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post #121 of 1608

Re: Battlestar Galactica Season 4

That's the way I would play it. If it has aired then you should not have to spoiler-ize it.

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post #122 of 1608

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Originally Posted by JediFonger
i hated the original BSG. i think people luv them because they were young when they saw them. they cherished the MEMORY of watching BSG... not the series itself. i've seen every single ep of 77 and 80's. it is just horrible on every level.

that's why i'll never get why there's even an argument in the first place. BSG the new thing shouldn't even be called BSG. should've been just "inspired by" but call it somn else.

I agree that there is an element of nostalgia in the original show and that it's execution often tended to be juvenile. But the original show had some great ideas behind it - which is another reason I was always frustrated with the show, because the cute robots and 70s TV conventions kept it from realizing its true potential.

I still think the 3-hour pilot (or 2-hour theatrical movie) was a solid piece of work. Even the two-part "Lost Gods of Kobol" with Jane Seymour was good. It was after that the show fell into too many stereotypes.

Ron Moore's Battlestar has really found the promise in the original's concept. I credit Moore with dusting off what so many of us saw in that original show and staying true to it in a manner both honest and fierce. That the cuurent show touches on themes both universal and current is what will make it a classic that will be watched for decades.
post #123 of 1608

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Damn, Sam! You pretty much said everything that I wanted to say.

Even back when TOS aired in '78, I (being 12 years old), thought "This could be more." The premise was very intriguing but the execution sucked. I'm so glad that Ron Moore actually realized the vision I had back then.
post #124 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
I still think the 3-hour pilot (or 2-hour theatrical movie) was a solid piece of work. Even the two-part "Lost Gods of Kobol" with Jane Seymour was good. It was after that the show fell into too many stereotypes.
I'll go a little further, and say that the Original BSG was almost like two series. The two-hour episodes were almost all ten times better than the one-hour episodes. Okay, "Message from Earth" was pretty weak, but "Gun on Ice Planet Zero" was a pretty enjoyable remake of The Guns of Navarone. And there is a good reason that, of all the guest characters, they resurrected Cain from "Living Legend." Finally, I thought "War of the Gods" was pretty good story-telling. By contrast, about the only one-hour episode that was worth a damn was the last one.
post #125 of 1608

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ya know... return of starbuck was pretty fantastic in 80. i think better than both seasons.
post #126 of 1608

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My DVR didn't record Razor. That really pissed me off. I guess I'll have to rent the DVD when it comes out.

When does the new season start again? I forgot...
post #127 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Andres Munoz
My DVR didn't record Razor. That really pissed me off. I guess I'll have to rent the DVD when it comes out.

When does the new season start again? I forgot...

The Director's cut is better anyway

Also, the new season starts March 2008, according to the website.
post #128 of 1608

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I heard that some fans had problems following the flashbacks in Razor, but I didn't see any personally. Maybe that was the televised version but I haven't seen that one yet. So I agree that the extended cut is the only way to take this one in.

Also if its true that Razor doesn't count toward the episode count of series 4, all the better. Means a tad more Battlestar.
post #129 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Binkleywalker
Also if its true that Razor doesn't count toward the episode count of series 4, all the better. Means a tad more Battlestar.

It really just depends on how you want to look at it. According to Moore, the original season 4 order was 20 episodes. He was then, at a later time, able to obtain 2 more episodes, for a total of 22, but intended those 2 episodes to be aired as a movie, much like the premiere (though shorter). Further, those 2 episodes were never meant to start the season per se, so we're left with episode 3 being the real season premiere, and I believe that is indeed how it will air on TV (ie: Razor won't air AGAIN, over the course of 2 weeks, followed by episode 3 in week 3).

Either way, Razor is cool

I particularly enjoyed the scenes with the Hybrid where
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we see he has knowledge of the Final Five; also his warning about Starbuck was a genuine surprise to me.
post #130 of 1608

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some of you play movies by jumping directly to chapter/scenes to avoid the copyright screens that appear. in case, make sure you hit play first because it will select the uncut version. u do NOT want to miss out on the extra scenes as it explains cain's character even more.

i DID end up missing it and realizing it once i viewed the bonus material. therefore, i have to watch it again uncut (woe is me, right .
post #131 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Josh Dial
The Director's cut is better anyway

i wholeheartedly agree after seeing the dvd the other day. i saw the aired version almost a couple of months ago and while good it was definitely improved upon by a exponential degree with added footage in the directors cut.

initially i felt like it would be a waste of time to watch it again. but i did anyway. i was trying to multitask but i got pulled in and had to put my computer down.

it was excellent.
post #132 of 1608

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yesh i managed to watch it yet again. i rarely watch content twice in a span of 3 busy days... but boy it was AWESOME!!! the extra edits are excellent. it accomplishes 2 purposes
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1. flesh out cain's backstory and enriches her character even more so we know why she's the way she is. imho, this SHOLD HAVE BEEN ONE edit, not 2 separate things, but i guess they need a DVD incentive.

2. let us know the hybrid knows what is going on with starbuck or... of "the ONE" like neo in the matrix


now for some PURE speculation entirely on my own. i don't read BSG fansite spoilers or any BSG news. i just accept new content as it appears. i have a new conjecture with regard to the end of the series:

discovering earth's past has no narrative end. there'd be no purpose. discovering earth's @present and future times will provide a lot of fuel for what will happen next. just as the matrix trilogy hints @cycles of things that will appear via the oracle, so it is that we have similar hints through cylons religious prophecies and even the oracles from season1. a scenario that is possible is that BSG arrives @earth and earth launches their nukes @all the remaining fleet and then cylons intervene and save humans from themselves. it shows that we are just as savage as BSG-era humans. or the ending would simply be us present or future blowing the BSG-era humans up.
post #133 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Josh Dial
Just as an aside - if anyone is looking for a little bit of fun, try reading this thread:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...ght=battlestar

It's the initial thoughts prior to and just after the mini-series. For some reason I found it entertaining

cheers!

Josh


very fun, and I miss Jeff Kleist!

post #134 of 1608

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Originally Posted by JediFonger
discovering earth's past has no narrative end. there'd be no purpose. discovering earth's @present and future times will provide a lot of fuel for what will happen next. just as the matrix trilogy hints @cycles of things that will appear via the oracle, so it is that we have similar hints through cylons religious prophecies and even the oracles from season1.

I wonder if the refrain "all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again" could be taken literally.
post #135 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Sam Favate
I wonder if the refrain "all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again" could be taken literally.

I would almost count on it being true, at least in the sense that all of the scriptures have been true on the show to the point. Heck, I wouldn't be at all surprised if BSG arrives at Earth, having eliminated the Cylon threat for good, only to find the 13th colony developing their own robot slaves, that look astonishingly close to the original cylons (though this isn't an actual theory of mine ).

Either way, to echo EJO, I have a feeling the final season is going to be a "wild ride."
post #136 of 1608

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Mostly it was that annoying Kiwi.. Can't even put a finger on why I disliked her so much.. She was hot, but...
I'm in the process of watching the DVD, but one thing I noticed about her early on was she has "doll's eyes." Most of the time you can't see much of the whites of her eyes and there's a kind of glassy deadness to them. This can be a little unsettling for some people, especially those with a fear of dolls and stuffed animals (or Stepford Wives).
post #137 of 1608

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Here's a good clip of Tricia at a con. Which con I'm not sure.
post #138 of 1608

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Season Four starts on April 4.

TV.com: Battlestar's return dated
post #139 of 1608

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So the show is back on Friday nights? That would be great news.
post #140 of 1608

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Originally Posted by TravisR
Season Four starts on April 4.

TV.com: Battlestar's return dated
If this is true then why does SciFi.com still say March 2008?
post #141 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Chris Will
If this is true then why does SciFi.com still say March 2008?
I can't vouch for the info but TV.com's info is generally solid. Maybe they're going off of inside info or rumor or maybe they're just flat out guessing but since the S3 DVD is coming out on March 25, I think they're close (if not 100% right).

Either way, it's all but guaranteed that the premiere won't be before March 25.
post #142 of 1608

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It's just weird that reputable sources have word that it will premiere on April 4th but ads on the SciFi channel and there website say "returning in March 2008." I guess the folks at SciFi are trying to rename the first 4 days of April to March.
post #143 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Chris Will
It's just weird that reputable sources have word that it will premiere on April 4th but ads on the SciFi channel and there website say "returning in March 2008." I guess the folks at SciFi are trying to rename the first 4 days of April to March.

I don't think it's anything that devios. Has it occurred to anyone that Sci Fi could have an "all new" recap show airing at the end of March in prep for the April 4th premiere? Technically, no new material would air, but it would be a "new" episode. In any case, we've already endured a year between fresh episodes. Is one more week REALLY going to hurt?
post #144 of 1608

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Or it's just a screw-up, i.e. it was originally scheduled for end-March 2008, it's been bumped a week, and no one thought to tell the guy/gal running the website to change it.
post #145 of 1608

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The problem is probably with the SciFi site. The Battlestar page in particular has been notoriously in need of updates, and when they do update, the gaps between them have been measured in months.

I'd probably put my faith in TV.com having done their homework and that there's people with a pulse over there.
post #146 of 1608

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Since SciFi literally "took" the webisodes from Ron Moore after a dispute on payment (they declared them "promotional" and refused to reimburse anybody for anything), SciFi probably has no writers of any sort working right now.
post #147 of 1608

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The SCI FI Channel's web site is not the place for timely and accurate information on SCI FI's programming schedule.
post #148 of 1608

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Originally Posted by Michael Harris
The SCI FI Channel's web site is not the place for timely and accurate information on SCI FI's programming schedule.


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post #149 of 1608

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Since the WGA strike freed up some viewing time for me, I have finally finished watched all 3 seasons of BSG, so I'm caught up for the final stretch run. It's going to be tough adjusting to a weekly diet of BSG in April.
post #150 of 1608

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Have you seen "Razor" yet?
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