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post #31 of 148
7/26/07 at 11:19am

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

Double post.
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post #32 of 148
7/26/07 at 11:24am

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

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Originally Posted by Bradley-E
We have not heard what Universal has planned for the Holiday Season. It is E.T.'s 25th Aniv this year. I doubt they would let this milestone pass without doing something special. How about a counter-attack of releasing E.T. on HD DVD same day Sony releases Close Encounters on Blu Ray?

Spielberg controls E.T. not Universal.

Doug
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post #33 of 148
7/26/07 at 11:25am

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

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Originally Posted by paidgeek
We have a relationship with the Spielberg team and they are involved in the release of CE3K. They are also aware of that we are releasing multiple versions using seamless branching. The original master had some issues, but our asset management department has been putting in many hours to get everything out of it there is to get. Suffice it to say that making sure that Steven is happy with the results is an absolute priority.

So this is the 2001 transfer not a new master of the film elements? That has me a little worried. I never thought the 2001 DVD looked as good as it should have.

Doug
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post #34 of 148
7/26/07 at 11:32am

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from Paidgeek, the Sony insider:

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We have a relationship with the Spielberg team and they are involved in the release of CE3K. They are also aware of that we are releasing multiple versions using seamless branching. The original master had some issues, but our asset management department has been putting in many hours to get everything out of it there is to get. Suffice it to say that making sure that Steven is happy with the results is an absolute priority.

Additional note:

Some of you might wonder why I have not discussed this title earlier. I know most of you are strong supporters of Blu-ray and would like this sort of information before it breaks in the press, but please understand that our relationship with film talent takes precedence over all else. This project was carefully prepared for approval and we did not want to jump the gun before getting it. Witness the folly of others who have bypassed important steps like this....

Sounds like Spielberg is on board with this release... a good thing for his movies as far as Hi-def is concerned!

dave
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post #35 of 148
7/26/07 at 1:18pm

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

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Originally Posted by Jeff Adkins
True, but he was involved in this. Here's some info from paidgeek, Sony insider:



EDIT: Sorry, didn't realize this quote had already been posted in another thread.
I know he was involved with it because if you check my post with the link and quote, you will see that Spielberg did a special interview just for this release.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...86&postcount=7




Crawdaddy
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post #36 of 148
7/26/07 at 1:23pm

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

$49.99 MSRP? Come on. For that price it had better be a restored edition. I might have to take a wait and see approach for something that much.
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post #37 of 148
7/26/07 at 1:33pm

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Originally Posted by Jordan_E
$49.99 MSRP? Come on. For that price it had better be a restored edition. I might have to take a wait and see approach for something that much.
It's probably that price because the disc has three "versions using seamless branching."

paidgeek saying that "The original master had some issues, but our asset management department has been putting in many hours to get everything out of it there is to get", also sounds promising.

Paul
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post #38 of 148
7/26/07 at 1:36pm

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Originally Posted by Jordan_E
$49.99 MSRP? Come on. For that price it had better be a restored edition. I might have to take a wait and see approach for something that much.
Expensive indeed, but you have all three versions of the film and nobody said this hobby was going to be inexpensive, especially without these optical formats achieving mass market penetration. If this wasn't my favorite film from 1977, I might refrain from buying it, but I love this great film.
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post #39 of 148
7/26/07 at 2:37pm

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
and nobody said this hobby was going to be inexpensive

You don't have to tell me, I've been around since the LD days when I wouldn't blink at paying those prices for the Criterion Halloween release, but I was young, dumb, and full of...expendable cash in those days. I think online renting has changed my buying habits where I will maybe buy 1 new HD disc a month than the 5-7 DVDs a month back in the day.
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post #40 of 148
7/26/07 at 2:57pm

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The criterion CAV set had both the '77 cut and the 1980 cuts accessible thru some very clunky branching (you had to program in the specific chapters for each side before you played it...and they gave a 'key' sheet of the correct chapter order for each version.
I paid $125 (in 1991 dollars) and I treasured that set. Probably all the moreso because it was so expensive, thus making it a privilge to own.
$50 msrp is going to be $35 from Amazon, and even less if you still have your 10% discount.
For the finest version possible of this great film-for a comprehensive set that includes the original cut- the cost here is peanuts.

I'll be thrilled to buy this all over again. Here's hoping they don't muck it up trying to make it look too pretty or too PS3 crowd friendly.
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post #41 of 148
7/26/07 at 3:16pm

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Originally Posted by Jordan_E
You don't have to tell me, I've been around since the LD days when I wouldn't blink at paying those prices for the Criterion Halloween release, but I was young, dumb, and full of...expendable cash in those days. I think online renting has changed my buying habits where I will maybe buy 1 new HD disc a month than the 5-7 DVDs a month back in the day.
Since, this film is apparently not important enough for you to purchase then I guess there is nothing else to discuss with you in that regard.
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post #42 of 148
7/26/07 at 3:19pm

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Originally Posted by Paul_Scott
For the finest version possible of this great film-for a comprehensive set that includes the original cut- the cost here is peanuts.

I'll be thrilled to buy this all over again.
That's how I feel about it.




Crawdaddy
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post #43 of 148
7/26/07 at 3:57pm

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

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Originally Posted by Paul Hillenbrand
paidgeek saying that "The original master had some issues, but our asset management department has been putting in many hours to get everything out of it there is to get", also sounds promising.

Paul
Ok, someone correct me if I am misunderstanding this, but how can this statement not be seen as negative, if not incredibly negative? Why is Sony using a dated master? Does this mean that they are going to filter/process the image in order to arrive at "good" quality? Hopefully someone will tell me that I am misreading this situation.
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post #44 of 148
7/26/07 at 4:05pm

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

Jarod,

we should get confirmation about that from Paidgeek... the same thing went thru my mind. I'm assuming what he means by "original" master is the master prior to digital-cleanup, not the "old legacy" master as was the case with T5E debacle.

I'll let you know if he clarifies this point.
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post #45 of 148
7/26/07 at 6:31pm

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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet
Jarod,

we should get confirmation about that from Paidgeek... the same thing went thru my mind. I'm assuming what he means by "original" master is the master prior to digital-cleanup, not the "old legacy" master as was the case with T5E debacle.

I'll let you know if he clarifies this point.

That or is he referring to the actual Original Camera Negative? If they are using the transfer from the 2001 release I'll be very disappointed. I've always felt that that transfer could use much improvement. The source film is very dirty and has almost unacceptable gate weave.

If on the other hand he is talking about the O neg as the "master", and they are doing an actual restoration, thats another story.

Doug
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post #46 of 148
7/26/07 at 6:39pm

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
Since, this film is apparently not important enough for you to purchase then I guess there is nothing else to discuss with you in that regard.

You got that right.
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post #47 of 148
7/27/07 at 7:36am

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

This is great news and here's hoping it has awesome quality and does well in sales and it gets Spielberg (and the studios, etc) to release some of the other big titles like Jaws, JP, etc.

As for the cost...If 35 is too much for 3 versions of a film along with features then I dunno what to say...eat out less once a month and there is your 35 bucks...or don't buy as much beer, etc. I chuckle when people act like disc prices are high because I know for a fact most humans spend a bundle on trivial things like eating out, beer, smokes, etc that they could cut back on and help cover their disc buying sales. It's all about putting things into context and looking at one's whole spending habit.

Whatever the case, I am giddy to pick this disc up.
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post #48 of 148
7/27/07 at 7:39am

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Given Sony's recent Blu-ray track record, I'm planning on this to look and sound quite good given its age. Sony is not going to drop the ball on such a big Spielberg title.
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post #49 of 148
7/27/07 at 7:57am

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I give it a all of the way. Not a steep price at all for what is being included in this release.
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post #50 of 148
7/27/07 at 11:50am

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$50 is a bargain for three high-def versions of Steven Spielberg's best film (I know as a thrifty consumer I shouldn't say that, but as an excited film buff I can't help myself). This will be the crown jewel of my high-def collection when it's released.

The USA Today article mentions a "retrospective documentary." Wonder if this will be new, or just a port of the doc on the DVD release.

--Jefferson Morris
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post #51 of 148
7/27/07 at 3:52pm

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Well, this is a must buy for me. Strange that I have the DVD sitting on my shelf and I just never got around to watching it. I guess that was a good choice because now I get to enjoy it in full HD with lossless sound.
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post #52 of 148
7/27/07 at 5:59pm

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

But to be fair regardless of his tone, he is right. I can't think of a single classic that Sony has released on Blu-ray. In fact off the top of my head I can't think of a film that Sony has released that is older than about 7 or 8 years.

Having said that I'm very glad to see that they are jumping in with a great classic like Close Encounters. I'm hoping that this is a new transfer from the O neg and not the less than stunning 2001 transfer.

Doug
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post #53 of 148
7/27/07 at 7:22pm

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Give it time, give it time. Sony is releasing Ray Harryhausen's 20 Million Miles to Earth after all, hardly something for the PS3 set.
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post #54 of 148
7/27/07 at 7:51pm

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Originally Posted by Eric F
Give it time, give it time. Sony is releasing Ray Harryhausen's 20 Million Miles to Earth after all, hardly something for the PS3 set.

Oh I agree.....I'm very happy to see this title and happy to see that Harryhausen actually supervised the colorization. And a nice touch that the B&W version will be on the disc too. Its a nice start, now if we can get the Sinbad pictures and Jason!

Doug
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post #55 of 148
7/27/07 at 8:57pm

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I'm still waiting on "The Perfect Storm"
Hardly a "classic" but I like it an awful lot.
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post #56 of 148
7/28/07 at 8:21am

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

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Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
Having said that I'm very glad to see that they are jumping in with a great classic like Close Encounters. I'm hoping that this is a new transfer from the O neg and not the less than stunning 2001 transfer.

Doug
Considering the 2001 transfer was only 1 of the 3 versions, I would have to think this will get a new transfer. Otherwise, the other footage isn't going to match very well.
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post #57 of 148
7/28/07 at 8:26am

Re: Close Encounters of the Third Kind - November 13th

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Originally Posted by Jeff Adkins
Considering the 2001 transfer was only 1 of the 3 versions, I would have to think this will get a new transfer. Otherwise, the other footage isn't going to match very well.

Yeah I was just thinking about that myself. Hopefully this means a new transfer. Of course they might have transfered everything in 2001 not knowing exactly what Spielberg was going to include in that cut of the film. Also just about everything that wasn't in the final cut was included in the extras.

Doug
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post #58 of 148
7/28/07 at 11:07am

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Guys, I hate to say it, but while we might consider titles like Close Encounters and 2001 important, I think titles like Poltergeist,E.T. and The Spiderman Trilogy will help the most. It's virtually a certainty now the Spiderman Trilogy will be released on Blu by Dec worldwide (they were showing it at Comic-con).
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post #59 of 148
7/28/07 at 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by Eric F
Guys, I hate to say it, but while we might consider titles like Close Encounters and 2001 important, I think titles like Poltergeist,E.T. and The Spiderman Trilogy will help the most. It's virtually a certainty now the Spiderman Trilogy will be released on Blu by Dec worldwide (they were showing it at Comic-con).
You do know that Close Encounters and 2001 were much bigger box office hits than Poltergeist? As far as reviews, importance and prestige, it's not even close.
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post #60 of 148
7/28/07 at 1:06pm

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I'm sure a major reason for this is that - still - the majority of people buying the HD formats are only doing it to swoon over the PQ/SQ rather than because the film is, you know, actually good!

Underworld: Evolution is always going to outstrip Forbidden Planet in sales under those conditions. A shame.

I hate to break it to you but it's the exact same in the world of SD DVD.

If you don't realize this then you may have lost touch with reality.
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