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post #31 of 59
5/25/07 at 11:32am

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

The original, and '78 version both have a place on my shelf! If you dont like one or the other, or either, thats fine. Dont rain on our parade man!
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post #32 of 59
5/25/07 at 11:50am

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

Over the years I've watched the 1978 version a lot more than the classic original. I'd hate to have to choose between the two but if pressed I'd opt for the remake (or sequel as some people see it). Looking forward to the special edition hopefully picture and sound have been improved.

But it's a crime the original 1956 classic hasn't had the respect it deserves on DVD, it's 50's brethren Day The Earth Stood Still, War of the Worlds and Forbidden Planet have all had special edition sets devoted to them. Maybe when the next remake surfaces...
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post #33 of 59
5/25/07 at 4:08pm

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There's no such thing as "that's it" when it comes to subjective views on art. If there was, I would say: "Gone with the Wind is an overblown piece of hysterical bollocks. That's it."
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post #34 of 59
5/25/07 at 4:44pm

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Originally Posted by Rob Foss
.... The film is confusingly told.
I actually kind of agree with you here. But don't you seen how this fact can actually help the film? A sense of confusion creates a sense of paranoida.

Anyway, I couldn't agree more that the original needs a worthy DVD release alongside the 78 one. I'd buy both in a heartbeat since I don't even have the original on VHS.
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post #35 of 59
5/31/07 at 1:01pm

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

I just found out about this today. Anyone find out if it's going to be anamorphic?
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post #36 of 59
6/1/07 at 10:59am

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

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Originally Posted by Jeff Newcomb
Oops... I assumed that they were talking about the original too. My Academy ratio comment doesn't apply then. It would definitely be nice to have an anamorphic version of the remake.

The original is a wide screen film. Why would they not release this in anamorphic? It's not academy ratio.. more like to 2:1.

I have the Criterion LD release of the film where they have a great comparison of this film in wide-screen vs pan and scan in the features section.

As I recall, Kevin MacCarthy stated that the original had nothing to do with a communism commentary but of course that is open to debate.

I like the original and the remake although the remake plays as more of sequel. I liked the Kevin McCarthy cameo in the "remake".
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post #37 of 59
6/1/07 at 1:10pm

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Originally Posted by Gary Seven
The original is a wide screen film. Why would they not release this in anamorphic? It's not academy ratio.. more like to 2:1.

I have the Criterion LD release of the film where they have a great comparison of this film in wide-screen vs pan and scan in the features section.

It was meant to be shown in the regular "flat" format, maybe 1.85:1. The problem was that it wasn't made with the intent to be converted to SuperScope, which cropped the image more and enlarged the grain. Nearly all SuperScope films were never intended to be shown that way, as it was an afterthought. Also, the pan & scan example only shows croppng applied to the 2:1 anamorphic prints. If they went back to the negative, it would be open matte.
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post #38 of 59
6/1/07 at 1:42pm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Seven
The original is a wide screen film. Why would they not release this in anamorphic? It's not academy ratio.. more like to 2:1.

What Patrick said, except I suspect it may have even been intended to show at 1.37. That is how it was shot. The reason that the comparison is on the Criterion discs is that some pan-and-scan versions of the film take the already over-matted SuperScope transfer and pan-and-scan that! I don't recall if the full academy ratio negative has ever been transferred to video, or if it even exists anymore.
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post #39 of 59
6/1/07 at 2:01pm

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Interesting.... I googled for this Criterion LD to check your facts and found this...

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/.../t-173203.html

Learn something new every day... especially here.
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post #40 of 59
8/12/07 at 6:44am

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So the only reviews I've read state that this is the SAME transfer as the previous, which is not anamorphic. If this is true, I'm a bit shocked.....

Here's a review:

http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/invas...snatchers/5005
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post #41 of 59
8/12/07 at 7:33am

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Thanks for posting that review -- remind me NEVER to read that site ever again.

First of all, the disc most DEFINITELY IS anamorphic. It's 16:9 and looks exceptional, it's a huge upgrade from the earlier release.

That reviewer doesn't even state whether it's anamorphic or not, just that "the video is the same as the first release, which was actually of decent quality, especially considering how dark so many of the frames are."

LOL -- and the guy is a "managing editor" on top of it!
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post #42 of 59
8/12/07 at 7:36am

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The Aisle Seat confirms it's 16:9 (scroll down a little to find the capsule review):

http://www.andyfilm.com/7-31-07.html

At any rate I can tell you it's most definitely 16:9 as I have a copy sitting right here.
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post #43 of 59
8/12/07 at 8:27am

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I've learned that not all online DVD review websites are equal, especially when reviewing remasters of titles and/or older films. I'm reminded of DVDAuthority.com stating about the new US DVD of TO CATCH A THIEF "looks exactly identical to the previous DVD offering," and that he "compared the two DVD's and the only difference between this new 'Special Collector's Edition' and the older disc (which is five years old now) is the commentary track on this disc."

!!!! I e-mailed the site with a link to the thread on HTF with screen captures I made and he just replied: "Opinions vary. They looked the same to me."

I guess opinions DO vary, but stating that it IS the same is clearly false.
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post #44 of 59
8/12/07 at 9:12am

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Originally Posted by Chuck Pennington
I've learned that not all online DVD review websites are equal, especially when reviewing remasters of titles and/or older films. I'm reminded of DVDAuthority.com stating about the new US DVD of TO CATCH A THIEF "looks exactly identical to the previous DVD offering," and that he "compared the two DVD's and the only difference between this new 'Special Collector's Edition' and the older disc (which is five years old now) is the commentary track on this disc."

!!!! I e-mailed the site with a link to the thread on HTF with screen captures I made and he just replied: "Opinions vary. They looked the same to me."

I guess opinions DO vary, but stating that it IS the same is clearly false.

Some people can't admit they were wrong. I don't put a lot of faith in DVD Authority anyway...
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post #45 of 59
8/12/07 at 9:14am

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Originally Posted by Chris Tedesco
So the only reviews I've read state that this is the SAME transfer as the previous, which is not anamorphic. If this is true, I'm a bit shocked.....

Here's a review:

http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/invas...snatchers/5005

Wow - I'm surprised that review came from DVD Town, as they're usually pretty good. Plath has a lot of experience, too - he's not some newbie.

That's nuts, though. I watched the old "Snatchers" a couple of weeks ago and the new one yesterday. I think the audio is the same, but the new transfer is miles above the old one. It's anamorphic and looks great. I e-mailed my Town buddy John Puccio to see what he knows about Plath's "review" - I can't believe he actually watched it, or at least I can't believe Plath watched BOTH. He may have just looked at Puccio's review of the old one, said "that sounds about right" and left it at that...
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post #46 of 59
8/12/07 at 7:51pm

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

Well I'll be ... Well, thanks for letting me know that it is indeed anamorphic. Think I'll be picking this one up.
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post #47 of 59
8/12/07 at 9:43pm

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

I think the old non-anamorphic disc was repackaged a short while ago with a cover that's kinda similar to the brand new one. Maybe that's causing confusion?
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post #48 of 59
8/13/07 at 12:08pm

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Originally Posted by AlexCosmo
I think the old non-anamorphic disc was repackaged a short while ago with a cover that's kinda similar to the brand new one. Maybe that's causing confusion?

No, that doesn't explain why a couple of reviews seem to think it's the same transfer. DVD Town changed theirs when I e-mailed, but I still wouldn't put any faith in it - or in the DVD Talk review, since both think the 2007 SE looks the same as the old DVD. It's a night and day difference, and not a matter of opinion - the new one is a radical upgrade. Anyone who says they look the same didn't actually compare the two.
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post #49 of 59
8/14/07 at 2:49pm

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

I've certainly had my issues with Colin before (most notably, his 9-to-5 review), but he's dead-on here...the two transfers are worlds apart.
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post #50 of 59
8/15/07 at 3:28am

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Originally Posted by Mike_Richardson
Thanks for posting that review -- remind me NEVER to read that site ever again.

Is this really your attitude? I mean people make mistakes and even one typo in the wrong place can have its effect. Sure, "bad review" is "bad review" when it comes to that, but don´t blame the whole site. Reviews are not rocket science (VERY time consuming, though), so many different people make them. Some are great, some good, and well - some not that good.
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post #51 of 59
8/15/07 at 7:47am

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Colin, you published a review of the old DVD version just last month. In fact, when I saw it I initially thought it must be for the (then) impending new release. Will you be posting a review of the new disc?

EDIT: looks like I should have waited a day. New review posted 8/16/07. Thanks.
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post #52 of 59
8/15/07 at 10:28am

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

Has anyone got the disc and watched it yet... how good are the supplementals???
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post #53 of 59
8/15/07 at 5:13pm

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

The supplements are ok. There's about 35 minutes of featurettes on disc 2. Usual routine stuff. The sound featurette is the best. I think the 2nd disc was not needed. I haven't listened to the commentary yet but I hear it's good.
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post #54 of 59
8/15/07 at 5:26pm

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

I am OK with a second disc for sparse extras. The bit rate for the first disc can best be used for the movie. The extras on disc 2 are just OK, like Sam says. But it is good to see them. It is a 30 year old movie, and not a big budget one at that.

Oh, the movie looks great, for what it is. How anyone could say it looks like the non enhanced DVD from 8 years ago or so, didnt own the thing, or didnt watch it.
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post #55 of 59
8/15/07 at 6:00pm

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Originally Posted by RickER
I am OK with a second disc for sparse extras. The bit rate for the first disc can best be used for the movie. The extras on disc 2 are just OK, like Sam says. But it is good to see them. It is a 30 year old movie, and not a big budget one at that.

Oh, the movie looks great, for what it is. How anyone could say it looks like the non enhanced DVD from 8 years ago or so, didnt own the thing, or didnt watch it.

That's what I was also thinking. I guess it's okay if it means high bit-rates. The nice thing about the extras is that they're not exhaustive. A good 35 minutes look at the making of the film.

The transfer was truly amazing. I never saw any real dirt on the frames. The colour-timing looked about right too. I never did see the old disc so I can't compare but others say it beats it.
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post #56 of 59
8/16/07 at 2:48am

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I'll have to give this a go, as the old DVD was one of THE worst I have seen.
The eye destroying, mind grating, smearing whenver anyone moved faster than a snail during the night scenes was utterly unwatchable!

I checked out the scene with the bum/dog hybrid and them running down the sidewalk and it gave me a damn headache!

A fine, fine film so i hope the transfer is at last worthy.
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post #57 of 59
8/16/07 at 5:28am

Re: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers: Collectors Edition due 8/7/07

FYI, the new collector's edition DVD is on sale at Amazon right now for only $10.99 (45% off MSRP).
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post #58 of 59
8/16/07 at 6:59am

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennH
FYI, the new collector's edition DVD is on sale at Amazon right now for only $10.99 (45% off MSRP).

Well hell isnt that my luck. I had it on order from Amazon, along with a few other titles. I canceled it when it didnt ship with the other titles. It showed not in stock, and a Sept 11 release date. Maybe they had a few people like me who also canceled when the pre-release orders didnt ship, while everyone else had stock? Now they have to many.
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post #59 of 59
8/18/07 at 10:36am

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Hmm. Couldn't find any at my local BB or CC. Guess I'll see if I can buy it at Amazon still. Now if they would just put this out in HD DVD.......(bought an A2)
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