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post #121 of 544
10/11/07 at 9:46pm

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You almost had me there.

I think a theme will develop about should he go back and change things so he marries the other chick, and maybe his brother will be happier. He'll lose the kid, though.
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post #122 of 544
10/12/07 at 4:18am

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I keep thinking he has to learn to control the time jumps. Keep them from happening when he's not ready. Make them happen when he is ready or wants to jump. Be able to determine when and where he is going to jump to.

Of course, I realize if he did all that, then that'd make the show way to predictable and maybe too easy for him. But also, maybe not. He thinks he has to go here and do this, but he really needs to go there and do that.

I guess what makes me think he needs to learn this control, is that it seems Livia CAN do this.
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post #123 of 544
10/13/07 at 9:05pm

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This latest episode kind of lost me. While I like the concept and the story, I'm not sure I'm into these "save of the week" stories that all seem pretty similar. Although I admit I don't think I even understood this last one. Was he supposed to cause the gambler to almost die in the quake to make him realize how precious life was? If that's the case, that's kind of weak and contrived. It's getting kind of ridiculous how Livia just keeps popping up as well in his "travels". The potential is there, but I'm slowly losing interest. Not sure if I'll be sticking with this one much longer.
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post #124 of 544
10/14/07 at 9:00pm

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Sorry, but I've got to rip Journeyman BIG time for the cheap knockoff it is.

I've watched every episode so far and can say I'm no longer interested unless something DRASTIC changes the script and plots thus far. Bottom line with this show is it's almost a 100% clone of Quantum Leap without the good acting or a time jump/plot that works OK for the most part. It would take too long to go into everything that's wrong but I'll just say people should save their time and buy the box sets of Quantum Leap instead. The acting, plots, etc. are all better by far.

Hollywood has certainly ran out of ideas for a TV show to rehash this. If I was giving the go ahead it would never make it off the floor because I would simply hand them a Quantum Leap DVD and send them packing.

I give this show through mid-season, but don't think it will last much beyond.
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post #125 of 544
10/14/07 at 9:05pm

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Originally Posted by Jeffery_H
Sorry, but I've got to rip Journeyman BIG time for the cheap knockoff it is.

I've watched every episode so far and can say I'm no longer interested unless something DRASTIC changes the script and plots thus far. Bottom line with this show is it's almost a 100% clone of Quantum Leap without the good acting or a time jump/plot that works OK for the most part. It would take too long to go into everything that's wrong but I'll just say people should save their time and buy the box sets of Quantum Leap instead. The acting, plots, etc. are all better by far.

Hollywood has certainly ran out of ideas for a TV show to rehash this. If I was giving the go ahead it would never make it off the floor because I would simply hand them a Quantum Leap DVD and send them packing.

I give this show through mid-season, but don't think it will last much beyond.
I don't disagree with most of what you're saying other than the acting on 'Quantum Leap'...uh...Scott Bakula? One of the worst actors of his time (pun intended).
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post #126 of 544
10/15/07 at 4:47am

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I don't disagree with most of what you're saying other than the acting on 'Quantum Leap'...uh...Scott Bakula? One of the worst actors of his time (pun intended).

Actually I thought Bakula was pretty good on Quantum Leap, much better than he was on ENterprise. But you can't compare him with Vorenus !
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post #127 of 544
10/15/07 at 9:05pm

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This show just annoys me, but I tuned in tonight because nothing else was on (since the Falcons pre-empted the CBS lineup and I'm a few episodes behind on the Bachelor). I'm at the point of "who cares?" when Dan goes on his trips since we don't know why these "Touched by a Time-Traveling Angel" saves are all that important in the grand scheme of things. Sure, I guess they'll take their sweet time in revealing how each person saved was important, but for now, it's like watching TV with fogged up sunglasses.
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post #128 of 544
10/15/07 at 9:12pm

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Another awesome episode tonight. The show may be slightly similar to Quantum Leap in that they are both time travel shows, but Quantum Leap was entirely different in what its purpose was: Quantum Leap was all about illustrating societal progress, through visits to time periods when people stood up for their rights and made a difference. Journeyman is about marriage and brotherly competition and juggling too many things at once. It is a personal story about this one man and the people around him, in his life. In Quantum Leap, Scott Bakula's character was not part of the storyline, it was all about history.

I like Journeyman, and I liked Quantum Leap. Different shows, different focus.

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when Dan goes on his trips since we don't know why these "Touched by a Time-Traveling Angel" saves are all that important in the grand scheme of things

They "missions" are not really important, in terms of the storyline, in the sense that the outcome doesn't really affect his own life. They're just entertainment. The drama is what is happening to his own life. The missions provide some entertainment, as they did in Tru Calling or other shows where people who died are saved, but it is the longer story arc that is what I tune in for.
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post #129 of 544
10/15/07 at 9:24pm

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Ooh, I also want to credit the situation in tonight's episode where it looked like

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where it looked like Dan may have been shot and was not aware of it. I was expecting him to pass out while dancing with his wife, especially after the blood soaked hankie was shown. But I am glad he did not turn out to be shot though, as all that we needed was an awareness of the risk -- and they conveyed that loud and clear with what they implied.


One thing I didn't care for much was the

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phone call from the tachyon scientist.


I know that some have been asking for explanations, but we're only like 4 episodes in, couldn't an explanation wait until the season one cliffhanger?
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post #130 of 544
10/15/07 at 9:43pm

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
This show just annoys me, but I tuned in tonight because nothing else was on (since the Falcons pre-empted the CBS lineup and I'm a few episodes behind on the Bachelor). I'm at the point of "who cares?" when Dan goes on his trips since we don't know why these "Touched by a Time-Traveling Angel" saves are all that important in the grand scheme of things. Sure, I guess they'll take their sweet time in revealing how each person saved was important, but for now, it's like watching TV with fogged up sunglasses.
Huh? I thought toward the end of each "Touched by a Time-Traveling Angel" story they've indicated why it was important to save that person. We'll likely never hear from those people again, they have nothing to do with the overall story other than developing the Dan character.
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post #131 of 544
10/15/07 at 9:48pm

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One thing I didn't care for much was the

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phone call from the tachyon scientist.
I loved that one. Nice twist if you try to think it through, or not
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post #132 of 544
10/15/07 at 11:32pm

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I agree with Will. It's Dan's personal story in the present is what is most interesting about this show. Will his wife stand by him? Will she go back to Jack? Will Livia return to the present? Next week's show illustrates how his present life will be affected by his time travelling at the wrong time.

As for the past, I do like how Livia is interacting and helping out at times but I wish we get to know more of her story soon. I also liked the twist with the cell phone.
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post #133 of 544
10/15/07 at 11:40pm

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One thing I didn't care for much was the

Why is it that you don't care for it?

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Is it because the call came from the scientist in the present while Jack was in the past?
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post #134 of 544
10/15/07 at 11:45pm

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I'm guessing
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Dan will be able to communicate with his wife in the present through his cell phone.
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post #135 of 544
10/16/07 at 12:25am

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I'm guessing that the scientist himself can communicate through time...
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post #136 of 544
10/16/07 at 2:22am

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I also liked the twist with the cell phone.
So it's kinda like on Dr. Who how Rose could always call her mum, no matter when or where they were.
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post #137 of 544
10/16/07 at 5:36am

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I find JourneyMan is building on itself. It is playing on the "practical" matters of time-travel. The most interesting aspect of the show is how his "travels" affect his regular life. Each week, the consequences have added; the cliched Star-Trek reset button hasn't been pressed yet.

But its strengths aside, it doesn't have the emotional power of Heroes. It's an enjoyable show but I can still walk away at anytime. In large part, as Patrick observes, the time travels are dull and inconsequential. A lot of time is spent to make the home-life story worthwhile. It's not an even trade.

It's also hampered by San Francisco and the past 20 years being a dull time-place to travel. He jumped back to 1997, with the appropriate musical cues. Except all the pop hits from 10 years ago are still in rotation on the radio today, so it doesn't "sound" like 1997 anymore than 2007. The give-away was the Ally McBeal (dancing baby) clip; cute and fun but tacked on. (And what bar was showing Ally McBeal in the middle of the afternoon in 1997?)

I'm staying with it for now, I guess. I continue to enjoy the show. It's very much a modern superhero show: the drama isn't the capes and superpowers, but in the drama of living with the unexpected burden of such powers. But good super-action is still required and that's where JourneyMan is lacking.
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post #138 of 544
10/16/07 at 7:35am

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My guess it the scientist is in the same time as Dan was. He knew where he was going to be - timewise and called him. I don't think the cell phone can communicate through time.
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post #139 of 544
10/16/07 at 8:33am

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I feel asleep 3/4 way through, was tired. But I caught that scene where the professor calls him on the older cell phone, sounded like the same call he got earlier in the office from him. Same call? Maybe an echo?

I live in the SF Bay area, not that boring to me! Though they obviously don't film the show here.

I'm surprised there wasn't a Daniel Craig comparison as he wore a tux last night. I do wonder how long his wife will tolerate the timeshifts. They do seem to be building up to something. Didn't care for the stories where he's in the past either. But it was fun to see a Silicon Valley type element to it.
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post #140 of 544
10/16/07 at 8:43am

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Originally Posted by Will_B
Another awesome episode tonight. The show may be slightly similar to Quantum Leap in that they are both time travel shows, but Quantum Leap was entirely different in what its purpose was
And the creators definitely are aware of the similarities in people's minds. They even had a character in the opening bit say, "Oh, Boy."
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It is a personal story about this one man and the people around him, in his life. In Quantum Leap, Scott Bakula's character was not part of the storyline, it was all about history.
And now Dan's father is somehow involved. The business of the Livermore guy knowing his father and then contacting him in the past must be setting something up.
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The missions provide some entertainment, ... but it is the longer story arc that is what I tune in for.
I really think that by the end of the season, the show will be quite different than what we are seeing now.

Neil
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post #141 of 544
10/16/07 at 8:45am

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Huh? I thought toward the end of each "Touched by a Time-Traveling Angel" story they've indicated why it was important to save that person. We'll likely never hear from those people again, they have nothing to do with the overall story other than developing the Dan character.
In all the previous episodes we say what impact Dan's mission has had. For some strange reason we didn't see that this time around.

Neil
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post #142 of 544
10/16/07 at 9:01am

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I stuck with this show because it airs after Heroes (and I only get two channels on my TV), but dropped it halfway through last nights episode. They never managed to make me care about a single one of the main characters and as someone else said the time-travel missions have been dull. I'm surprised the show has lasted this long.
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post #143 of 544
10/16/07 at 9:24am

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This show is much more fun to rail on IRL (which I did with a co-worker this morning).

[snide]I'm waiting for Dan to bounce while in mid-thrust with the wife[/snide ]. (then landing in a church butt nekkid in between the pews would be funny to me.)

Dan and Katie just don't seem all that phased about the fantastical nature of him bouncing back and forth in time. The home life stuff isn't that engaging to me. They have made the premise of the show "Journeyman" into a sidenote for what? an examination of the romantic underpinings of 2 brothers in love with the same woman at different points of their lives? And why doesn't Dan just sit Livia down and get the 411 from the point when she "disappeared" instead of writing the Dan the running man plots to keep such revelations as nuggets to string along the viewers? Livia just remains so obtuse in her moments with Dan, it just rings false to me, it annoys me.
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post #144 of 544
10/16/07 at 10:55am

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I'm surprised there wasn't a Daniel Craig comparison as he wore a tux last night.

I was saying 'Bond, James Bond' every time he was on the screen in the tux, much to the annoyance of my wife.

When he popped into the mahjong parlor, I would've cracked up if he said 'Bond, James Bond' to the ladies playing.
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post #145 of 544
10/16/07 at 11:28am

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I just read that all the ratings info we've been seeing, for all shows, hasn't included Tivos at all! The article mentions Journeyman:

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/...

"premiere week ended 15 days ago. But Nielsen has just gotten around to releasing its updated, 'live + 7' ratings, which takes in both live viewing of a show and DVR viewing up to a week later....The seven-day numbers didn't change the top of the ratings too much, but there was some movement farther down the list. The new NBC drama 'Journeyman' saw its premiere rise from 42nd to 36th in the rankings."

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I'm surprised the show has lasted this long.

It just began to air!
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post #146 of 544
10/16/07 at 2:20pm

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
Dan and Katie just don't seem all that phased about the fantastical nature of him bouncing back and forth in time.
Well, how would we expect someone to act if they suddenly became itinerant time travelers? Well, they'd probably go stark raving mad and be institutionalized.

That would be a boring show

Isn't that a critique of all sci-fi & fantasy? No one is ever phased by the impossibilities they face. Buffy at least made a nod towards this, stating that the truth was so devastating that the residents of Sunnyvale just ignored it.

I know you're not grooving on the show, Patrick, but if you quit watching, you won't be able to post snarky comments about it. And that would be a boring thread
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post #147 of 544
10/16/07 at 2:51pm

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Curses! Foiled again!
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post #148 of 544
10/16/07 at 5:35pm

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Is it just my audio dropped out or something, or did the "Previously on..." segment not say "Previously on Journeyman" but instead said something else? I went back in the recording and wasn't sure if it was a glitch or just that they never changed it from the previous name.
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post #149 of 544
10/17/07 at 8:34am

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I am getting a little annoyed at the way the wife is acting. One second she understands whats up and the other she is all mad at him. I understand it causes stresses. But, she acts like Dan is doing it on purpose. She should try to be more understanding. I mean if he was sick. Would she get mad that he couldn't make her banquet? He has no control of this.

Also, I think its time to tell the brother. Make his life easier.

Finally, the wife almost making a move on the brother. Was that because she still wants him or is pissed that Dan is seeing Livia?
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post #150 of 544
10/17/07 at 8:37am

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The beady-eyed brother is a dog. Hitting on his brothers wife when she is down is pretty pathetic.

I also agree the wife needs to get over her little pity party. It looks like it is going to get worse judging by next weeks promo.
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