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post #1 of 97
8/25/07 at 12:46pm
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Does anyone else have a passion for movie soundtracks?

I think they are the modern equivalent to classical music.

Some of my favourites (and i have many different movie genres) are:

Dances with Wolves (John Barry won an Oscar)
Van Helsing
The Mummy
Blade Runner
Vangelis (themes)
Romeo is Bleeding (Mark Isham)
Fifth Element (Eric Serra)
The Messenger (Eric Serra)
La Femme Nikita (Eric Serra)
The Professional (Eric Serra)
The Prisoner (3 disc tv series)
The Saint (both soundtracks)
Master and Commander Far Side of the World
A Beautiful Mind
A.I.
Star Wars series (John Williams)
Harry Potter series
King Kong (John Barry)
Battlestar Galactica series (original and remakes tv)
The Sopranos (tv series)
Ronin
Lord of the Rings series
Replacement Killers
Black Hawk Down (Hans Zimmer)
Gladiator (Hans Zimmer)
MI-2 (Hans Zimmer)
Bourne Identity and Supremacy
Tears of the Sun (Hans Zimmer)
Pirates of the Carribean Dead Mans Chest (Hans Zimmer)
Pirates of the Carribean Black Pearl
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Catch Me if You Can (John Williams)
The Passion of the Christ
Vertigo (Bernard Herrmann)
North by Northwest (Bernard Herrmann)
Day the Earth Stood Still (Bernard Herrmann)
Thin Red Line (Hans Zimmer)
Thief (Tangerine Dream)
Ghost in the Shell
The Avengers
Alexander (Vangelis)
Kingdom of Heaven
Patriot Games
Moby I like to Score
Amelie
Life Aquatic
Rob Roy

Well, thats most of the ones I took with me in cd cases when I recently moved over a thousand miles away, after my mother's passing in May.

Does anyone else collect soundtrack's? I have been for many years and have many more (just cant think of them).

I find this music (with no lyrics mostly-the orchestral scores) to be relaxing and unwinding and with many different moods (themes) to choose from. No lyrics like rock albums that sometimes have lyrics you cant make out or understand.
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post #2 of 97
8/25/07 at 4:45pm

Re: movie soundtracks

I collect James Horner's film scores. Absolutely love his music.

Oh and it gets worse: I don't like John Williams or Hans Zimmer's music...I'm a leper in film music fandom.

Go ahead, mock me all you want.

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post #3 of 97
8/25/07 at 5:19pm

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I think some movies owe much of their greatness to the score/soundtrack. Films like Rocky (Bill Conti) and Batman (Danny Elfman) would not be nearly as memorable were it not for the music, and movies like Pulp Fiction and Boogie Nights were able to bring back forgotten or obscure -- but still great -- songs from the past to add a unique feel.
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post #4 of 97
8/25/07 at 9:07pm

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
I collect James Horner's film scores. Absolutely love his music.

Oh and it gets worse: I don't like John Williams or Hans Zimmer's music...I'm a leper in film music fandom.

Go ahead, mock me all you want.

James Horner is my favourite composer. I have over 80 of his scores. I love film music, it is my # 1 musical love (U2 are a close second)

I have 400+ scores and it is the most remarkable genre of music. I can taste any style and flavor the world over through film scores! But Horner is my clear favourite, with his scores for Aliens, Four Feathers, Glory and Wrath of Khan being my faves of his.

I could talk about film scores all day
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post #5 of 97
8/26/07 at 9:22am

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Seems you and I are kindred spirits, my friend...
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post #6 of 97
8/26/07 at 12:20pm
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Re: movie soundtracks

Nicholas:

I would not mock you, everyone has their own taste and dislikes. I happen to like James Horner too.

Neil:

I thougt I had alot of film scores, around 100 or so, but you certainly outdo me. My favourite part of Horner's Aliens is the music that plays as the Nostromo escape shuttle is drifting and found, also the alien action scenes.

Brian:

I think you are right about some albums resurecting oldies to our attention and re-discovery (like Quentin Tarantino does). I like Danny Elfman too, his Planet of the Apes score was great.

Forgot to mention John Barry's 13 great James Bond scores (the first seven films are the best, plus Moonraker- an album I had on vinyl when I was a kid).

I think Eric Serra has a flair for the strange (Fifth Element, Nikita, Professional).

Neil:

Besides Horner, what are some of your favourite album scores, titles?
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post #7 of 97
8/26/07 at 2:29pm

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
Seems you and I are kindred spirits, my friend...

Indeed - Nice to meet a fellow Horner fan!!
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post #8 of 97
8/26/07 at 2:34pm

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Originally Posted by keenwatcher
Nicholas:
Neil:

Besides Horner, what are some of your favourite album scores, titles?

Well, no music fan can call themselves that without having a good selection of Jerry Goldsmith in their collection

I love Philip Glass, John Powell, David Arnold (a fellow brit), Christopher Young, David Julyan (another Brit), alot of Marco Beltrami's work, John Williams and Hans Zimmer (sorry Nicholas) and a host of other great musical talents, like Howard Shore, Bernard Herrmann, Graeme Revell, Mychael Danna and more. But, when all is said and done, it is Horner that gets the most spins in my CD player (or whatever the equivilent saying is for listening to him on my iPod)
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post #9 of 97
8/26/07 at 3:55pm

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Originally Posted by Neil Middlemiss
I love Philip Glass, John Powell, David Arnold (a fellow brit), Christopher Young, David Julyan (another Brit), alot of Marco Beltrami's work, John Williams and Hans Zimmer (sorry Nicholas) and a host of other great musical talents, like Howard Shore, Bernard Herrmann, Graeme Revell, Mychael Danna and more. But, when all is said and done, it is Horner that gets the most spins in my CD player (or whatever the equivilent saying is for listening to him on my iPod)

Hey, no problem. Funny you mentioned David Arnold, since his score for Independence Day is my all-time favorite score. I don't have everything of his, but I had to, just HAD TO get the limited edition Godzilla complete score.

The only Zimmer music I can say I truly enjoy are The Simpsons Movie and Batman Begins, the latter of which grew on me the more I watched that fantastic film.

I have just about everything Horner's ever done, including my own recorded direct-from-broadcast samples of his CBS Evening News music. I edited together the complete theme from the various recordings I made of it. I love his music, know ALL ABOUT every ounce of controversy and criticism regarding it. Many people think I have a blind adoration of his music, but I know all the arguments, and I just don't care anymore about the bashers out there.
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post #10 of 97
8/26/07 at 4:55pm

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin
I have just about everything Horner's ever done, including my own recorded direct-from-broadcast samples of his CBS Evening News music. I edited together the complete theme from the various recordings I made of it. I love his music, know ALL ABOUT every ounce of controversy and criticism regarding it. Many people think I have a blind adoration of his music, but I know all the arguments, and I just don't care anymore about the bashers out there.

I am right there with you. If another person decides to trash a horner score because it contains his 4 note motif or peices lifted from his other scores, I don't know what I'll do. I love to hear him quote himself in different scores. For example, the strong theme from Searching for Bobby Fischer that he quotes in Bicentennial Man and again in A Beautiful Mind is a stunning peice of music that he presents differently each time and, in the context of the rest of the music from those scores, comes across very differently...I just love it!
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post #11 of 97
8/26/07 at 5:39pm

Re: movie soundtracks

keen,
you may like the Exotica OST by Mychael Danna.
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post #12 of 97
8/26/07 at 7:00pm

Re: movie soundtracks

My first soundtrack purchase was Bye Bye Birdie.
My most recent was Once.
I got swept up by the chemistry of the leads in "Once" singing songs they had written. After one listen to the CD I realized I really hated the music, go figure.
In the 44 years between those films there are many soundtracks in the collection.
One much loved piece that comes to mind is "Once Upon A Time In America".
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post #13 of 97
8/26/07 at 10:19pm

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Originally Posted by Neil Middlemiss
I love to hear him quote himself in different scores. For example, the strong theme from Searching for Bobby Fischer that he quotes in Bicentennial Man and again in A Beautiful Mind is a stunning peice of music that he presents differently each time and, in the context of the rest of the music from those scores, comes across very differently...I just love it!

While I can understand why people have serious issues with that, which I will NOT go into because there literally isn't anything more to say about it...it's subject that has been beaten to death, many people think I am this blind fanboy because I too love that he returns to certain musical phrases and such. The issue of classical borrowing is also a non-issue for me. I am completely aware of it, but I don't have the hang-ups most people do about it.
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post #14 of 97
8/27/07 at 2:47pm
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Re: movie soundtracks

Yes, I like Horner too, but dont yet have many of his cd's.

I liked the movies- Outland and Legend, so those would be on my list to get.

I have his excellent In Like Flint, Our Man Flint and Alien, Aliens scores.

James Newton Howard's new King Kong soundtrack is good, even though Peter Jackson replaced Howard Shore who worked with him on the LOTR.

Howard Shore is good.

There are many more I like, but as the majority of my scores are in storage out of state, I cant remember many, only mostly the ones I brought and listed above.

Happy to see that there are others out there who like collecting just as much as me, and more.
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post #15 of 97
8/28/07 at 8:53pm

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Originally Posted by keenwatcher
Yes, I like Horner too, but dont yet have many of his cd's.

I liked the movies- Outland and Legend, so those would be on my list to get.

I have his excellent In Like Flint, Our Man Flint and Alien, Aliens scores.

Out of those films listed, Horner only did ALIENS.

Jerry Goldsmith did every other film you listed.
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post #16 of 97
8/30/07 at 1:35pm

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Nicholas is quite right, even though a cue from Goldsmith's ALIEN score was used near the end of ALIENS, when the Queen has broken loose and is headed toward Ripley and Newt as they wait for the elevator...

Goldsmith really was a magnificant composer - the world is lesser for his loss.
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post #17 of 97
8/30/07 at 7:36pm

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And somehow some of Horner's ALIENS ended up in the end of "DIE HARD" most likely as temp music that was left in. I laugh whenever I hear it because I know that music so well. (the opening half of the cue 'Resolution and Hyperspace', ironically NOT heard in ALIENS at all )
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post #18 of 97
7/28/10 at 11:58am

I remember first realizing that Horner's music was in Die Hard and loving it. When I watch Die Hard now, I can't help but feel the Horner track is a little out of sync with the amazing score that Michael Kamen created. Excellent track, but just enough like the tone and flavor of what Kamen created for that film.

 

I wish that Kamen had been around to score HBO's The Pacific to see how he would follow up on his terrific Band of Brothers score.

 

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And somehow some of Horner's ALIENS ended up in the end of "DIE HARD" most likely as temp music that was left in. I laugh whenever I hear it because I know that music so well. (the opening half of the cue 'Resolution and Hyperspace', ironically NOT heard in ALIENS at all )


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post #19 of 97
7/29/10 at 6:14am

I love movie soundtracks, here are the ones I have:

Batman

Batman Returns

Batman Begins

The Dark Knight

All the Star Wars movies

All the Indy Movies

All the Star Trek movies (1-6) and including ST II and III Expanded.

Aliens

Field of Dreams (I think this is a VERY underrated score)

Jaws (Original and Expanded)

Jaws 2

ET

Ten Commandments

King of Kings

Lord of The Rings Trilogy (Original and Expanded)

Vertigo

North By Northwest

Babes in Arms

Strike Up The Band

Babes On Broadway

Girl Crazy

Wizard of Oz

Peter Pan

Pocohantas

Sleeping Beauty

Little Mermaid

Mary Poppins

Wyatt Earp

Twister

Close Encounters (original and expanded)

Father of the Bride

Pirates of the Carribean Trilogy

Rocky I,II,III,IV

 

Planning on getting Batman (Expanded) and Batman Returns (Expanded when it comes out)

 

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post #20 of 97
7/29/10 at 9:09am

Bob - Great collection. You have my all-time favourite score (Aliens) and one of James Horner's other most incredible scores (Field of Dreams).

 

Do you have the expanded edition of the Aliens score?

 

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Aliens

Field of Dreams (I think this is a VERY underrated score)



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post #21 of 97
7/29/10 at 6:42pm

If he doesn't have ALIENS: The Deluxe Edition, at the least if he picks up the new ALIEN Anthology he'll get to hear both the complete score as written, plus the butchered theatrical score isolated.

 

Since Horner is my all-time favorite composer, I've got and/or heard virtually everything he's ever done.

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post #22 of 97
7/30/10 at 12:31pm

Neil, yes I have the Aliens Deluxe Edition. Also I have How The West Was Won and Legend. Forgot to mention those. I also have Dr. Who  soundtracks, the new series (I know it's tv and not movies but I thought I'd mention it).

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post #23 of 97
7/30/10 at 1:47pm

Excellent.

 

Do you have the Tangerine Dream or the Jerry Goldsmith Legend?

 

And the Dr. Who soundtracks are easily some of the best TV scores (Bear McCreary's Battlestar Galactica is the very best IMHO), I have the scores for three of the recent series and I love how the main theme keeps evolving.
 

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Neil, yes I have the Aliens Deluxe Edition. Also I have How The West Was Won and Legend. Forgot to mention those. I also have Dr. Who  soundtracks, the new series (I know it's tv and not movies but I thought I'd mention it).



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post #24 of 97
7/30/10 at 5:30pm

I have the Tangerine Dream soundtrack. I know I'm in the minority but for some reason I haven't warmed up to Goldsmith's version. Maybe because I'm so used to listening to TD's version, Goldsmith's seems out of place. TD's soundtrack has that fantasy feel to it. It's strange how a soundtrack can completely change the way you experience a movie.

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post #25 of 97
7/31/10 at 12:15pm


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I have the Tangerine Dream soundtrack. I know I'm in the minority but for some reason I haven't warmed up to Goldsmith's version. Maybe because I'm so used to listening to TD's version, Goldsmith's seems out of place. TD's soundtrack has that fantasy feel to it. It's strange how a soundtrack can completely change the way you experience a movie.


I agree with you, Bob.  I loved both the movie and score upon their initial release back in 1986, and didn't get to hear any of Goldsmith's score until years after.  I love Goldsmith's score on its own, but I still think that the TD score works better in the film.  Goldsmith seemed to have a different vision of the film, one that didn't quite mesh with what eventually ended up on screen.  The longer Director's Cut with Goldsmith's score restored works pretty well, but I still get the impression that Goldsmith was writing for a more literal "fairy tale."

 

- Mark

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post #26 of 97
8/1/10 at 10:31am


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Originally Posted by Bob_S. View Post

I have the Tangerine Dream soundtrack. I know I'm in the minority but for some reason I haven't warmed up to Goldsmith's version. Maybe because I'm so used to listening to TD's version, Goldsmith's seems out of place. TD's soundtrack has that fantasy feel to it. It's strange how a soundtrack can completely change the way you experience a movie.


You're right, there are examples of Elmer Bernstein's rejected score for Gangs of New York put back into the movie on YouTube, compared to the release version with Howard Shore's music and some contemporary songs. It makes it a completely different movie. Bernstein's version is more of a reference to the epics of the Golden Age, while the other makes the movie more modern. Fascinating stuff.

 

For some reason I really enjoy movie soundtracks, while I cannot seem to get into classical music as much as I like. You would think they're not so different, but maybe it's just me. However, classical music that's been featured in movies, I can listen to. The bits and pieces of Mozart's work in Amadeus are wonderful. Perhaps I'm just familiar with those pieces?

As for favorite composers, they're many, and I like at least some scores of a lot of composers. I don't have many composers I truly dislike. Some work gets stale after a while, but then there's the one soundtrack that's magnificent. Hans Zimmer's work gets a bit predictable sometimes, but for example The Thin Red Line is an amazing piece of work.

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post #27 of 97
8/1/10 at 11:24am


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For some reason I really enjoy movie soundtracks, while I cannot seem to get into classical music as much as I like. You would think they're not so different, but maybe it's just me. However, classical music that's been featured in movies, I can listen to.


I am exactly the same way.

 

You would think that since I'm such a Horner nut that I'd be very much into classical music, since Horner has incorporated so much into his scores, but aside from seeking out the source for comparison/contrast, I still have no interest in listening to classical at all.

 

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post #28 of 97
8/2/10 at 2:55am

Could it be that you find yourself playing the movie in your mind as you listen to the soundtrack as opposed to picturing a conductor and a bunch of musicians? I find that to be the case with me.

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post #29 of 97
8/2/10 at 7:47am


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Could it be that you find yourself playing the movie in your mind as you listen to the soundtrack as opposed to picturing a conductor and a bunch of musicians? I find that to be the case with me.


That's not the case with me. I listen to soundtracks of movies I've never even seen before .

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post #30 of 97
8/2/10 at 10:11am

For me it depends on the score.

 

If it's for a film that featured such obvious and prominent music (at least to me), like a Batman or a Star Wars, then the film never leaves my mind when listening.

 

For the vast majority of Horner scores I have, I don't have that same sense of being tied to the film's images.

 

I enjoy film music, but I'm not really a soundtrack collector. I collect Horner's music because I want to hear everything he's done but it's not for the sake of 'collecting' at all. 80% of the music I've enjoyed from films stays in the films and not in my stereo, with some exceptions. I like the marriage between the image and music, so I'm not out to buy just anything with the word 'soundtrack' on it.

 

Plus, with all the video segments I've seen of composers conducting their orchestras as they score their films, that aspect is almost always there as well.
 

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