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When I was in Kindergarten, we were given Balloons one afternoon, had them tied to our feet, and then we ran around the room trying to stomp out each other's balloons, with the victor being the one who survived with their balloon intact. To help assuage our disappointment that we had our perfectly serviceable balloons popped, we lined up and the teachers would make mini-balloons by puffing a bit of air inro the latex shreds and tying them off with a rubber band. I was the last one in line, and I can't remember the exact chain of events, but instead of receiving my mini balloon, I watched in horror as my teacher instead gave it away to a classmate of mine who already had her own mini balloon, she received my balloon so she could have a matching balloon for her DOLL! To this day I still remember how crushed I was by that experience. I tell you this so you may understand that you are dealing with a fifty year old 6'4" bald 250 pound hulk of a man who is basically a big old boob inside and has an amazingly difficult time at letting go of missed opportunity, especially when it should not have been missed.

That said, I attended the HTF Birthday party with my wife, although much of the time I spent with her out of concern because she was not feeling well, but she graciously consented to sitting on the couch and getting through so we could attend this event. We both gave our names at the door which was required for entrance, and we both gorged ourselves on some amazingly tasty tidbits which were being passed throughout the event by lovely young women and handsome young men. Although neither my wife and I drink liquor, we still took advantage of the hosted bars by trying every type of bottled water which has ever been produced, and by imbibing in the occasional Red-Bull. I almost crossed the line once and considered actually drinking a can of "Rockstar," but at the last moment I came to my senses and erred on the side of caution. I am, after all, still a father of two daughters and must set a proper example. How would it look to them if they saw their Daddy getting all hepped up on questionable energy shots, after all? I enjoyed the Hi-Def screens placed throughout the club and the titles which were presented on them, and had many a coversation with fellow members regarding Blu-Ray.

I joined with everyone else when we sang Happy Birthday to HTF and since my wife was in attendance, attempted to only gaze appropriately at the drop-dead gorgeous "Blu-Ray Girls" who accompanied the cake and made me want to be anything other than a fifty year old overweight bald techno geek who was gawking openly at girls younger than his daughters. I also joined with everyone else as we watched in horror as the normally unflappable Mr. Epstein threw one of the Blu-Ray girls to the ground and attempted to shotgun Heinekens with her, all the while, presumably fueled by his attendance at the Beatles "Love" spectacle, screaming at the girl at the top of his lungs "WELL YOU SAY IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY, WELL IT'S MY BIRTHDAY, TOO, YEAH!" I was one of the members who helped Ron up off the floor and lovingly restrained him by wrapping my EMA pass around his wrists and by gently whispering in his ear "Yes, Ron, you ARE the Walrus, and Paul is alive and well and dating young models."

I did notice a few bags on a table, but learning well from my mother that I shouldn't mess with anything that wasn't mine to mess with (a lesson my wife also reiterates to me on a daily basis), I didn't rifle through them. At the end of the event my wife and I even took several photos of the statutes that were throughout the club, especially being enamored of the many-armed bodhisattva Guan Yin. Coincidentally, Guan Yin is regarded as one of the foremost goddesses of compassion in Buddhist Lore, and the events of this particular HTF party left me in such a state of unrelenting sorrow and emptiness that I have since importuned her many a time on my behalf to help rid me of the aching and burning the HTF birthday party left me with, but after one particularly nasty session at Sunday School, I learned to keep my Guan Yin obsession to myself at church.

You might wonder why I was suffering so much. Imagine my surprise when I opened the daily EMA newsletter to find that all HTF attendees were given a Blu-Ray player and enough Blu-Ray titles to choke an ancient Asian Goddess of compassion. I say to my surprise, because to our knowledge neither my wife or I received the player or titles. I asked my wife to gauge my condition at the time and wonder if I was in such a Red-Bull haze that I was unable to appreciate that someone was trying to gift me with fantastic swag. She noted just the opposite, that the Red-Bull actually heightened my swag gathering abilities to the point that on the way home from the HTF party I had actually been able to amass a small fortune in Venetian Hotel cocktail napkins and Wolfgang Puck matchbooks, not to mention yet another very profitable pass through the convention floor's candy concessionaire's booth. (I just can't get enough of those "Nerds on a Rope.")

I frantically tried to reach Ron Epstein, but he was a bit hard to get hold of. (Some say it was because of his untiring work in organizing this event and making it so great for us, but I'm pretty sure I saw him in the wee morning hours on the dance floor of the Moon Club at the Palms trying to persuade an elderly female EMA conventioneer to put on a Blu-Ray T-shirt and sing Happy Birthday to him one more time.) By the time we talked, he reassured me I would still get the player because that was being submitted by a list he was preparing, but the titles had been given away to others. Remember, both my wife and I were attendees, so technically, there were two sets of titles given away to who-knows-who.

So now you know the rest of the story. I have tried to just let it go, but it eats at me like an intestinal wolverine ravenous for bald techno-geek guys guts. Did I have a fantastic experience at EMA. Absolutely! Am I grateful to Ron and company for the invite and experience? Absolutely! But do I also cry myself to sleep at night like a young girl just realizing that Justine Timberlake will never actually bring "sexy" back? Absolutely!

I am not fabulously wealthy like most HTF members all are. Don't try to pull the wool over my eyes, I saw you guys at the convention with your Digital SLR's with so many expensive lenses packed in the bag by your side that Venetian tourists mistook you for the leaning tower of Pisa. And I will also not name the forum member who actually owns the electronics outlet we buy from, and to to add insult to injury, is one of the most stinkingly nice and genuinely decent guys I met at the convention. I think it's common knowledge that Warner Brothers showed such a hearty appearance at our forum not because of our interest in all things home theater, but because they know the HTF membership is where they are going to find the funds for the "300" sequel, tentatively entitled "537" until they get the full funding for "600." I am not a rich guy (that's my story and I'm sticking to it) and the chances of me really putting my Blu-Ray player through it's paces are remote without having some titles to start with.

In the future, as a way of constructive criticism, when there is significant swaggage to give away, I would suggest attaching a name to it. Since we had to have our names on the list to enter the party, why not give the gift bags when to you then? At least some type of check-list could be used to assure that those who are meant to receive the SS (significant swaggage), will actually receive the SS. I still have to wonder who is walking around with both my wife's and my titles, because after all, somebody ended up with them. And no, I am not intimating Ron or anyone else with HTF is somehow doing something dastardly so they can keep the swag for themselves, I just don't see it in their nature.

I have no idea how we missed getting our bags, I have kicked myself over and over again trying to dissect the evening and figure out how that happened. All I know is that we were there, we gave our names, we spent a long time swigging fancy water and eating miniature hamburgers and shrimp tempura, we gawked at the Blu-Ray girls (correction, I gawked, my wife tried to ignore) we took pictures of Guan Yin and not once did we have any inkling we were supposed to be receiving a bag full of SS. And to top it off, I have to continuously see article and title postings that ALL attendees walked away with Blu-Ray titles. NO, TWO ATTENDEES DID NOT, and probably there are a couple of miniature hamburger passing out servers walking around Vegas right now saying, "Psssst, wanna see my Blu-Ray titles?"

I guess my personal decision between Blu-Ray and HD DVD will be made out of necessity, because I will be receiving some titles with my HD DVD player, and I will also be able to play my existing DVD's. Perhaps there is a lesson to be learned from that simple fact. All I know is, no matter how hard I try to divest myself of these images, every night as I drift off to sleep I find myself in an endless chase, trying to grasp the laughing, dancing Blu-Ray titles that surround and taunt me, and yet are forever just out of my grasp . . .

P.S. - ARE YOU LISTENING PANASONIC? IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO RECTIFY THIS TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE. I COULD EVEN PUT IN A GOOD WORD ON YOUR BEHALF WITH MY GOOD FRIEND MR. SPIELBERG! (Well, to tell the truth, it's my old college buddy Fred Spielberg, but I'm fairly sure he's at least one degree closer to Steven than I am)
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They were keeping a very tight rein on the gift bags at the Blu-Ray party...comparing attendee badges with names on their list and then crossing off the names of people that had already picked theirs up.
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I guess my personal decision between Blu-Ray and HD DTV will be made out of necessity
How did you get a High Def Direct TV Box?
All I got was a Blu-Ray Player and an HD-DVD Player
maybe next time

RayJr
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I stand corrected, I received HD DVD player just like you. Oh, I also received a Lamborghini Countach, too, though. Did you not get that?
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I also received a Lamborghini Countach, too
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I am not fabulously wealthy like most HTF members all are
I would guess that with that Lamborghini Countach, your wealth status has changed.


RayJr
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I am not fabulously wealthy like most HTF members all are
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I know you aren't talking about me, this was my vacation for the year, and Mr. SLR lens rented a bunch of them for this trip (discussed in another thread here). Most people there had only been able to afford one format. While I can't speak for everyone there, most of the attendees are hard working enthusiasts who enjoy movies and hated to see a format war because they can't afford both formats.

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In the future, as a way of constructive criticism, when there is significant swaggage to give away, I would suggest attaching a name to it. Since we had to have our names on the list to enter the party, why not give the gift bags when to you then? At least some type of check-list could be used to assure that those who are meant to receive the SS (significant swaggage), will actually receive the SS. I still have to wonder who is walking around with both my wife's and my titles, because after all, somebody ended up with them.

I understand your frustration, but please understand that we knew Blu-Ray was throwing a party, we didn't know they were giving away SS. I figured there would be a goodie bag, but didn't know for sure that there would be one, or have any idea that it would be that good. There was a name tied to the players. I had to give my name, show ID, and then they put a player certificate in the bag of movies. There were some other "real" press people there who just got the movies, only our group got the players. I don't know where the extra bags of movies went, I am assuming that our hosts took them.

We (HTF, Bits, TV shows on DVD) have no control over what swag our sponsors give us or how they give it out. Ron may be able to do something about the player, but it's not his call, it's Panasonic's.
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I am not fabulously wealthy like most HTF members all are. Don't try to pull the wool over my eyes, I saw you guys at the convention with your Digital SLR's with so many expensive lenses packed in the bag by your side that Venetian tourists mistook you for the leaning tower of Pisa.

Ouch. As Adam says those wonderful lenses were both rentals, my $350 workhorse is the Tamron 28-75 F2.8 XR DI, the best bang for the buck lens on the market. This was my first vacation since the HTF trip to LA, and I had to scrimp and save for both trips and my camera. I'm just a simple engineer and occaissional teacher, volunteer fireman, blogger, amateur photographer and a lot of other hats none of which pay the bills but make me very happy with the life I lead.

I understand you were going for humor but a lot of your thread bordered on hurtful to a lot of the people, and I find what you wrote about Ron bordering on completely innapropriate.

Despite that, I know what it's like to be disappointed, and, if it will make you happy I'll gladly give you all ten disks I got that night. I'ts not the same as a free deck I'm sure, but my generosity has to have some limits. =)

If you want em, send me a PM I'll send em to you right away. I'm tied up watching a lot of the kick ass content Universal has put out lately and which HTF has been generous enought to funnel my way, so share the wealth I say.

Sam
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Originally Posted by Lawsmith
By the time we talked, he reassured me I would still get the player because that was being submitted by a list he was preparing
Gift horse. Mouth.

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Originally Posted by Sam Posten
If you want em, send me a PM I'll send em to you right away.
You're a generous soul, Sam. Personally, I think your generosity is being abused.

(For the record, I did not attend EMA and have no direct knowledge of what transpired at the Blu-ray event. I only know that all the other attendees managed to notice there were gift bags.)

M.
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I don't think there was an official announcement that the gift bags were being given out. I only know that I went in the restroom, and when I came out a few minutes later I saw people pulling Blu-Ray discs out of bags. I asked a couple of people where they got the bags and they pointed a a table directly next to the entrance to the room. There were so many people in the club with the Blu-Ray bags, I would think it would be hard to overlook.
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Originally Posted by Michael Reuben

I only know that all the other attendees managed to notice there were gift bags.

M.

I can attest to that. I lost my wallet and went through hours of hell on the phone with my credit card company (the idiots at WaMu canceled the one credit card that I still had, in spite of my making a really big deal about it being my only saving grace!)

So, I ended up getting to the party just shortly before it was supposed to end. I asked someone if I missed much of anything aside from the obvious partying. He said that there had been h'orderves. I was a bit disappointed that I'd missed them, since I was penniless (actually, I had about 65 cents) and they would possibly be my only dinner for the evening. A bit later, I found a few cold (but tasty) tiny burgers (Whatever they're called. Forgive my ignorance).

Almost as an afterthought, he mentioned that they'd given out a bag with about five Blu-Ray discs in it. He pointed out the area where the bags were and I got one, after giving the necessary ID (glad they didn't ask for a driver's license), along with a manila envelope that the attractive young woman gave me (as she gave me the envelope, she said something about it possibly making up for my missing wallet). Of course, it turned out that there were actually 10 discs in the bag.

I didn't open the envelope until a half an hour or so later. Wow! What a surprise! I was wondering what to do about having 10 discs and nothing to play them on! Kind of made up for losing my wallet, though I was still stuck with no money and no gas in my tank (my car's tank, that is). I was able to fill up my personal tank at a few events that happened later that evening.

Fortunately, I was able to get money the next day (though WaMu certainly made it more difficult than necessary) and made it home. Whew! Side note: I've now replaced all of my lost cards.

Thank you Sony and everyone else who's responsible for such a generous gift. Also, thanks to all involved for the entire show! It was an interesting experience and well worth the loss of a money-loaded (if you call $85 loaded) wallet.

Kento
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Ah I see I misread that part Michael. It could have used with a few extra blank spaces to break the paragraphs up. Glad to see Nyle won't miss out on the free deck.

Anyway, my offer still stands, if it makes Mr. Lawsmith's life complete to have the ten BDs he missed out on, I'm glad to help out. =) I'm literally months behind in watching the movies I've actually purchased on my own dime with the awesome new releases I'm fortunate enough to get a crack at, and HTF has been VERY good to me over the years so, as I said, I'm happy to share the wealth.

Sam
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Kent, wish you had posted something during the event, I dont think anyone at HTF was aware of the dire straights you were in during EMA, and had we known I'm sure there are things we could have done to help ya through it. Glad it all turned out alright in the end.

One thing I have to say is that it was a LOT harder to meet folks at the EMA event that at Hollywood or Scooterpalooza. On one hand it was awesome to catch up with old friends but on the other our events were so constrained by schedule that there really wasn't a time we could just hang out among ourselves and HTF-geek out and meet folks who were first timers. In the past we have had private dinners at larger chain restaurants and formal closing ceremonies and the like, and those events are killer for really making new contacts. Not complaining mind you, just a thought for the next go around.

Sam
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One thing I have to say is that it was a LOT harder to meet folks at the EMA event that at Hollywood or Scooterpalooza. On one hand it was awesome to catch up with old friends but on the other our events were so constrained by schedule that there really wasn't a time we could just hang out among ourselves and HTF-geek out and meet folks who were first timers. In the past we have had private dinners at larger chain restaurants and formal closing ceremonies and the like, and those events are killer for really making new contacts. Not complaining mind you, just a thought for the next go around.

Sam-
We heard this loud and clear. Look for it to be corrected next time.
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Originally Posted by Michael_K_Sr
I don't think there was an official announcement that the gift bags were being given out. I only know that I went in the restroom, and when I came out a few minutes later I saw people pulling Blu-Ray discs out of bags. I asked a couple of people where they got the bags and they pointed a a table directly next to the entrance to the room. There were so many people in the club with the Blu-Ray bags, I would think it would be hard to overlook.

Michael,

I was looking for the restroom and as I headed out the door someone thought I was leaving the party and told me to be sure to get my bag of goodies. So I went over to the table and showed them my ID and got my bag and envelope. I was pretty happy to get the DVDs and then Ron told me that I'd like the contents of the envelope even more. Needless to say, I was blown away by what was in the envelope!

Pretty soon everyone was talking about it, and it never occurred to me that someone might leave the party without knowing what was being given away.
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Originally Posted by Lawsmith
When I was in Kindergarten,. . .

O.K. I formally yield the Home Theater Forum Loquaciousness Award to Lawsmith. Your nom de plume should be "Wordsmith." I am not worthy!



Seriously, if that (endless) post was Tongue in Cheek then it's one of the funniest thing I've read all day, especially since a lot of people took the bait. But if you were serious about it then you have more immediate problems than a couple of missing goodies bags.

Echew Obfuscation!


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Look at the bright side. If he's serious, then the therapy will be a piece of cake since he has already identified the root cause.

Although I'd be disappointed if I didn't get the goody bag too, so I can't really blame him.
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Originally Posted by nolesrule
Although I'd be disappointed if I didn't get the goody bag too, so I can't really blame him.

Yes and no. It's not like this was a state secret concerning the swag being given out at the Blu-ray party. If he didn't see this then he should be disappointed in himself, not in the fact that he didn't get the bag. The whole thing is so ludicrous that I have to feel that the very long posting was done in a humorous manner. If not, then that's a much different kettle of fish.

At this point I'm choosing to take the high (humorous intent) road in this matter.
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I havent gotten any PMs so maybe it was... Dunno. Offer's still out there 100%.
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Originally Posted by RAF
It's not like this was a state secret concerning the swag being given out at the Blu-ray party.

That's sort of what I was getting at with my "Credit Card Horrors" tale. Thanks to making over two hours of various phone calls to my bank in regard to lost cards and an unlost (new word) card that they ended up stupidly blocking (and couldn't unblock), I ended up running to the party and getting there about five minutes before it was supposed to end (about 5:53, if I remember correctly). Fortunately, I asked someone about what I'd possibly missed, figuring that someone from Sony may have made a semi-interesting speech or some such thing. So, even though I got there at the last minute, I still found out about the bag and they still had quite a few and I still got one.

Also, fortunately, even though the party was basically over and the bar was closed, one of the waiters there went beyond the call of duty and managed to get me a cola to drink. He also told me that there was a WaMu Bank in the area and how to get there. He also mentioned that Nevada was extra bad when it comes to identity fraud, so I might have quite a bit of trouble getting money from the bank without any ID, which mentally prepared me for the bank hassle that was to come. Thank you, whoever you are! Someone also pointed out a few of those mini-burgers sitting on a tray that she was about to take away. I felt well taken care of during those last few minutes (and beyond) of the party.

Of course, if I'd gotten there fairly much on time, perhaps I never would have asked anybody anything (I'm rather shy) and wouldn't have found out about the bag. Quite a few people were walking around with them, though. Was there any sort of announcement about them earlier on? I can definitely understand the frustration of being there and yet not getting the goodies. Pays to risk being a bit annoying, I suppose.

Anybody know anything about the movie "Waiting..."? I've never heard of it, yet there it is in Blu-ray!

I make up for my shyness by rambling on and on in my posts. :-)

Toodles;
Kento
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In case anyone is not sure, the entire piece was written tongue in cheek and as in all humor, some like it, and some do not. I do want to make a few things clear, though.

First, I have nothing but the highest regard for Ron, I think what he has accomplished borders on the miraculous, and I am very grateful to have been involved in EMA. My comments regarding his actions with the Blu-Ray girls stemmed from several photos I took where Ron looked as if he wanted to be ANYWHERE else other than standing by those girls in front of everyone

Second, I did receive the player, I just missed out on the discs. Ron was instrumental in making sure that happened.

Third, any remarks regarding the wealth of fellow HTF members was also done with humor, I believe that the members I met on this trip were all great people, and I have no idea what their personal net worth is, and I wrote the piece with full knowledge that your lens were rented, Sam. By the way, when I met you, you were extremely generous with some important info I needed at the time, and went out of your way to help me, and I think you represent the best of what HTF members have to offer each other. I wouldn't think of accepting your offer on the titles, but I am sure you were genuine in making it.

Fourth, as regarding my need for therapy, I would think it is obvious by this post just how desperately I am in need of it, lots of it, for years on end.

Fifth, I am sure everyone will be happy to note that I have finally grasped the "a few extra spaces" concept to make my posts more readable. Trust me and be forewarned, there will be more posts . . .
post #21 of 24

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Cool all around. Enjoy the deck!
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Originally Posted by Lawsmith
In case anyone is not sure, the entire piece was written tongue in cheek and as in all humor, some like it, and some do not.
Brevity is the soul of wit.

M.
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ROFLMAO.
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Man that is one hell of a story. From the look of the posts at least they were giving out something.
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