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post #421 of 517
4/17/08 at 6:14pm

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Still think that Lex can't get any nastier, Patrick?

I'm still reeling from this episode, what a freakin' dark and twisted ride! The old Lex is dead, he's deader than dead, he's well, a lot dead.

Sorry if i'm not articulate right now but I just can't get over how awesome this episode was, I always knew that someday Lionel would get it at the hands of his son but it still didn't prepare me for how it went down. Michael Rosenbaum made me do something that I have never done with any past Lex...he made me very afraid of him!

I don't even think Anakin finally becoming Darth Vader had this sort of impact on me, looking into Lex's eyes you could see nothing but hate, sick, perverse and unbridled hate.

I'm going to go watch this one again.
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post #422 of 517
4/17/08 at 6:36pm

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Next season: Touched by a Kryptonian.


They should put in the part where Lex throws his good conscience/kid into the fire into the opening credits montage.
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post #423 of 517
4/17/08 at 9:11pm

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"no one will even remember your name"
and with a blink of the eye, .....
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post #424 of 517
4/17/08 at 9:44pm

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OK, so, in the Boston area, something was wicked wrong with the CW and the sound kept cutting in and out (no sound for the first 12 minutes, missing a few more somewhere in the middle, and out of sync for the second half) -- best episode of the year, and they destroy the broadcast.

Despite all of that, I was incredibly moved.

I hope I get a chance to see it again sometime with some audio. Turns out, sound is important. Who woulda thunk it?

(Seething with Lex-like rage...)
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post #425 of 517
4/17/08 at 9:56pm
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Hey, other than Smallville, I didn't get anything tonight. Fifth Grader and Lyrics were both off because of weather reporting, and I flipped around and saw that every network show was lost because of it.
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post #426 of 517
4/18/08 at 5:51am

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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
I'm still reeling from this episode, what a freakin' dark and twisted ride! The old Lex is dead, he's deader than dead, he's well, a lot dead.

And then he kills Gina before she can confirm to him that Clark is The Traveler.
And we didn't get to see a "D'oh!" scene when he hears her message. Of course, Lex really has to know Clark is the Traveler, but ...

Neil
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post #427 of 517
4/18/08 at 8:05am

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That would have been fuuny, to have Lex playback his messages and see him slap his own forehead with his palm lol.

So much was laid to rest last night, Lex's goodness, he and Clark's friendship, Lionel and Gina. Rosenbaum, IMHO, deserves an Emmy nod for this episode, but we all know that will never happen.

Eat your evil hearts out Hackman and Spacy, you both have zip on Rosenbaum's Lex.
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post #428 of 517
4/18/08 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by NeilO
And then he kills Gina before she can confirm to him that Clark is The Traveler.
And we didn't get to see a "D'oh!" scene when he hears her message. Of course, Lex really has to know Clark is the Traveler, but ...

Wait, that was Lex who killed Gina? I thought it was some dude we didn't know. A dude with hair. I wish I hadn't deleted my recording now.
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post #429 of 517
4/18/08 at 10:57am

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Wait, that was Lex who killed Gina? I thought it was some dude we didn't know. A dude with hair.
The phrase "Lex killed someone" doesn't have to mean "Lex killed someone with his own hands". If an assassin working for Lex kills in accordance with his orders, it's functionally identical.
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post #430 of 517
4/18/08 at 11:02am

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Wasn't it the same guy who killed the Swann girl?
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post #431 of 517
4/18/08 at 11:21am

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Originally Posted by Greg_S_H
Wait, that was Lex who killed Gina? I thought it was some dude we didn't know. A dude with hair. I wish I hadn't deleted my recording now.


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post #432 of 517
4/18/08 at 12:03pm
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I guess I didn't make the leap that Lex hired someone. I thought it was some mysterious dude, possibly the new vessel of Jor-El. Hell if I know.
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post #433 of 517
4/18/08 at 1:12pm

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I actually didn't make the connection that it was one of Lex's guys who killed her, the thought that popped in my head when it happened was that it was someone who worked for Lionel and was protecting the Travlers secret.

But Lex knowing that Gina knew I knew that he knew that he had to keep her from knowing what she knew, ya know.
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post #434 of 517
4/18/08 at 1:53pm

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Originally Posted by Stephen Orr
Wasn't it the same guy who killed the Swann girl?
Right, that's what I thought and why I assumed that Lex ordered the hit. He knew that she knew he killed Lionel and so had to get rid of her. Plus she had been touching him - can't have that.

Neil
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post #435 of 517
4/18/08 at 3:57pm

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come on it was so obvious.
Lex just killed his Father and the woman kept touching him and he kept giving her the stink eye.
plus it was telegraphed just by the way she kept saying we did it and
her implying she knows what lex did.
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post #436 of 517
4/19/08 at 12:23pm

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Sad that they killed the last remaining cast member over 50. So Jonathan, Martha and now Lionel are gone. Now we are left with the whiney crowd.
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post #437 of 517
4/19/08 at 1:40pm

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Man, this show just can do no right with some people.

It makes no differnece that it was an incredible episode that helped propel things foreward? All some are capable of seeing is the negative.
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post #438 of 517
4/20/08 at 7:48am

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I just watched this last night and all I can say is... Wow! What an AWESOME episode!

The "descent" of Lex was everything I hoped it would be and more!

It is the increasingly rare brilliant episode like this that keeps me coming back week after week. It's hard to fathom that this is the same show that only a handful of weeks ago sunk to an all-time low (IMHO) with an episode about Kryptonite gum!

Is it just me or does anyone else think that this episode could have been setting the stage for a series finale. I wonder if we'll eventually learn that Millar/Gough really wanted to wrap things up this season, but the ratings-starved CW said no, and that's what led to their decision to exit...
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post #439 of 517
4/22/08 at 7:38am

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Is it just me or does anyone else think that this episode could have been setting the stage for a series finale.

When the strike began, the producers of Smallville said they weren't going to get hit as heavy as everyone else, because they had scripts up to episode 16, and that if needbe, that 16th episode could serve as a season finale. "Descent" was episode 16, and if the writers had never come home, it would have worked pretty well in that capacity.

The last three episodes have been great, with the most recent being outstanding. I hope they can keep it up for the last few weeks, although I suspect there will be at least one "filler" episode in there as it seems like they never air too many of the really great episodes in a row.
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post #440 of 517
4/22/08 at 9:18pm

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They only had 15 shows pre-strike. Veritas was the potential season finale. M/G said they went in and raised the cliff on that one.
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post #441 of 517
4/23/08 at 6:46am

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Originally Posted by Chip_HT
They only had 15 shows pre-strike. Veritas was the potential season finale. M/G said they went in and raised the cliff on that one.

I read sixteen, but either way, Veritas or Descent would have been a pretty good season finale if they had been forced to go that way. I'm glad there are a few more left.
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post #442 of 517
4/24/08 at 5:59pm

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Okay, seriously, what the hell was with 00 Olsen lol?
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post #443 of 517
4/24/08 at 6:09pm

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Oh dear lord. A nearly disposable episode on the heels of probably the best of the last two years. That was a complete and utter disappointment. Everything from Super Woman Version 2 (following Gina last week) to Lex taking his blessed sweet time getting to Zurich, Jimmy Bond and the anti-climax of what was in the box.

But damn, as the first eppy I'm watching in true HD...it sure did look nice.
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post #444 of 517
4/24/08 at 6:14pm

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"The names Bond...Jimmy Bond."

I'll be damned if that don't sound funny.
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post #445 of 517
4/24/08 at 6:25pm

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This episode was dopey as hell.
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post #446 of 517
4/24/08 at 6:57pm

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But it did clear a few things up. Like why Clark was imprisoned in the fortress a few months back.
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post #447 of 517
4/24/08 at 7:49pm
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Pretty silly, meaningless A story. I find it hard to believe that having Jimmy in his back pocket would be worth more than seeing Chloe in prison for Lex. He could get his hooks in Jimmy in any number of ways.

Not sure the point of showing Lex having trouble getting to Zurich. Nothing came of it, and the next time we saw him, there he was in Zurich. I guess the only point would be in conjunction with his success in calling off a federal terrorism investigation, showing that he is already a very powerful man.

At least the ending was interesting. I think next week's may be a snoozer as well:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
It's apparently a reset button/"this is what things would be like without Clark" episode


But, as usual, we're building to what could be an explosive season finale. I hope they set up the exit of Lex and whoever else won't be back next year.
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post #448 of 517
4/25/08 at 5:25am

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Originally Posted by Jason_V
the anti-climax of what was in the box.

But damn, as the first eppy I'm watching in true HD...it sure did look nice.
I wish they spent more time with Lex looking at the "empty" box. It would have been nice to have seen him frustrated for a few minutes.

Yes, the HD does look quite nice.

Neil
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post #449 of 517
4/25/08 at 6:40am

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I liked the episode. It wasn't as good as last week's, of course, but I can't expect every episode of the show to be a home run. The stuff with Chloe and Jimmy was fun if not terribly deep, and the Clark/Lex stuff that bookended the stuff kept the storyline going. (One of my complaints about the show in the past, much like the X-Files, would be that they'd have a fantastic episode that would advance an ongoing plot, and then they'd go back to monster of the week for three months in a row. I don't expect every episode to be driven by a season or series long story arc, but it's nice when a regular "episode of the week" at least acknowledges its place within the bigger picture.)

Did anyone notice in the preview for next week's that they had some shots of the alternate (?) present with Lex standing in the White House, much like Lex or Clark's nightmare/vision from an episode in the first season? If they're actually going back and following up on seeds planted that early on, kudos to them. As far as I'm concerned, this show has been on a roll - four quality episodes back to back, one of which was phenomenal and at least one other was very very good. For a show like Smallville, where I generally expect two or three good episodes for year, a lot of filler, and a few stinkers, this year has been pretty satisfying for me.
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post #450 of 517
4/25/08 at 6:46am

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Josh got me to remember something I noticed. When everything comes out of Chloe's purse-at the Ace of Clubs, I think-there's a pack of (you guessed it) Stride gum front and center. Big old S sitting on a rectangular box.
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