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post #91 of 377
9/27/07 at 1:54pm

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It was great seeing Thomas Kretschmann in his role. I really like that actor.
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post #92 of 377
9/27/07 at 1:56pm

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Awesome ratings for Commander in Chief too -- in the beginning.

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And Mark Shepard as Will's dad
He didn't seem old enough for me. I could check the ages and find out it is feasible, but why cast someone that would cause viewers to second guess?

Effects were kinda meh.

Her face was really flushed when she was talking in the rain with whatshisname. I don't believe they were intended to be bruises. There was a line about how the "anthrocites" repaired all the gashes on her face, so they work on the entire body. Also, they filter out the toxins in cigarettes. So this is clearly an update to address issues the more modern audience might bring up. There won't be any scenes with the skin broken, revealing wires.

Too bad I'm not watching this in HD, so that I read all the bionic eye stuff. Waiting for "HUMAN CASUALTIES: 0.0"
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post #93 of 377
9/27/07 at 2:11pm

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After watching the pilot, this looks like a keeper (for now!).

Definitely different from the original version, with none of that sound effect whenever she used her bionic parts.
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post #94 of 377
9/27/07 at 3:15pm

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I've been looking forward to this show, and have confidence that it's going to be a very interesting and entertaining show. The reworked pilot did play a little too fast in terms of going from different points in Jaime's recovery from her upgrades, but I think they probably had a 90 minute version that got chopped up a little too much, but it did the job in terms of introducing Jaime and the cast of characters, and establishing enough of the support system to make the bionics plausible, as well as providing shortcuts in explaining her combat skills through bits of dialogue. I look forward to seeing more training montages and watching her use not only her new abilities, but her smarts as well.
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post #95 of 377
9/27/07 at 8:23pm

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The show was NBC's highest-rated series premiere since "The West Wing" so look for this one to be sticking around.
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post #96 of 377
9/27/07 at 9:03pm

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Well, do I have to mention "Commander-in-Chief"? That show got off to a nice start, but simply petered out after a showrunner change and lost focus and viewers. But I'd rather it start off strong and have a chance to hang on and keep its audience.
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post #97 of 377
9/27/07 at 10:01pm

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The difference is, NBC has actually brought in stronger talent since the pilot instead of vice-versa. As long as the behind-the-scenes drama has really been worked out (as opposed to CIC where it continued throughout the series's run) then it should be fine. Of course, considering the number of people here that had problems with it a significant drop for week two isn't out of the question.
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post #98 of 377
9/28/07 at 4:38am

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It was okay -- better than some of the other shows I thought would be better (like Private Practice) -- but what surprised me is how (hmmmm) "bad" of an actress Ryan was.... I felt like she delivered her lines pretty flat.
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post #99 of 377
9/28/07 at 6:56am

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I recorded it Weds, and watched it last night and the show does have great potential for action, sfx and story plots. I kind of miss the slow motion thing when bionics are being used but the scenes where they were used really looked good. She is kind of dry in her acting but hopefully a good story line can help with that. Some observations, the original Bionic woman got her but handed to her with most of her body replaced hence not really a match for Jamie. The Doctor's father is the making of one serious evil scientist and I think that would be interesting to see what comes from him, the little sister portion I think is absolutely not necessary, a distraction if anything. The guy in charge of the project looks like he'll surprise us with compassion down the road. Overall a pretty good show I'm definetly hooked.
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post #100 of 377
9/28/07 at 7:02am

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I felt like she delivered her lines pretty flat.
Yeah, I was cringing with her whole "I know what I'm capable of now." scene.
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post #101 of 377
9/28/07 at 8:23am

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Does anyone else feel that sackoff would've been good here as the lead?
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post #102 of 377
9/28/07 at 8:52am

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Originally Posted by Cameron Yee
Yeah, I was cringing with her whole "I know what I'm capable of now." scene.
OK, but were you cringing at the writing or the actress?

To me, the whole point of that scene is that she doesn't know. She's trying to sound assertive and all grown up, but she has only the faintest clue of what she's landed in. Otherwise there wouldn't be stories to tell.

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Does anyone else feel that sackoff would've been good here as the lead?
Sackhoff does cynicism and world-weariness better than just about anyone. I'm not sure how convincing she'd be as a naif. And from what I've read, it was the opportunity to be the villain that attracted her to the role.

M.
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post #103 of 377
9/28/07 at 9:01am

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Originally Posted by Dave Scarpa
Does anyone else feel that sackoff would've been good here as the lead?

No; I'm apparently in the minority that isn't overly impressed with Sackoff. Her character is simply a variation of Starbuck, and Jamie needs to be a more humble, more 'girl next door' type of
character.

I'd recorded it and watched it last night as well. It wasn't as dark as I feared (BSG-dark) but I agree with Chris in that I was underwhelmed. I felt cheated - her 'transformation' from human to cyborg took what? 5 minutes, and then she was 'all better'?!

I think that while the origianl BW and the Six Million Dollar Man were more geared towards children, I think their origins actually carried more drama. They struggled with their bionics; it took awhile for their bodies and the mechanics to mesh; and yes, I will miss the torn skin to reveal metal underneath.

And I did think that some of the acting, not just Michelle's, was wooden.

I am heartened to hear that some retooling is in place so I'm cautiously optimistic and will give it several more weeks.
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post #104 of 377
9/28/07 at 9:18am

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OK, but were you cringing at the writing or the actress?
My concerns were with the acting, not the writing. I think the writing is fine. What's lacking is the projection of believable emotion.
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post #105 of 377
9/28/07 at 10:24am

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Did the episode start early for anyone else? If so, is this going to be normal for this show? That really threw me from the start, missing the first minute or two.

For me, it started with Corvis's ex-lover stalking down a hall full of dead bodies. I don't know if that was late or just barely on time.

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Does anyone else feel that sackoff would've been good here as the lead?

I'm not a fan, so I wouldn't have tuned in. I can deal with her in a secondary role.

I thought it was pretty cool. I'm back next time. And next time, I'm going to actually record on the HD channel instead of the SD. Stupid DVR, defaulting to the base channel. Stupid me for forgetting that it does that.
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post #106 of 377
9/28/07 at 10:58am

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I too was underwhelmed by this show, for many of the reasons already stated.

On a more LCD level, I appreciated they picked a woman with a more womanly figure this time. While I liked Lindsey Wagner, I always thought she was too bloody skinny.

I too miss the slow motion effect and the ch-ch-ch-ch sound effect... probably on a more nostalgic level than anything else.
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post #107 of 377
9/28/07 at 11:19am

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My concerns were with the acting, not the writing. I think the writing is fine. What's lacking is the projection of believable emotion.
I tend to agree about what's lacking, but I disagree about the cause. I think the actors are doing the best they can with writing that's hobbled by the need to jam so many plot points into 42 minutes. (This really should have been a 90-minute pilot.) The writers solved the problem by relying on plot-point shorthand a/k/a cliches. I doubt there's an actress of this or any era who could have convincingly brought off the "we're doing it on my terms" scene. But at least Ryan (or the director; or maybe it was the editor with the timing of the cuts back to Miguel Ferrer) gave it the spin of a young woman trying to talk tough and not succeeding.

M.
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post #108 of 377
9/28/07 at 11:29am

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Originally Posted by Gary Seven
I too was underwhelmed by this show, for many of the reasons already stated.

On a more LCD level, I appreciated they picked a woman with a more womanly figure this time. While I liked Lindsey Wagner, I always thought she was too bloody skinny.

I too miss the slow motion effect and the ch-ch-ch-ch sound effect... probably on a more nostalgic level than anything else.

They need to give her a Bionic Dog, but this time mix it up and make it a Pomeranian. Also Fighting a Bigfoot or Fembot would'nt hurt.
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post #109 of 377
9/28/07 at 11:43am

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Was I the only one that thought of fembots when Sarah mentioned her upgraded chest?
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post #110 of 377
9/28/07 at 12:10pm

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
Was I the only one that thought of fembots when Sarah mentioned her upgraded chest?

Especially after the doctor's lecture.

As for the show, it was alright. To be honest, tho, I don't expect much from pilots. It doesn't tell me how the show is going to be from week to week, just the setup.

Jason
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post #111 of 377
9/28/07 at 12:50pm

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Was that Will doctor dude dead or alive at the end? I couldn't tell. Maybe I wasn't supposed to be able to tell.
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post #112 of 377
9/28/07 at 2:00pm

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Originally Posted by Michael Reuben
I think the actors are doing the best they can with writing that's hobbled by the need to jam so many plot points into 42 minutes.
I agree that there was way too much crammed into a small amount of time, but I thought Ryan did an especially poor job as compared to the other actors, and that was despite the fact that she (obviously) had more screen time than the rest. I actually cared more about the sister and the boyfriend than I did about the main character.
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post #113 of 377
9/28/07 at 2:15pm

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Michelle was much better in her scenes with the original deaf sister.
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post #114 of 377
9/28/07 at 10:18pm

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OK, but were you cringing at the writing or the actress?

To me, the whole point of that scene is that she doesn't know. She's trying to sound assertive and all grown up, but she has only the faintest clue of what she's landed in. Otherwise there wouldn't be stories to tell.

Both, but more so the delivery. I would have to watch the scene again to determine whether I would interpret the scene that way. At this point, it's more extrapolation than I'm willing to make.
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post #115 of 377
9/29/07 at 2:33am

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Watched the premiere and found it very disappointing. Still, I stuck it out till the end hoping to give it a chance. I don't know if I can take another week of the poor scripting, uninteresting characters, surprisingly weak acting and laughably bad dialogue. It just wasn't very good.
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post #116 of 377
9/29/07 at 3:23am

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I would imagine that Shoshanna Stern would have been better as the sister, as much as I think Lucy Hale did okay. I'm a little disappointed by that change.
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post #117 of 377
9/29/07 at 6:58am

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Finally got the time to watch it, and while I didn't think the pilot was all that good for the same various reasons posted already, I really liked the cast and the tone of the show and will eagaerly keep watching this one. It has all sorts of potential, so it should get better.
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post #118 of 377
9/30/07 at 5:43pm

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I found parts of this laughable. She must make a TON of money to afford that huge place and a Saab! Give me a break. Then again, maybe she worked at the "other club" down the street to earn the extra bucks.
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post #119 of 377
9/30/07 at 7:37pm

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Originally Posted by Dave Scarpa
They need to give her a Bionic Dog, but this time mix it up and make it a Pomeranian. Also Fighting a Bigfoot or Fembot would'nt hurt.
I told my wife the same thing: bring in BigFoot and all is forgiven!

Bionic Pom I didn't think of. Good irony: big fluffy dog filled with lethal, bionic killing hardware.
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post #120 of 377
10/1/07 at 3:13pm

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This show has real potential.

Although they need to settle things down and not rush the plots (I think things were rushed a bit in the pilot for obvious reasons).
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