

Neil
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post #480 of 517
5/9/08 at 10:30am

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The news for next season might get worse according to Ausiello Scoop: Allison Mack Leaving Smallville? - Ausiello Report | TVGuide.com
Allison Mack's agents appear to trying get a better deal and the studio isn't budging at the moment.

Neil
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