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post #91 of 255
10/25/07 at 9:01pm

Re: Survivor: China (Survivor #15) Discussion Thread

I never realized Peih-Gee was, like, you know, so poorly spoken, like, many teenagers across, like, America.
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post #92 of 255
10/26/07 at 10:33am

Re: Survivor: China (Survivor #15) Discussion Thread

This season's been consistently great so far--the last one I can remember that had the first six episodes on this level is Palau. Maybe even Pearl Islands.

Of course, I couldn't help but be disappointed last night, because even though it was excellent, it would have been absolutely superb had Todd's idol plan worked.
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post #93 of 255
10/26/07 at 12:31pm

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Well, you have to love Courtney telling people "on her side" that she's not really totally on their side when she's more into saving Sherea than putting up with J-R on a strategic level. Todd just had to be fuming at Courtney during Tribal Council as Courtney lets loose her personal feelings of alienation from the "group", and, in the process, airs some dirty laundry within their tribe that didn't need to be aired. But Courtney is a me-first thinker, not a game theory thinker (you don't just vote to keep who you think will keep you in the game, but you also have to offer a reason for others to vote that's also in their best interest, which aligns with your best interest). If you annoy her, she focuses on her personal displeasure instead of embracing the bigger picture. Can't wait for Courtney to be expelled from the game.
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post #94 of 255
10/26/07 at 1:15pm

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Originally Posted by AnthonyC
This season's been consistently great so far--the last one I can remember that had the first six episodes on this level is Palau. Maybe even Pearl Islands.

Of course, I couldn't help but be disappointed last night, because even though it was excellent, it would have been absolutely superb had Todd's idol plan worked.

I agree Anthony. It's been very interesting seeing how the kidnap the other tribe member/hidden immunity idol situation has played out. I'm really enjoying this season and have no idea how this thing will shake out once the merge happens.
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post #95 of 255
10/26/07 at 2:09pm

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How about the level of dysfunction that went into that whole HII disaster?!

I'm not referencing the immunity food challenge itself (that's another whole story)...but the "discovery" of the HII with Todd, Amanda & Frosty. What a cluster----.
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post #96 of 255
10/26/07 at 6:15pm

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Am I wrong, or did they sit Courtney out twice in a row?
Because they always sit her out for reward challenges, which always struck me as strange, since you want to have your strongest members for the more important immunity challenges. Then last week, they only had one challenge, an immunity, and they sat her out for that. And that made me happy because they were onto a more logical routine now. Except they sat her out again for the Reward Challenge. How can they do this?

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They just keep upping the "fear factor" factor in these eating challenges. That chicken fetus showdown was just...ewwww....
I could have sworn the chicken fetus is a common food challenge on Survivor. I've seen it a few times before.

And who knew that toilet paper companies operated tea houses in China? When they first arrived and you saw the sign in the corner of the screen for a second, I just thought I had imagined the Charmin Teahouse, but then later on they did a full closeup of the sign, and that gratuitous level of produuct placement just annoyed me. Fine, give them actual rolls, I'm fine with that, but actually naming the place after the company is just tacky.

I think I have given Todd too much credit. I would have thought someone like him would know better than to look for the idol while everyone in the tribe is watching. And while I can understand him being surprised that the other team were trying to win this week, I would not have expected him to be so unprepared as to have not thought about a backup plan just in case his team lost.

The previews for next week look quite interesting. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Looks like a merge, plus, does the other team find Jamers' immunity idol?
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post #97 of 255
10/26/07 at 6:46pm

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Am I wrong, or did they sit Courtney out twice in a row?

Apparently the rule is that each episode is a cycle--you can sit out of an immunity challenge and then sit out in the next reward challenge, but not vice versa.

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I could have sworn the chicken fetus is a common food challenge on Survivor. I've seen it a few times before.

Yep, balut was used in the Palau gross food challenge as well (although it was duck fetus that season).

And as far as next week's preview:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I don't think the other team finds James' idol. On the other side of the board where the idol is, there's a similar-looking plaque. James probably took the idol down, the others noticed it was missing, and since Jaime and Erik know there's a hidden idol out in the open, they probably assumed that it had been claimed. Erik was holding the other plaque, which doesn't have the "Congratulations, you've found the hidden idol" message the actual idol does.
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post #98 of 255
10/26/07 at 8:31pm

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Originally Posted by MatthewLouwrens
I think I have given Todd too much credit. I would have thought someone like him would know better than to look for the idol while everyone in the tribe is watching.

I saw it as Amanda being the dumb one--playing her game of "something to do"--by knocking down the roofing tiles of that little pavilion structure which included the HII. She was the one actually "looking for the idol" with others in the area.

Then, Frosty moved into the picture and scaled the structure to also flail at the shingles...and then Todd nervously jumped in to try and get the idol without Frosty being any the wiser. Ooops. Didn't work.

The whole thing played out like the Keystone Cops.
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post #99 of 255
10/26/07 at 9:35pm

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Apparently the rule is that each episode is a cycle--you can sit out of an immunity challenge and then sit out in the next reward challenge, but not vice versa.
I guess that must be the rule - since I'm sure Jeff would have said something if they sat Courtney out when they couldn't.
I still don't understand the logic of making Courtney sit out reward challenges rather than immunity challenges.

And, thanks for the correction. I had forgotten that it was Amanda that started the inept hunt for the immunity idol.
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post #100 of 255
10/29/07 at 12:51pm

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"I still don't understand the logic of making Courtney sit out reward challenges rather than immunity challenges."

It's called being stupid. She is obviously a liability in any challenge, so they should be holding her out of the immunity ones (which are more important) - or better yet - just vote her off.......(I wish...)
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post #101 of 255
10/29/07 at 2:30pm

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My merge prediction.

Amanda, Denise, James, and Todd seem to be pretty tight as Fei Long. Frosti and Jean-Robert are outsiders leaning toward Fei Long. That's 6.

Courtney drove herself out of Fei Long, likely joining Zhan Hu (Erik, Jaime, Peih-Gee) next week. That's 4. Zhan Hu must get either Frosti or JR, but Frosti seem reluctant and Courtney will balk at JR.
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post #102 of 255
11/1/07 at 6:31pm

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Man oh man was that the funniest thing ever!

I kept thinking that maybe they would be smart enough to actually look at the idols that James had and possibly switch them out, but having Jaime actually play the fake idol was a riot. Waaaaaaaay more enjoyable!
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post #103 of 255
11/1/07 at 6:58pm

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Loved it. Best episode of the most consistent season since Pearl Islands.

Jaime playing the "idol" was funny enough...but Probst tossing it in the fire and Jean-Robert laughing hysterically was the icing on the cake.
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post #104 of 255
11/1/07 at 7:20pm
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I'm in total agreement that the "Hidden Idol" move by Jaime was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on Survivor. It definitely would make my "Best of" reel. And her comments during the credits show that she really didn't have a clue. I hope she is embarrassed when she sees the playback (but I'm not betting on it). Jaime singlehandedly set back blondes several decades with that move.


I'm thoroughly enjoying this season.

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post #105 of 255
11/1/07 at 7:24pm

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Ya know, Jeff hadn't even mentioned immunity idols yet during tribal councils (that the editors have let us see), so I was wondering if players were going to HAVE to play them before the votes were read (like last season)...or play them after the votes were read (like in all other seasons).

When Jaime played her faux HII tonight, and he explained the rules, Jeff never once mentioned when the idols needed to be played.

Good episode. Loved the way James told Jean-Robert during TC that he just "talks too much!"
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post #106 of 255
11/1/07 at 8:57pm

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"Immunization"
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post #107 of 255
11/2/07 at 5:38am

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Originally Posted by RAF
And her comments during the credits show that she really didn't have a clue. I hope she is embarrassed when she sees the playback (but I'm not betting on it). Jaime singlehandedly set back blondes several decades with that move.

I keep thinking about how she kept going on and on about how the tribe just thinks she is dumb, but little do they know... LOL! I still can't figure out why anyone (not just dumb blondes) never thought to check the idol with the two James had. Especially when they found out he had two of them.... they should have seen that something didn't add up.

Still a great moment in Survivor history seeing her play a piece of wood. ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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post #108 of 255
11/2/07 at 6:02am

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Certainly one of the most satisfying tribal councils ever. I have a question however. What are the rules about stealing in the game. Why didn't Jaime steal one or both idols? I'm glad she didn't but was there a rule preventing her from doing so? If you hated someone in the game, could you steal all their stuff and hide it or destroy it? Ultimately such a move would be self-destructive (everyone would hate you) but could it be done?

Seeing my man James go from death row to his current position has been immensely satisfying. And he's no dummy in playing the game. His only weakness is that he seems basically trustworthy, and not much of a liar which can be a liability (but is actually an asset in the final jury voting)

Jaime and Pei Gei seemed fairly clever, if devious in throwing the challenge, but afterward expecting James to just 'forgive and forget' and ally with them was stupidity beyone words. He was a 'spy' anyway in their tribe, and any chance to enlist his support now is ludicrous.
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post #109 of 255
11/2/07 at 6:23am

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Originally Posted by Stephen_L
Jaime and Pei Gei seemed fairly clever, if devious in throwing the challenge, but afterward expecting James to just 'forgive and forget' and ally with them was stupidity beyone words. He was a 'spy' anyway in their tribe, and any chance to enlist his support now is ludicrous.

Yeah. I was, like, really not sure, like, how Peih-Gee would, like, even consider that James would, like, have any interest in being, like, on her side.

As for James, I'm not so sure about his game play "smarts." While I'm not sucked in by his demeanor ("one of those immunization things" ) the editors are having us see that he seems to be getting played (manipulated) by Todd and Amanda.

I'm kinda wondering about the fact that Todd gave James HII #1 for their failed ruse of a week ago (which got mess up when Denise failed the food challenge). Wouldn't Todd (and by association Amanda & Frosti due to the incompetent bungling nature of their "discovery") be able to lay claim to at least one of those idols? Right now it seems like James has sole ownership of both.
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post #110 of 255
11/2/07 at 6:28am

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Now THAT was the most satisfying example of payback that I have seen so far in Survivor to date. Watching Jeff emotionlessly toss that worthless piece of wood into the fire and have those in the know breaking out laughing had me laughing my ass off. Very glad that Jaime's gone.....I was getting sick of her smugness. Not dumb? Maybe....but certainly not smart enough to check the wooden tablets that James had more closely were ya!

Looking forward to next week.......Go James!
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post #111 of 255
11/2/07 at 7:38am

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In Jamie's defence, it was dark when she went through James' stuff. In the dark, it'll be easy to see that the idols look very similar (it's only the bats on the corners that differ, right?).

But that was the funniest thing on Survivor. And having James talk about it early on in the episode set it up nicely.
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post #112 of 255
11/2/07 at 10:05am

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I don't think Jaime ever unwrapped the IIs from James' pants, just felt the size and shape of what was inside his pants (that sounded dirty, I know), and just assumed the leftover piece was another II. She should have known there wasn't going to be a 3rd II (sort of dillutes the Immunity challenges with that many IIs around to be found). But, her group isn't the sharpest tool in the shed (remember the conclusion they jump to in the swap meet of players a few episodes ago, they never thought they would also have to give up 2 of their own members, just thought the producers were going to hand them a 2-person advantage on the luck of the draw).
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post #113 of 255
11/2/07 at 12:02pm

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I'm not sure about other personal belongings, but I know that idols cannot be stolen.
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post #114 of 255
11/2/07 at 9:45pm
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Re: Survivor: China (Survivor #15) Discussion Thread

BTW,

Let me make it clear that I in no way mean to disrespect blondes as a whole. Some of the smartest people I ever met are blondes. It's just that "Blonde Jaime" was a highlight of the season for me - especially when she tried to explain her way out of it as the credits rolled.

Great TV!


(O.K. Girls, will you please untie me now?)

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post #115 of 255
11/5/07 at 7:11am

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I was wondering why Jeff hadn't said when the idols could be played during tribal council. Also why didn't James give the idol that Todd gave him back to him?

That was hilarious when Probst threw the fake idol on the fire! Jaime was dumb to think that was the real idol. I mean, why would it just be lying on the ground. On the other hand, if it was a real idol and she didn't play it, she would have looked even more stupid.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Looks like Todd is going to try and take James out next week by making him think he is safe so he won't use one of the idols. That would take out both idols, unless James gives Todd back the one he was given before tribal council.
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post #116 of 255
11/5/07 at 7:21am

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Originally Posted by Marianne
I was wondering why Jeff hadn't said when the idols could be played during tribal council.
Because they're not JUST Hidden Immunity Idols, they're -- SECRET Hidden Immunity Idols. I think everyone knows by now, but theoretically, since only two people left in the game were acutally informed that there were immunity idols, it would be possible for no one else to know that they exist. Far be it for Probst to spill those beans.

But yeah -- how would they know how and when to play them? Maybe the directions were in the clues?
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post #117 of 255
11/5/07 at 1:20pm

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Deleted because of double post!
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post #118 of 255
11/5/07 at 1:23pm

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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo
Because they're not JUST Hidden Immunity Idols, they're -- SECRET Hidden Immunity Idols. I think everyone knows by now, but theoretically, since only two people left in the game were acutally informed that there were immunity idols, it would be possible for no one else to know that they exist. Far be it for Probst to spill those beans.

But yeah -- how would they know how and when to play them? Maybe the directions were in the clues?

There have been HIIs in the last few seasons of Survivor so, unless the current Survivors have never seen the show, they would assume there would be HIIs.

Also, if only 2 people left in the game were actually informed that there were immunity idols, how come Jaime came to the conclusion that this was a HII?
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post #119 of 255
11/5/07 at 2:04pm

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I loved how Jaime said she wanted to prove she wasn't just some dumb little Jessica Simpson running around out there. Good job.

Oh, and Probst throwing that thing in the fire may be the best thing I've ever seen on Survivor.
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post #120 of 255
11/5/07 at 6:27pm

Re: Survivor: China (Survivor #15) Discussion Thread

Jamie was one of the two who were given written clues to the whereabouts.

Since the cast wasn't told that there was a HII, they wouldn't actually know it existed until they got one of the clues or someone who got a clue told them.

If they watched previous episodes, the HII clues were hidden on Exile Island, but there is no Exile Island this iteration. So they wouldn't necessarily assume there's a secret one.
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