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post #61 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:24am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

[coronation party]With Fox out of the picture, all hail Warner Bros. as the new King of the Double-Dippers.[/coronation party]
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post #62 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:42am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

Hopefully I get my discount on this title and I'll have it. If not, I'll probably hold out for a Blu-ray special edition.

I don't doubt both HD versions have 16-bit TrueHD, because I don't believe WB ever does higher than that, kind of like how they wouldn't go above 384 DD on DVD. You can't go by HiDef Digest, though. They consistently get the bit depth of the TrueHD tracks wrong. They kept saying Ghost Rider was 16, when it's really 20.

If there's a slight difference in the TrueHD and PCM tracks, it just mans DialNorm was applied, also a regular for WB titles, so it'll be good to have the PCM on the Blu-ray.
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post #63 of 142
7/31/07 at 9:12am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

The thing about 300 is it looks like both the HD DVD and BD versions are missing out on some extras and goodies.

I was looking through the paper this morning and the HD DVD version is $30, BD is $25, but the Best Buy DVD edition comes with an extra disc of content and a mini Helmet (like they did with V) for $35.

Other than the blue screen thing are all of the special features like making of on both BD and HD DVD?

Until recently I only had a upscaling DVD player but now I also have a PS3 but I do not have any BD's yet. Thinking this afternoon I might pick up 300 on BD.
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post #64 of 142
7/31/07 at 9:23am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

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Originally Posted by Jari K
What are exactly those "irrational beliefs" and what are those "technical facts"?

IB: inceasing the bitrate used on a VC-1 transfer beyond what was used will produce a better or more faithful transfer, simply b/c BRD allows for a higher peak or average bitrate.

TF: every lossy codec has a ceiling beyond which increasing the bitrate will have no audible or visible effect. There is no evidence to support that transfers are being done below this ceiling to fit onto HD-DVD, and thus BRD owners are being shortchanged because a better version is possible.
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post #65 of 142
7/31/07 at 9:27am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

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but the Best Buy DVD edition comes with an extra disc of content and a mini Helmet (like they did with V) for $35.

As far as I know, the BB exclusive is a Spartan helmet and some trading cards, NOT an extra disc.

From the Weekly specials in the Coupons Dept:

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We start things off this week with an EXCLUSIVE LIMITED EDITION OF 300 @ Best Buy! The set includes the same two discs as the SE…but also includes a Spartan Helmet Replica and four collectible art cards. All items on-pack. Minimum 15 sets per store. No rain checks
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post #66 of 142
7/31/07 at 10:25am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

Wow, I posted in this thread without really reading it for a couple of days. I'm not going to give anybody a sermon now, but we will not tolerate any further discussion about "blu-ray bigots". If anybody wants to continue such rhetoric then do it on some other site. I've prune this thread and any attempt to redirect this discussion into that area again will result in immediate disciplinary action.

Furthermore, I would appreciate it, if members report any post that uses such rhetoric in the future. Thank you.





Crawdaddy
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post #67 of 142
7/31/07 at 5:17pm

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

ouch, guess i missed something
probably get the hd dvd because of the extras.
sure wish BB had the helmet on the hi def discs too,
i,m not crazy enough to buy both the $35 sd and the $22 hd dvd of this.
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post #68 of 142
7/31/07 at 5:38pm

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

So I picked up the Blu Ray and am playing on my PS3. I can't figure out with my Denon which of the audio tracks is the Dolby True HD. The audiotracks arent labeled and my receiver displays DD on tracks 1,2. I think track 3 is PCM (4 & 5 are the other languages) and 6 is commentary.

Anyone know if it's okay for my receiver to be on Bitstream for TrueHD -- I'm running HDMI from the ps3 to the Denon.

thanks
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post #69 of 142
7/31/07 at 6:00pm

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

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Originally Posted by Tino
You said it Cees. I fortunately have both, so I'm a happy camper.
Is life wonderful as a dual format owner.
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post #70 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:06pm

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

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Originally Posted by ppltd
Is life wonderful as a dual format owner.

I'm beginning to wonder. It's pathetic, but you wouldn't believe how long I sat in the store debating on which version to pick up.
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post #71 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:09pm

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Originally Posted by TonyD
sure wish BB had the helmet on the hi def discs too,
How big is the helmet? I'm not expecting life sized but if it's on pack, wouldn't it only be about the size of my hand?
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post #72 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:34pm

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The movie looks really great in HD.

Has anyone played the game? Let me just say that if I was the last line of defense, Greece would have fallen.
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post #73 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:42pm

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I got the Blu-ray on order. Amazon snail mail, see it next week. Hey, what can i say, 3 bucks is 3 bucks! I can eat at McDonalds on it. Not that i would.
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post #74 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:51pm

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I'm beginning to wonder. It's pathetic, but you wouldn't believe how long I sat in the store debating on which version to pick up.

Being diametrically opposed to the Combo Format does make life simplier at times.
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post #75 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:57pm

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

Are people still saying that the BR version contains 24 bit TrueHD?
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post #76 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:58pm

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Originally Posted by Michel_Hafner
Shot on 35mm.
Thanks!
Where did you find that info from? I tried last night & couldn't get anything on photography. :-(

Anyone have any idea where the artificial grain rumour got started???
Thanks.
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post #77 of 142
7/31/07 at 8:59pm

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Originally Posted by Romar Armas
Are people still saying that the BR version contains 24 bit TrueHD?
Not that I know of.
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post #78 of 142
7/31/07 at 9:36pm

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"How big is the helmet?"

Travis, I would say it was about 3 and a half inches tall, mounted on a small base. Not very impressive.
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post #79 of 142
7/31/07 at 9:38pm

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Originally Posted by Ed St. Clair
Thanks!
Where did you find that info from? I tried last night & couldn't get anything on photography. :-(

Anyone have any idea where the artificial grain rumour got started???
Thanks.

I think the grain was exaggerated in the digital grading process.

Doug
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post #80 of 142
8/1/07 at 12:34am

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Originally Posted by Jari K
Some wild, but interesting rumors:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...y_Re-Issue/828

"Deborah Snyder, the film's executive producer (and wife of '300' director Zack Snyder) revealed at a Comic-Con panel last week that indeed an in-movie experience feature for the Blu-ray edition of the film wasn't yet ready for this week's release. Later, according to an article in Home Media Magazine, she went further, saying "I think there's going to be another Blu-ray special edition later on."

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/new...ticle_ID=10969

Some more here:
http://www.digitalbits.com/

"The first part of the event was used to promote the DVD and high-def release of 300 (in stores today). What was most interesting about this, was that director Zach Snyder was asked by someone in the audience about the HD-DVD version vs. the Blu-ray version, and if he had a preference between them.

Snyder was diplomatic as he answered and spoke about the HD-DVD's picture-in-picture feature, but he wasn't exactly gushing either: "I don't know... it's kinda cool. I think. I don't know if the verdict's in..." Then the film's producer, Deborah Snyder (and Zach's wife, who was also on the panel), said that ******they were working on a more elaborate IME for the Blu-ray, which was going to have storyboards and production artwork in addition to the bluescreen footage*****."
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post #81 of 142
8/1/07 at 12:59am

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Jari,

You can link to other sites. But will you please reduce the verbatim quotes here.
Especially if it contains complete nonsense like "I definitely saw a few eyes go wide in shock, let me tell you".
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post #82 of 142
8/1/07 at 1:09am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

Got it Cees. This wasn´t intentional, I just copy-and-pasted part of the text. I did some editing now, though.

I just feel that this is a major rumor. Perhaps Blu-ray re-release (*IF* it´s coming) of "300" will be the first release for the "full" BD-J... Hope hope.
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post #83 of 142
8/1/07 at 1:43am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

Jari,

Although my "nonsense" comment was meant in a light-hearted way, the main reason we ask this as a general policy is copyright issues. We don't want those.


(BTW, the sly accusation of Warner reps (as being in favour of HD DVD somehow), and the way it is presented, reminds me of a recent report at another site about an EMA panel. Appeared to be utterly biased, false and incorrectly suggestive.)

I couldn't find the article following your link. Who was the author?


Cees
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post #84 of 142
8/1/07 at 1:53am

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Originally Posted by Cees Alons
I couldn't find the article following your link. Who was the author?

It´s on the front page of Digitalbits and the report is from Bill Hunt.

The other link is from some other person from the 300/Blade Runner event in "Comic-Con".

These quotes are from Deborah Snyder, not from WB. So again, far from official of course. But interesting, I would say.
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post #85 of 142
8/1/07 at 5:00am

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Originally Posted by ppltd
Is life wonderful as a dual format owner.

It is
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post #86 of 142
8/1/07 at 7:26am

Re: A few words about...™ 300 -- in HD & BD

I'm getting the blu-ray version since it is cheaper and I do not care about the added extras on the hd-dvd version.

Nice to be a dual format owner.
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post #87 of 142
8/1/07 at 8:48am

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I think it's ridiculous that they don't have the bluescreen pic-in-pin on the Blu-Ray version. It's clearly winning the format war, yet they give the feature to HD-DVD. Should be on both imo.
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post #88 of 142
8/1/07 at 8:50am

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^
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post #89 of 142
8/1/07 at 9:19am

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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette
^

My thoughts too. Want a little butter Paul?
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post #90 of 142
8/1/07 at 9:54am

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Originally Posted by Jari K
Snyder was diplomatic as he answered and spoke about the HD-DVD's picture-in-picture feature, but he wasn't exactly gushing either: "I don't know... it's kinda cool. I think. I don't know if the verdict's in..." Then the film's producer, Deborah Snyder (and Zach's wife, who was also on the panel), said that ******they were working on a more elaborate IME for the Blu-ray, which was going to have storyboards and production artwork in addition to the bluescreen footage*****."

More BD promises for the future. The HD DVD works great and is in stores now.
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