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Michael Scott's "riff" on the "Die Hard" movies and John McClane was excellent.

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Finally got to watch it this weekend. Another great one. Yes this one was more sentimental as well, but the show handles it well. My only really complaint so far is the basket episode and how they went back to the former client after sinking the car. That was painful to watch and wasn't needed.
post #93 of 302

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I loved the style of the Money episode.
very endearing.

I loved how the telemarketing job of Michael's was like a secondary office, with just as normal or abnormal people working there.
I'd like to see more of them down the road again.

I also loved how Dwight got the phone call for his bed and breakfast and he changed into a different person just to take their reservation.

Ryan seems very power hungry

my favorite Michael moment in this episode is when he realized he caled Stanley, and then used different voices and acts to make it not seem like it was him calling.
post #94 of 302

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Brent M:

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Unfortunately I can't agree. I'm worried that The Office is going to end up like Friends, a show that was great for a couple of seasons and then became so focused on the characters' silly relationships that it ceased to be funny. I mean we've got Michael/Jan, Jim/Pam, Angela/Dwight, Angela/Andy, Kelly/Ryan, Kelly/Darrell and on and on it goes. It's a bit much IMHO and this week's episode was the first time I've felt like the show was heading in a really bad direction. Hopefully the Dwight/Angela storyline is done for good now and Dwight's demarcation line at the end of the episode was a good sign that he might go back to being like his character from the first couple seasons(fingers crossed).

I am not enjoying the 'romantic relationship' emphasis on The Office at all. I tolerate it, because there is still enough skewering of office life and certain corporate cliches in recent episodes (Ryan's segments come to mind) that the show retains enough of an edge. However, if Creed and Meredith start dating I'm going to stop watching. Enough is enough.

I'd like to see the show continue to bounce the characters off situations rather than romantic relationships with one another. In fact, that's my worst fear about the show, that it might head into that territory. The suits at NBC, based on their promos, would probably love for the series to go soft and start spoon feeding us the romance element.

JohnS:

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my favorite Michael moment in this episode is when he realized he caled Stanley, and then used different voices and acts to make it not seem like it was him calling.

I may be mistaken, but I think the second fake voice he used was Yoda.
post #95 of 302

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I, too, (for one) feel that the "coupling" aspect could go a little too far. In the original show, and the first few seasons of the American version, there was no such pairings-off with the cast. Angela and Jan, two of the "strongest" female personalities on the show, are now mostly seen through their relationships (on the rocks or not), and that's troublesome.

People make the "Friends" comparisons a lot and that's a little too harsh I think, but the general idea is well-taken - "pairing off" your ensemble is NEVER a good idea. That's why I love Creed, Stanley, Andy (unless they DO pair him off), and Toby. (Meredith has been funnier lately, but I still find she's written as a two-note character - "nymphomaniac alcoholic" - you can only take that so far)

One of my favorite scenes from "Money" involved Stanley speaking through the telephone intercom, "sitting in my sweat pants, drinking red wine and watching my mystery stories." So perfect.

Now that I'm not as distracted by the cameras following the cast outside of the office -- I didn't care for "The Initiation" last season for that very reason -- I'm willing to concede that I found Dwight's beet-wine making, table-constructing, manure-spreading clips hilarious. And Mose, as you attentive fans already know, is played by Michael Schur, who is a lead writer and producer for the show.
post #96 of 302

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I think one thing that will help the show along is the return to regular half hour episodes. This will allow the crew to cut out the fat and make storylines more cohesive.
post #97 of 302

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I agree. This show needs to get back to 30 minutes - fast.
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I haven't had a problem with the show running an hour but I think the show would work best at 40 or 45 minutes (which, of course, isn't possible). Then you'd get the good stuff that they had to delete for time but they wouldn't have too much extra stuff either.
post #99 of 302

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They actually did have a few "super sized" 40-45 min. episodes last season and I thought those worked better than the hour long shows this year. I'm interested to see what happens when they go back to the regular half hour format.
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I agree that 30 non-commercial minutes is the ideal length - 20 seems too short, 45 can drag a bit, but I strongly disagree with any insinuation that these hour-long episodes are in any way affecting the quality of the show. These early four episodes have provided a much richer story foundation for the rest of the season.
post #101 of 302

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Oh D! Oh D! Oh D!

OMG I'm going to have nightmares now!!!

That was a great commercial BTW.
post #102 of 302

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Break me off a piece of that:
a) Applesauce
b) Chrysler car
c) Football cream
d) Lumber tar
e) Snickers Bar
f) Grey Poupon
g) Claude van Damme
h) Hair for men
i) Nutrasweet
j) Fancy Feast

Dunder Mifflin sells:
a) Mufflers
b) Muffins
c) Mittens

DWIGT: Second Life is not a game. It is a multi-user virtual environment. It doesn't have points or scores, it doesn't have winners or losers.
JIM: Oh, it has losers.

MICHAEL: I just have a small problem.
RYAN: I told you not to call about small problems.
MICHAEL: Yeah, well, when I call about big problems you don't like that either, so make up your mind kiddo.

Kevin's Kool-Aid Man face!

MEREDITH: I'm excited about doing the ad, but I'm not really used to doing videos with so many people around.

I liked Darryl's jingles.

"Oh, D!" ("D" for Andy).

The "Real" Dunder Mifflin commercial (Michael Scott Director's Cut) was way better than the Corporate crap.

Michael offered to shoot the Corporate commercial on his dime if they didn't like his attempt, and at the end he bought a round of drinks for everyone in the bar. Guess he hasn't learned his money lessons from last week...
post #103 of 302

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Dunder Mifflin sells:
a) Mufflers
b) Muffins
c) Mittens


Beautiful. I finally find out that I'm not the only one who thinks the place sounds like a muffler shop.

The "real" commercial at the end just blew away the corporate version. It's a shame that "corporate" didn't even applaud the effort. How many of us were watching through our fingers in anticipation of something completely embarassing?
post #104 of 302

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I completely agree about the show working best at 40 min. (with commercials). Most of the deleted scenes on the dvd adds so much more to the storylines. I half expected to see Andy's nipples bleeding again while doing his running for the ad. The previews showed everyone cheering and Michael with a big smile on his face so I knew the video was going to be good.
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Stanley wearing the prisoner jumpsuit was a true laugh out loud moment.
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DWIGT: Second Life is not a game. It is a multi-user virtual environment. It doesn't have points or scores, it doesn't have winners or losers.
JIM: Oh, it has losers.
I loved that exchange. I also found Philly Jim's guitar funny.

I know almost nothing about online games but I'm guessing that Second Life is a real game.
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Stanley wearing the prisoner jumpsuit was a true laugh out loud moment.

I was like, "Oh no, Michael did not just put Stanley in a prison jumpsuit for this ad?" and then busted out a laugh or two. Good stuff.
post #108 of 302

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Originally Posted by TravisR
I know almost nothing about online games but I'm guessing that Second Life is a real game.


Second Life is not a game. It is a multi-user virtual environment. It doesn't have points or scores, it doesn't have winners or losers.

Oh, wait a minute...
post #109 of 302

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This shouldn't be a surprise to me any more, but TripAdvisor does indeed have a page for Schrute Farms:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...nsylvania.html

Has anyone seen Dwight or Jim wandering around Second Life?

Edit: I should have figured earlier, but the photos posted at TripAdvisor were a contest on the Dunder Mifflin Infinity website.
post #110 of 302

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Would have been funny if at some point in the show they had Andy eating a Kit-Kat bar.
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I was like, "Oh no, Michael did not just put Stanley in a prison jumpsuit for this ad?" and then busted out a laugh or two. Good stuff.
The ad was full of Michael's stereotypes, but if you notice, each time someone was showcased in Michael's ad that person was smiling in the cut-away to the bar. I liked his version a lot better, too. (And thought Daryll made a nice jingle too) The only part that was ridiculous was "limitless paper for a paperless world" which is poetic from the personal aspect but too associated with the "paperless office" that is killing Dunder Mifflin's business.
post #112 of 302

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hillarious episode
post #113 of 302

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Finally got around to watching last week's episode and I thought it was pretty sub par. There were some good moments, but overall I just didn't think it was very funny. Also, I was hoping that the Dwight/Angela storyline had finally been put to rest in the last hour long episode, but apparently it's going to drag out all season. Ugh.
post #114 of 302

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Tonight was pretty hilarious IMHO. I just absolutely lost it when Dwigt started peeing in the can.

Their bumbling infiltration of Utica had me on the floor!

"We will burn Utica to the ground!"

LOL
post #115 of 302

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I think I mainly laughed at Dwigt spraying in the can and cutting his pecker on the lip of the can. Other than that, this episode was a bit flat to me, even with Whedon at the directorial helm. I just think the writing wasn't funny enough.
post #116 of 302

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Along with being windows to the soul, we learn that eyes are also the groin of the head.

I like Karen, but I was quite amused when she got de-smugged by Jim.
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The best comedy on television continues to entertain.

Mindy Kaling, hilarious as Kelly, did some great writing in the first season. However, she also wrote my least favorite episode of Season 3 ("Diwali") ... I feel she occasionally emphasizes broader characterizations over smaller moments (though she writes both). I feel that she was giving us caricatures of these characters tonight: "wouldn't it be funny if [Dwight, Michael] went on a wacky trip?" Her episodes are very "extroverted".

I laughed out loud, as usual, but the more ridiculous the characters become, the less I "buy" them as characters, and (thus) the less funny it all is. It's a tough balance the writers must strike and I'm not sure MK is always successful at that balance in her episodes.

The best "small" scene to me was in the kitchen as the "club" tried to concentrate over Phyllis' microwave beeping noises. I just about lost it.

I also felt the dialogue between Jim and Karen in the office was a little "forced"... it was just too manufactured. It doesn't seem like a moment that would have existed with cameras hanging over their shoulders. Jim's excuse for leaving and Karen's rhetorical questions seemed so "written out".

Best Parts:

- Jim's "hiding" scene was very well-directed - you never forget the camera was there in the car
- Michael's continued hatred of Toby, Toby in a bow-tie, Toby taking endless crap from Michael, again.
- A stroke of brilliance to make Michael and Dwight's "infiltration" off-screen, heard only through walkie-talkies. It was SO much funnier that way and probably saved this scene of the episode for me.
- Tacky Andy trying to infiltrate the fancy club... as we knew he would.
- Dwight keeping on the moustache after being caught. OK, so I thought the moustaches were so stupid they were funny, even if it DID seem like they were about to send everyone in fast-forward with the "Benny Hill" theme playing.

Jim has a problem taking things seriously... I think this will be part of his arc this season.
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I liked Dwight talking about gasoline and tires being used for bombs. And the already pointed out scenes of Dwight cutting his weiner on the can, Jim and the cameraman hiding, Dwight still wearing the moustache and Dwight and Michael both threatening to burn Utica to the ground were all hilarious.
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- Michael's continued hatred of Toby, Toby in a bow-tie, Toby taking endless crap from Michael, again.
...And Toby's teacups.
post #120 of 302

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Yeah - last night's episode fell mostly flat for me, but I loved "The Finer Things" club.

That was just fantastic. Toby in the bowtie was my favorite.

I also loved Oscar and Toby interrogating Jim at the end about reading "Angela's Ashes."

"Who was the main character?"

"How did it end?"
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