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Was that Joel Gretsch playing Dan's father in last night's episode?

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Yep. Noticed his name in the credits and found myself half-looking for him all episode, before he showed up with the highly amusing facial hair.

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With the newspaper losing money I believe Dan not telling the story will bite him. He'll probably be laid off. That way, he can go on and just worry about his wife and kid while he travels to the past.

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I was having similar thoughts. Likewise about the liquor store robbery and now he has the large stash of cash. These will be interesting plot twists.

As for why Dan doesn't tell his brother, I think he's trying to keep knowledge as limited as possible. As Langely noted, someone with such powers could be taken advantage of, and of great value to others. Finally, there's tension between the brothers and I don't know how much Dan really trusts his brother with such information.

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Plus he knows his brother won't believe it unless he sees it, since in the first couple of episodes the brother knew that Dan had told his wife he'd been in the past, and the brother was a jerk about it.

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Well, his brother must think something is strange since Dan disappeared from that bathroom with no signs how he could do that.

If Dan does get arrested and disappears from his jail cell, then perhaps his brother might be able to believe what is going on.

Neil

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There was a window open that the camera lingered on to show a possible escape route.

However, the escaping from jail is definately something I can see happening. Dan gets implicated in the heist, stews in jail, and then journeys out. His brother is then brought into the loop.

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I thought that was some kind of air vent (it seemed to be on an inside wall, same side as the door and the hallway) which was a) closed and b) clearly too small and high-up to be useful. I remembered thinking the brother looked at it as long as he did because he was trying to figure out if Dan could have escaped that way.

Regards,

Joe

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i like this show, but i would like it more.
i dont like that there is what seems to be a cliche' in these type of shows or movies.
the lead has no control over what happens to him. yet spouse/partner is always at odds with lead.

why is his wife mad at HIM when he dissappears and helps someone?
thats just stupid.

it's very selfish for her to be angry when he goes to help someone in the past.

i also think he has to tell his brother.
brother is taking advantage of him with his wife when he goes back.

anyway he should tell brother and wife has no right to be mad at him.



so what are the theories on why he is going back in time.
whats the cause, or is it really happening.

i remember the movie with travolta, phenomenon, it was slightly ambiguous
as to if he had brain damage or he was given the power by an outside force.

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That's how people are. Her life has been turned upside down, her marriage is at risk, her husband is at risk, and her has been put in danger. She's confused and angry. And her husband is the cause of all of this, so she's mad at him. It's a wonder she hasn't just left him: the fact that Dan can't control it makes it all the worse. He can't be left alone in a car, with their son, in any position of responsibility with their family.

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but it isnt his fault.

he has no control over it, she has no reason or right to be angry with him.

he needs her support mostly because he is confused and has no idea whats causing it to happen.

what if the guy was falling into comas without notice.
2 or three times a day he just goes out, coma, narcalepsy, he has no control over his condition, she cant justify her anger towards him in any way.

she might as well just leave him now and be with the brother.
this whining about him being gone is boring.
why even have the wife if she serves no purpose other then to cause
tension.
plot device is all she is. zzzzzzz


which is another thing that doesnt make sense.
brother is obviously a sort of weasel, why is she letting him show up husband by pushing the "well he was there to escort me to my special event and you werent" button.

it would be much more interesting character development if she was his partner in this and helping him figure out what is going on rather then pouting about him not being at her "superbowl" while he was out saving peoples lives.

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Still it is realistic for her to express her frustration as well. I think she is doing the best she can under the circumstances. She is providing some support and once she get more used to the situation things will improve. Now that their son thinks he's magic that might help.

Neil

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I think he will get busted for the liquor store robbery. But, the clerk will awake from his coma and reveal it wasn't him. I also think telling the brother will help also. Just for the fact it would lessen the tension between them. I also think that doc knows more than he is letting on. It was cool that his son saw him vanish. I keep waiting for him to vanish in front of his wife...as further proof. The son knowing takes a lot of pressure off Dan. With regards to the wife understanding. I started a discussion of this earlier in this thread. I asked my wife how she would react. She said while it would be stressful. She would understand. Especially, if I had NO control over it. But, she could see where some women might take it so good.

Finally, Can Dan push Livia into answering some questions about who and why?

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Don't forget the Livia factor. She's always known deep down that she wouldn't have won Dan if Livia hadn't "died." Now, Livia's not only back, but she's able to share a part of Dan's life that Katie never will (not until Dan figures out how to bring others along for the ride, anyway).

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i can understand frustration but still dont see her anger at dan as being legit.
it's a plot device is all.

as for livia, sure that can be tough to deal with, but dan is your husband not livia's.
he has shown no reason why she should be worried about dan leaving her and going back to livia, other then wife is pushing him to her with her
behavior.

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Not to change the direction of this thread, but I thought it was clear that the John Travolta character had a brain tumor.

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Their conversation was a lovely little dance. I really enjoyed it.

TonyD -- the wife may not be rationally justified in her anger towards Dan, but it's probably the most realistic aspect of the show . People, when frustrated and scared by serious issues beyond their control, vent their anger against the person closest to being responsible. And frankly, in your examples, if Dan was in a Coma, etc., she would still be angry at him. He's the one causing the trouble, even if it's beyond his control, and is responsible.

But, and this is certain to be a plot issue, she's not convinved this disappearing business is beyond his control! I think she believes that, in some secret way perhaps, he's doing these things on purpose. Or he could stop it if he really wanted to.

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That's what I like about the show. The show is exploring what this uncontrolable time travel is doing to this family and how they are trying to come to terms with this. In the most recent episode, it seemed the wife was starting to accept it though, of course, she was still not happy with it.
They are adding more layers to the characters and this Livermore Lab guy who seems to know more than what he is telling is a nice twist.

He told his Brother before and he didn't believe him.

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The Livermore guy made a hasty exit at the end of his short interview, perhaps he felt a headache coming on too.

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Not a bad theory at all. Perhaps Livia, Dan, and him are all journeying to the same time? That would certainly explain Livia's tendancy to show up where Dan is.

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Which leads to the question - which, like many of the questions this show leads to, is something I kind of figure Dan would have asked by now - of where and when Livia is when she's not traveling? Further in the future? Some sort of underground base? Elsewhere on the planet (even though the trips seem to generally be in the same geographic area).

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Livia's behavior continues to decrease her relevance in the show's overall arc. I feel that the physicist with whom Dan met for a mere ten minutes, has taken more steps in clarifying Dan's mission than she has.

Last night's episode did hint at something greater in her purpose, though. Livia apparently appears whenever Dan is 'off-course.' This tells me that Dan is actually Livia's 'charge.' She is there to help him in the same way he is there to help others - only, her mission with him is more complex than simply 'save a life.'

I just wish the writers could capitalize on this. Make Livia a human being rather than enigmatic window dressing. Let's say she is being tasked by some 'greater authority' to help someone that it's painful for her to even look at. She has to face the reality that he's not in her life anymore and help him at the same time. That must suck. Unfortunately, you don't get the sense that she's suffering or even fallible. She's just a kind of wandering mage. This show can do better with her character.

The forward momentum that most shows so desperately need to retain their audience has been very slow going with Journeyman. However, I like how much time the writers are focusing on Dan's wife and brother and boss, really fleshing out these characters a bit. The writing is actually pretty sharp.

Last night's episode focused more on consequences. For instance, the money that Dan 'inherits' from the hijacker continues to both pose a dilemma in the present and solve a nagging problem in the past. Dan's inability to produce a story at his work was not ignored by the next episode... in fact, he was berated by his boss by failing to produce anything. I like how the writers aren't ignoring these little story arcs. This is a show that should not be utilizing the 'reset button,' otherwise any of its dramatic promise will dissipate.

I can't say why I continue to tune in, since this is a serviceable but unremarkable show. Perhaps it's because the newsroom setting reminds me a bit of 'Zodiac' and that I live around SF myself.

One gripe about last night: I don't care how fast your brother's car is, driving from the middle of SF to Emeryville in less than a half an hour to intercept a mail bomb is a stretch.

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Don't let the folks from 24 see that!

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Even though we didn't see it, I'm willing to cut them a little slack and assume that Jack keeps a portable blue light and siren in the Mustang, and that's what Dan used to get through traffic that fast. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Joe

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I really thought that Jack was going to tell his brother at the end. I think it should happen soon.

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I live where you can get anywhere in 20 minutes, and just assume everywhere else is the same.

Good episode; I liked the reveal on Jack and Katie's history. Now to find out how they started dating at all.

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I'm wondering if we're going to see that GFNG0 throughout his time travels sort of like in Doctor Who season 1 with Rose's message, Bad Wolf

Maybe this Steve character(from Keepers episode) is part of an organization (GFNG0) that is trying to stop time travel and Langley(tacions expert) is one of the good guys or bad guys(could go either way) is one of the main targets for the takedown.
Or maybe Langley is even part of this GFNG0 organization

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I'm inclined to doubt that there is any such organization. The writers did a pretty good job presenting a classic "lone nut bomber" in the Ted Kaczynski mold. These guys often claim to be members of large organizations pursuing some goal, when in fact they are the only "members".

Regards,

Joe

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Better happen soon,its getting abit hard to swallow.{the bs}

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This show moves fast (re: the money)! The only part of the story that is defying my expectation is that Dan hasn't asked Livia where she is when she isn't traveling through time, but it feels like that question is about to be asked.

The pace of everything feels very much like they wrote out a 13 episode storyline, that will work if the show ends or if the show continues. That is satisfying.

Looks like -- and this is a spoiler not only of tonight's episode but of next week's as seen in the preview at the end of tonight's episode -- that Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)