WHV Press Release: Tom and Jerry Spotlight Collection Volume 3 - Page 2

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I saw these spotlight sets as being the only way these toons would come out. With all the money Warners is putting into looney Tunes, popeye and what ever else, I would guess that they want to release the other series (t&J, Droopy) as they can to bring money in, not having to wait to have 50 cartoons ready to go before releaseing them

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Warners is making more money of these cartoons than any of the other series... that's a lazy excuse I say.

And as far as I'm concerned, the company still hasn't corrected nor addressed the issue with their first two sets. The replacement discs are worthless.

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Done in order , and released this way, i wold buy every set if done correctly

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I'd kill to own the entire MGM cartoon library restored.

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I have not watched the whole thing yet, but for some reason, the CinemaScope short "Pup on a Picnic" is cropped to a 16:9 ratio. I thought the one thing I could count on with this set was proper presentation of the "scope" titles.

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Oh for crying out loud. If these people hate classic animation so much, perhaps they should find a different line of work. I'm sure there are ample opportunities in the food service and office cleaning industries that would suit their talents.

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They should all be fired or worse, transfered to Paramount Home Entertainment, and each and every classic cartoon property seized and rescued to the hands of Geroge Feltenstein and Warners classic film division where they belong!

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This politically correct garbage is unacceptable, release *all* the cartoons on DVD uncut and unedited. If someone doesn't like them, too bad.

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Today at WalMart, I picked up this set, read on the back that line about how it's intended for the adult collector and may not be suitable for children, thought how they didn't trust the adults with some mildly insensitive racial material from over half a century ago, and PUT IT BACK ON THE SHELF, where it will remain.

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Well, sadly, we're going in the exact opposite direction in today's society. Instead it's "Let's bend over backwards to not offend any special interest group"

I blame society and this politically correct "Utopia" that some people seem to want so badly

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Screw that... blame Warner Bros.

It's not society's fault that the people running this family division are a bunch of uneducated monkeys.

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I just recently read that fear is the greatest motivator of all.

This decision was reached out of fear. In fact, I bet whoever made the final decision actually said, "If we release those two cartoons, I'm afraid that ...."

But afraid of WHAT? That WHAT will happen? I wish someone would say exactly what it is they're afraid of.

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They're afraid that an extremely small but vocal number of people will be offended and threaten a boycott or picket them (despite the disadvantage of not having any real number of people to do either one) and that the media will manufacture a story about it. I'm not talking about a civil rights group being offended, I'm talking about wackos who have nothing better to do than write 50 letters a day pretending to be 50 different offended people. Unfortunately, the media would talk to that one offended person and the resulting story would try to make Warners look they're the KKK.

It's a free country and people have the right to be offended but no sane person wouldn't try to start a boycott or picket Warners because of a 50 year old offensive Tom And Jerry cartoon but that's what they're afraid of. I've said it before, I hate blackface jokes but WB should leave it up to me to make the choice if I want to watch them or not (and I think any other normal person can make that same decision).

Amusingly, leaving the cartoons off this set has probably resulted in worse sales than any backlash that might have occured from the inclusion of the cartoons.

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Ken, I don't know if you've had a chance to watch the whole set yet, but on the first spotlight collection one of the 'scope toon's was in stereo and it was mentioned that 5-6 others also had elements for stereo - that would be used. As none of the cartoon's in vol. 2 were in stereo could you confirm whether any on this final set are as well?

Regards

M

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If memory serves, they are all DD 1.0 mono, but I will double check and correct this post if I find otherwise.

Regards,

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Besides a V chip, we need an EO chip (for people who are "easily offended.") Then they wouldn't have to watch these cartoons and the rest of us could.

Everyone hates and fears government censorship, but companies have the right to censor their own product. That still doesn't make it right because it allows a very, very small number of people (maybe only one person?) to decide what everyone else can see. (THEY watched the cartoons, and didn't turn into racists, didn't they? But they don't trust everyone else.)

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I wouldn't bet money on it Joe.

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http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...6&postcount=46

Same Above:

Tom & Jerry Spotlight Collection: Volume 3


Just spoke with a WB representative on the phone concerning Tom & Jerry Spotlight Collection: Volume 3, mostly about the miss framing issue on “Pup on a Picnic” and edited content on “His Mouse Friday” and ask if they were going to address this issue and send a replacement disc that was properly done.

The statement that I got was that they were receiving lost of call, lots of calls, so it is getting logged, then after mentioning the two mistakes that were on the current disc. I ask if they knew anything about the possibility, of them also including the 2 missing toons, the operator, stated that she had not heard any thing about that; but were getting a lot of calls concerning that as well.

I would be willing to actually get this set if these problems were fixed, and it seems that public out cry is the way to do it along with this forum and the many others that are animated related.

Originally WB balked at the idea of replacing disc for the first set, but then gave in and did the correct thing and offered replacement disc. This of course came after numerous complaints, and the mistakes of having similar issues with the second set as well. It was because of them correcting issues that I held this company in high regards. As all of us that are having issues with the new set know, the fans of these films, that are angry about the omissions and edits do have the right to complain, and playing devils advocate, mom and pop Wal-Mart are not going to care, or send off for a replacement, so either way if they offer a replacement that fixes the two problems and includes both of the missing toons then I will support this. Until then I guess I will just have to watch Woody, and Popeye again till LTGC V5 gets here.

Here is the number 1-800-553-6937, call and make your voice heard.

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What happened to the review Ken?

M

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Warner has not provided the HTF with any television or animation product to review since last April. I reviewed the Droopy set that I purchased myself, but since then, I've been focusing on reviewing the titles for which they actually provide us with screeners.

Regards,

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That says alot about this division of Warner Brothers. They are a disgrace in comparison to other divisions.

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I would not go that far, but we have had some communication issues with them which I hope we can iron out in the future.

Regards,

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Have any of the phone calls made a difference? Even for the internet "secret society" - deny retail buyers if you please, but give the internet moles what they neeeeed!

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I have all 3 WB Spotlight Collections. The quality may suffer a little, but I personally think they're first rate considering that some of the shorts come from as early as 1940. I personally don't think there's a thing to complain about.

I also have the WB release from Asia I believe of all 140 Tom & Jerry shorts. I purchased that back in 2003 and have taken the best care of it. It contains all 140 T&J shorts in chronological order. Am I the only one out there who owns this?

And keep in mind, these weren't originally even on television. They were released to theaters and drive ins as a feature before and between movies. I believe that all of the Hanna-Barbara shorts were released in that way.

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What do you mean, they've been syndicated on TV for the last fifty years...

They are not properly restored... the title cards don't even match and they are sloppily pasted on colored backgrounds... the quality is exactly identical to what currently broadcasts on Boomerang... they are using current TV prints that have not even been attempted at restoration or clean-up to any degree in any dept. despite the fact that these award-winning films are some of animation's most prestigious and ground-breaking works... the retail sets are badly edited... the corrected sets are DVNR'd and not progressively flagged... the replacement discs are, dare I say, unwatchable... jittery motions and breakup in action sequences, interlacing artifacts galore... they are worthless... the supplemental material is fluff and commentaries all garbage and useless (really, an actress on madtv is the most fitting candidate WB could locate to offer commentary on 1940s animation?)... despite promises in the order of a complete and comprehensive overview of the MGM years, films have been passed over and remain neglected... so if this is what you call "first rate" than please don't ever get a job in quality control.