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I checked the toenail, the camera angle and curve of her toe almost made it out of view, but it was there and it was not painted with nail polish.

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post #242 of 947

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After mangling her fingers in the disposer, her fingernails grew back as well.
post #243 of 947

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Why wouldn't the toe nail grow back?

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post #244 of 947

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Well it's silly to nitpick something like this based on the presented abilities and physics in the show, but...

Aren't toenails/fingernails just accumulated dead tissue, similar to hair? Which is why it doesn't hurt to cut them?

I guess if her toenail grew back, then all her hair should instantly revive if she ever shaved her head.
post #245 of 947

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We've seen her hair grow back after she had it burned off by nuclear caveman.
post #246 of 947

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Originally Posted by Nelson Au
I checked the toenail, the camera angle and curve of her toe almost made it out of view, but it was there and it was not painted with nail polish.
I was looking for that too. I was VERY impressed that the new toenail didn't have any nail polish on it.
post #247 of 947

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The fact that her hair can grow back instantly, including after she walked out of the house fire, makes me think that her body doesn't so much as heal itself, but literally re-generate itself. Meaning, if her hair grows back to its previous length, that her body is always locked into one form, no matter what, cell by cell. That makes me wonder if she can even age?

What she should do with that toe is put it in a jar and see if it even decays. It's probably an immortal toe (unless Mr. Muggles ate it, as I suggested earlier, and maybe he's immortal now. Maybe if we all ate one of Claire's toes, we'd be immortal).

I wonder how her power differs (if at all) from what's-his-name in the 16th century?
post #248 of 947

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Is that pure speculation or something you've read? I hope the former, because as much as I'm not enjoying this segment so far, I didn't want the point of it spoiled.

If it turns out as you say, it will bring to mind an excellent issue of Ultimate X-Men. Brian Michael Bendis handled the situation you describe and came up with one of the best single issues of any comic book I have ever read.

Pure speculation my friend.
post #249 of 947

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Maybe if we all ate one of Claire's toes, we'd be immortal
20 different things spring to mind, none of them appropriate.

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post #250 of 947

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I guess if her toenail grew back, then all her hair should instantly revive if she ever shaved her head.

She's 18 now, right? Either way, probably I won't start the speculation about other hair regrowth.
post #251 of 947

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She's 18 now, right? Either way, probably I won't start the speculation about other hair regrowth.
Pubic hair regeneration? Really, Greg? Did we really need to go there?
post #252 of 947

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unless Mr. Muggles ate it, as I suggested earlier, and maybe he's immortal now.
If they could have Krypto in Superman comics, I think a super powered Mr. Muggles would work.
post #253 of 947

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Pubic hair regeneration? Really, Greg? Did we really need to go there?

Absolutely not, which is why I was clear that I would never, ever start such a discussion. Besides I meant her leg hair. And, boom! There's the answer. She doesn't have wooly mastodon legs, so now we know.
post #254 of 947

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whoever this assassin turns out to be, i hope they explain why both Mama Petrelli and Papa Nakamura didn't use their powers (if they still have have any or ever did) which we still don't know about. the death on the rooftop was particularly unspectacular. the guy just ran across the roof towards him an jumped. plenty of time for him to make a move in self defense...
post #255 of 947

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plenty of time for him to make a move in self defense...
To me, it seemed like he felt his number was up and there was no point in fighting. Whereas Angela seemed to fight against whatever was attacking her.
post #256 of 947

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whoever this assassin turns out to be, i hope they explain why both Mama Petrelli and Papa Nakamura didn't use their powers
There isn't much to explain. Not every power can be used for self-defense. Parkman, Micah, Molly and most relevantly Linderman would have been just as defenseless on that rooftop.

And of course, we don't know what the assassin is capable of, beside walking away from a 20 (?) story fall and somehow assaulting a person locked alone in room (assuming it's the same assailant).

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post #257 of 947

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You know, I always assumed that the assailant flew away after pushing Nakamura off the rooftop. Reading Holadem's last post made me realize that maybe he didn't. Maybe he hit the ground too... and maybe he regenerated.

Who else have we seen who can regenerate.... And who's symbol was drawn on those ripped photos... Hmmmmm......
post #258 of 947

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That symbol was the symbol we've always seen. It was explained last night, as promised by Loeb. "Godsend," Kensei's symbol. I believe Kaito is the one who brought the original group of heroes together, and it was his attraction to the Kensei legend that led him to choose the symbol to represent the group. The killer is basically announcing that he is a former ally of theirs gone rogue.
post #259 of 947

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I was pretty bored by this second episode.
They only thing I liked was Claire finding out she can regrow body parts.

I think the Wonder Twins are turning out to be another hated couple(Nikki and Paulo from Lost)

I sure hope things get interesting.
It just seems like things are being retold or memory refresh for the viewers.

I'm still holding strong though
post #260 of 947

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Actually, I was thinking of Kensai, too...as the bad guy. The question already came up about Claire...can she age? If she can't and is, essentially, immortal then Kensai clearly would be, too. She might be a wacky direct descendant of him, too. As in DIRECT. First gen. Maybe daddy Nakamura was telling Hiro all these stories so that he could go into the past to ensure that Kensai lived the life he was supposed to so that the present life could happen. Ugh! Crazy time travel! That said, I think Kensai is, if not the bad guy, the Source. I think he is the Original Mutant that spawns all the rest.

There, I said it.
post #261 of 947

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Is it just me, or did Kensai say something about next time as he lay "dying"? I thought his regeneration seemed like it did not start until after he "died". Or perhaps it was started when Hiro removed the arrow that hit his heart.
post #262 of 947

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Originally Posted by Jeff Cooper
You know, I always assumed that the assailant flew away after pushing Nakamura off the rooftop. Reading Holadem's last post made me realize that maybe he didn't. Maybe he hit the ground too... and maybe he regenerated.

Who else have we seen who can regenerate.... And who's symbol was drawn on those ripped photos... Hmmmmm......

I think the person did fly away, which leads me to think of Claire's stalker friend from school. Wasn't he wearing a hoodie when he was floating outside of Claire's home the first time ( I seem to remember him wearing one). So possibly the same hoodie the person who killed Hiro's father.

Just a guess.
post #263 of 947

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Originally Posted by Jeff Cooper
You know, I always assumed that the assailant flew away after pushing Nakamura off the rooftop. Reading Holadem's last post made me realize that maybe he didn't. Maybe he hit the ground too... and maybe he regenerated.

Who else have we seen who can regenerate.... And who's symbol was drawn on those ripped photos... Hmmmmm......

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I think the person did fly away, which leads me to think of Claire's stalker friend from school. Wasn't he wearing a hoodie when he was floating outside of Claire's home the first time ( I seem to remember him wearing one). So possibly the same hoodie the person who killed Hiro's father.

Just a guess.
Maybe "Hoodie" was not even on the rooftop with Nakamura?

Mama Patrelli and Papa Nakamura were both "targeted" by someone, when they both received photos of them selves with the symbol over their faces. Presumably this someone, is a rogue member of their original group, or at the very least a person with superpowers that they know.

From what we saw of Mama Patrelli's attack, the assailant may be able to project himself into a place in order to inflict physical damage or interaction.

If so, then what we saw of "Hoodie" on the roof, may just have been a mental projection of the mystery guy, that was able to physically push/carry Papa Nakamura over the roof, and then disappear.

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post #264 of 947

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Dave: Interesting idea.
post #265 of 947

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You know, I always assumed that the assailant flew away after pushing Nakamura off the rooftop. Reading Holadem's last post made me realize that maybe he didn't. Maybe he hit the ground too... and maybe he regenerated.
Well, I could have sworn I saw two bodies when Ando first looked down, but from all accounts there was only Nakamura's. The mind is tricksy...

So I guess he egressed before the fall, though not necessarily in some outworldly way – he could have just been a very good ninja (pirate?) or some such.

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If so, then what we saw of "Hoodie" on the roof, may just have been a mental projection of the mystery guy, that was able to physically push/carry Papa Nakamura over the roof, and then disappear.
Or it could just have been him appearing and dissapearing (simpler and therefore more likely)? This is the sort of stuff that drives Joe nuts -- I am surprised we haven't heard of Occam's Razor yet

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post #266 of 947

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I know this is really reaching, but I wondered if Papa Nakamura's would be killer is actually lying under Nakamura and cushioned his impact on the ground.

Or the killer, hooded guy, is really the invisible guy getting his revenge. You never see his face and he could have concievably slipped past guards and into the room with Mama Patrelli
post #267 of 947

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Claude (invisible man) was pretty tall if you ask me, and IIRC the chap on the rooftop was rather shortish.
post #268 of 947

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I know this is really reaching, but I wondered if Papa Nakamura's would be killer is actually lying under Nakamura and cushioned his impact on the ground.

Or the killer, hooded guy, is really the invisible guy getting his revenge. You never see his face and he could have concievably slipped past guards and into the room with Mama Patrelli

True, but wouldn't Parkman have heard his thoughts?
post #269 of 947

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Maybe Nakamura's power is the ability to leave an identical-looking dead clone of himself behind. Just sayin' maybe.
post #270 of 947

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Jeff above nailed it, I think. Kensai (the English one) is the villain in the future. My guess is he is somehow key to everyone's powers. We have discussed Claire potentially being immortal, now, so if Kensai had the same power, wouldn't he be, in essence, immortal? His symbol stamped on everything in the present also makes the case. He might be the REAL "Patient Zero" that Suresh talked about in Season One. He might have formed the last generation's Justice League with less than positive results and is now coming back to clean house. Hmmm...

That said, this season has me but mostly because of loyalty and hope that it picks up, and I don't mean in a "answer the questions!" sort of way, either. There is something missing from the narrative that I miss from last year. There isn't the impending urgency of the first season (NYC goes boom!) and I miss the Suresh philosophical intros/epilogues where he talks about destiny, the human condition and other stuff. I don't know why but those bookends, as cheesy as they might have been, really set the tonal feel for the show. It kind of tied things together even when, at first, there wasn't anything binding them.

Now the assumption is that we know the ties that bind so why talk about them? "What's in the Box!?!" phrase also lacks the cool "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" or even the later season "Are You On the List?" for catchphrases. It is the comic-booky feel of the first season that made it pretty special and I hope they recapture that feel at some point.
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