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post #1 of 544
9/21/07 at 12:07am
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Don't worry no spoilers ahead.

I Just watched the pilot for Journeyman on OnDemand HD and I was completely blown away, if this series can remain as exciting and cinematic as the pilot was than this will be one great show.

The lead actor, Kevin McKidd is what held it all together, on top of a solid story and set-up McKidd puts one in the mind of Rod Taylor in The Time Machine in that he exudes the same state of both wonderment and confusion all at once, you feel for him as he struggles to deal with the strange occurances that begin to intrude on his perfect life, he also reminded me a lot of Daniel Craig but that was mostly in appearance.

After it was over I couldn't believe that I had just watched a television show, it really did have a feeling of a theatrical movie and I can't wait to see more. It has it all, traditional time travel elements, solid writing, great acting and lots of heart to spare.

I am so onboard with this show as the pilot was incredible IMO.
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post #2 of 544
9/21/07 at 4:18am

Re: 'JOURNEYMAN'...wow!

Yeah, I saw this last week.
I think this has MAJOR potential

Especially about Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
his deceased girlfriend, that is also a time traveler(Journey woman)?


I LOVED IT!
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post #3 of 544
9/21/07 at 4:38am

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I've seen the pilot, and I think it's going to be a bit too confusing for the general public on a weekly basis. I didn't love the pilot, and would need to see a few more episodes to see if the premise grabs me enough to commit to watching it on a weekly basis.
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post #4 of 544
9/21/07 at 5:06am
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I don't know, Patrick, the time travel stuff was pretty straight foreward I thought, there have been many time travel movies and shows that have used these same devices and the pilot did a good job at explaining itself.

Look at Heroes, that show is extremely complex, I was lost quite a few times during the course of the first season, and people ate it up, i'm really hoping they recieve Journeyman the same way. Not saying that Journeyman will pull in Heroes-like numbers but i'm hoping it'll do well enough to flourish.
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post #5 of 544
9/21/07 at 6:08am

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I love the previews and my wife and I are looking forward to seeing it back to back with Heroes. So I excited to hear your positive reaction, John. (And love the sig )
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post #6 of 544
9/21/07 at 6:30am

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So Kevin McKidd was in Rome, no? Is he an english actor? I saw some commercials and he seems like he could be struggling with the 'american' accent. It could just be me.
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post #7 of 544
9/21/07 at 10:22am

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Loved McKidd in Rome, now if we could just get Titus Pullo a series, here he was OK, thou the premise of the series is slightly like Quantum Leap, although Mckidd gets to come back home from time to time. Still I'll watch a few eps and see if it grabs me.
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post #8 of 544
9/21/07 at 12:13pm
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Re: 'JOURNEYMAN'...wow!

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Originally Posted by DaveF
(And love the sig )

Thanks. I seriously thought I was going to blow a gasget laughing at that episode (Angel not Journeyman).

If McKidd is english he did a great job covering his accent here as I didn't even notice.
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post #9 of 544
9/21/07 at 12:44pm

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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
If McKidd is english he did a great job covering his accent here as I didn't even notice.



From IMDB;

Kevin McKidd was brought up in Elgin, Scotland and was a member of the Moray Youth Theatre before going on to study Engineering at the University of Edinburgh. While at university Kevin became involved with Bedlam Theatre, the university's student theatre company. At this point Kevin decided to give up on engineering and dropped out of university to pursue acting full-time. In 1994 he landed the leading role in the stageplay 'The Silver Darlings', produced by Robert Carlyle's Rain Dog Theatre Company. It was only a matter of time before Kevin made his screen debut as the vicious gangleader Malky Johnson in Gillies Mackinnon's Small Faces (1996). His next role was as the tragic, gentle giant Tommy in Trainspotting (1996).
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post #10 of 544
9/23/07 at 8:12pm

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I'll watch it on your say-so, John. Not on OnDemand, though, since mine doesn't have it. I've already got it set up for tomorrow. If I like it, I'll probably keep it in lieu of K-Ville. That isn't catching my fancy so far, and I really don't want to watch four shows every Monday.
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post #11 of 544
9/24/07 at 4:22am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

This sounds a lot like a computer game from a couple of years ago.
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post #12 of 544
9/24/07 at 7:24am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

I'm really looking forward to this show. Time travel is one of my favorite movie and TV show themes.
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post #13 of 544
9/24/07 at 8:55am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

Also set to watch it after Heroes. I've always been a fan of Quantum Leap eventhough I thought the finale sucked, but it looks interesting.
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post #14 of 544
9/24/07 at 9:27am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

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Originally Posted by Jerome Grate
Also set to watch it after Heroes. I've always been a fan of Quantum Leap eventhough I thought the finale sucked, but it looks interesting.

Did you think the finale Sucked or the ending? I always liked the ending it was a bit whimsical, and it left it open for a Continuation.
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post #15 of 544
9/24/07 at 10:16am

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Originally Posted by Dave Scarpa
Loved McKidd in Rome, now if we could just get Titus Pullo a series, here he was Ok.

Pullo will be taking over the role of the Punisher in the sequel from Thomas Jane.
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post #16 of 544
9/24/07 at 10:29am

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Originally Posted by todd s
Pullo will be taking over the role of the Punisher in the sequel from Thomas Jane.

Jane was pretty good in the role. I can't picture Pullo in it
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post #17 of 544
9/24/07 at 9:22pm

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

Just watched the premier. I enjoyed it. I am glad he finally convinced the wife. It would have been a little too much. Also, from the coming attractions he seems to get an idea of when its going to happen. So its not completely out of the blue.

Now when he goes back to the 80's-90's. He needs to invest heavily in Microsoft and every other tech stock. Then he doesn't have to worry about his newspaper job to support the family.
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post #18 of 544
9/24/07 at 9:54pm

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

I enjoyed it.

The one thing that didn't make sense to me...right before the scene where Dan runs into the gang (including himself) at the restaurant (celebrating his engagement with Livia), he calls his brother from a pay phone. It's supposed to be New Year's Eve 1988, and not only does his brother have a modern cell phone, but Dan is able to call it (like his cell number even if he had one in 1988 would be the same as it is current day). Perhaps I missed something about that scene, but that was a headscratcher to me.
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post #19 of 544
9/24/07 at 10:24pm

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

That scene took place on Dec. 31st 1997.

I liked the show. I'll keep watching.
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post #20 of 544
9/24/07 at 11:15pm

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

so the actor is scottish and just uses an american accent ala Christian Bale (who's british but you know what i mean)?.
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post #21 of 544
9/25/07 at 1:51am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

Pretty good. I'm glad the wife found out in the end rather than dragging that out. One thing that was odd, I just saw a PBS special about a woman who was struck by lightning three times and finally moved to San Francisco because lightning is very rare there. But here, both rain scenes featured thunder and lightning. Gaff, or was I mislead about the rarity of SF lightning?

Strange that this guy followed Heroes, because he looked like David Anders to me all night.
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post #22 of 544
9/25/07 at 4:51am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

McKidd reminds me more of Anthony Michael Hall on the Dead Zone, with a messier haircut.
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post #23 of 544
9/25/07 at 6:22am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

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Originally Posted by Dave Scarpa
Did you think the finale Sucked or the ending? I always liked the ending it was a bit whimsical, and it left it open for a Continuation.

The ending., it was left open for continuation but it left me empty. Any hoot, thought Journey Man was quite good. Some observations, first his ex-girlfriend is hot and when she took her clothes off I felt for him. The twist about the ex being a Journey woman that's a nice edition. I can see why his brother is pissed off with him, good story line I thought especially for a pilot.
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post #24 of 544
9/25/07 at 6:54am

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Originally Posted by ScottH
I enjoyed it.

The one thing that didn't make sense to me...right before the scene where Dan runs into the gang (including himself) at the restaurant (celebrating his engagement with Livia), he calls his brother from a pay phone. It's supposed to be New Year's Eve 1988, and not only does his brother have a modern cell phone, but Dan is able to call it (like his cell number even if he had one in 1988 would be the same as it is current day). Perhaps I missed something about that scene, but that was a headscratcher to me.
That scene in the restaurant was New Year's Eve 1997, when the kid was 7 years old. I'm still trying to figure out what Livia's role is in all of this. I hope that is explained very soon. Overall, I liked the first episode. I, too, was a huge fan of Quantum Leap.
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post #25 of 544
9/25/07 at 7:15am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

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so the actor is scottish and just uses an american accent ala Christian Bale (who's british but you know what i mean)?.

Yes, and I like Kevin Mckidd but to me it sounds like he's struggling to sound american. I don't know why they couldn't have let him speak in his natural accent. Is it so inconceivable to the american viewership that a scottish man moved to america and married an american woman?
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post #26 of 544
9/25/07 at 7:20am

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Originally Posted by MarkMel
Yes, and I like Kevin Mckidd but to me it sounds like he's struggling to sound american. I don't know why they couldn't have let him speak in his natural accent. Is it so inconceivable to the american viewership that a scottish man moved to america and married an american woman?

Maybe his accent in Rome was not his also I have'nt heard him speak in his natural voice, but surely what was there in rome was fine
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post #27 of 544
9/25/07 at 8:13am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

I caught most of the first half hour of this last night before tuning out to see The War. Maybe someone can spoilerize the ending for me.

I also thought it felt like Quantum Leap. Of course I missed the second half, so I don't know what's going on! It was interesting up till then.

Regarding San Francisco, I live in the SF Bay Area, down in the Peninsula. There are rare lightening storms that have occurred. One night it was so bright and loud that it lit up the inside of the house! But that was once. Also found the CGI so fake cause the view of SF from his house looked fake, well done, but there isn't a view like that. Same with the top of the Golden Gate Bridge seen from the supposed Golden Gate Park. It was well done CGI though!
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post #28 of 544
9/25/07 at 9:24am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
I don't know, Patrick, the time travel stuff was pretty straight foreward I thought, there have been many time travel movies and shows that have used these same devices and the pilot did a good job at explaining itself.

Look at Heroes, that show is extremely complex, I was lost quite a few times during the course of the first season, and people ate it up, i'm really hoping they recieve Journeyman the same way.
The problem is there's no set up. We don't know how this particular breed of time travel works or what the rules are. That leaves it open to lazy writing.

Nothing in the previews said "this is what the show is about." Nothing in the pilot really did either. Heroes has a complicated story, but all of the characters are archetypes so they stand out from one another. And Heroes had a fantastic advertising campaign, with a tag line that entered the public conciousness and commercials that told us exactly what the show was about.

The only thing it has in its favor is the post-Heroes spot on the schedule. That's the only reason I watched. It was intriguing enough to keep me tuning in next week but not enough for me to seek it out elsewhere on the schedule.
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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
McKidd reminds me more of Anthony Michael Hall on the Dead Zone, with a messier haircut.
That's what I thought as well, very similar build and face. The way he blindly interferes with fate is extraordinarily similar as well. The difference is, the rules of Johnny's ability are clearly defined, where as the Journeyman script just popped him to whatever time and place it required him.

The only "holy shit, that got my attention" moment for me was when his dead girlfriend turned out not only to be alive but suffering from a similar affliction.
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post #29 of 544
9/25/07 at 9:32am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

I liked the show enough to tune in next week. Not as dreadful as critics say.
It is like a cross between Quantum Leap and The 4400.
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post #30 of 544
9/25/07 at 10:48am

Re: Journeyman - series premiere 9/24/07

Well, it was OK. I'll give it a few more episodes, but it felt like a mid-season, mediocre episode, and not a season opener.

1) As Adam said so well,
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The problem is there's no set up. We don't know how this particular breed of time travel works or what the rules are. That leaves it open to lazy writing.

2) Why do I care? Saving some random dude from killing his wife, so his son could later be a random hero? Didn't really do anything for me.

3) Time-traveling around SF in the past 20 years is not the interesting. San Francisco today looks like SF 10 years ago looks like SF 20 years ago. I enjoyed the Less than Zero billboard, and the 90s period music (which is still on the radio so it didn't really scream "90s!" to me, and the Michael Jackson jacket. But it's not a broad palette with which to paint time travel.

4) There's no rules. It's just a bit too abstract to pull me in.

On the plus side
1) I like the reality to it. When JourneyMan is pulled, his world continues. His car crashes, nearly killing people.

2) The soap opera of characters. He's married to his brother's ex, and she was inlove with him when he was married to his first love, who's dead but really is a time traveler.

3) Unlike Quantum Leap, this is full time travel; he can encounter himself and screw up his own life.

An enjoyable show. But it was lacking a significant degree of dramatic oomph. I think it will be gone mid season.
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