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Have I told you guys lately how much I love my Mac?

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I gotta be sounding like a broken record, and I'm certain some
of you could care less that I'm gushing in this forum like a girl
seeing her first Davey Jones concert (bad 70's joke), but MAN
OH MAN do I think Macintosh is the best thing that has ever
happened to computers.

You guys know the story. I had a $4K Velocity Micro PC that
went nutty after 2 years. Velocity Micro still can't fix it despite
the fact it has been shipped to their company no less than 3 times.

In January I said "enough is enough" and took the biggest
gamble of my life in buying a Macintosh. For most brainwashed
PC users like myself, going Mac was the thing we were taught
never EVER to do. Even my fellow HTF Moderator staff were
telling me that I was "drinking the kool-aid" because I was
talking up the virtues of owning a Mac computer.

In the past 3 months I have thoroughly enjoyed my Mac
experience to the point where two weeks ago I ditched my
Lenovo laptop for a Macbook Pro. The time had come
for me to put that final nail in the coffin as far as Windows and
PCs were concerned.

After a year of owning a Lenovo, which is considered by some
to be the "Rolls Royce" of laptops, I can honestly say that
the Macbook Pro blows it out of the water.

Here are

1. Bootup time is much quicker with OS X than Windows.
My Lenovo laptop with its 7200rpm drive used to take 3 minutes
to load up completely with its startup programs to the point
where I could use it. On my Macbook Pro with its
slower hard drive it takes 25 seconds.

2. Anything APPLE makes is quality. That's one of the reasons
why you pay through the nose for it. You tend to admire the
design and build quality of an iPod when comparing it to all the
other MP3 players out there. Same goes for Mac computers.
These are the most attractive and well-built pieces of machinery
on the market. Even Consumer Reports this month rated Mac
desktops to be the most reliable of computers.

3. No unnecessary eye candy. I have said this many times
before --- Vista is a glorified Windows XP that has been doctored
up to look pretty. But you know what? It still has bugs, it still
crashes and there are many having problems upgrading to it.
With OS X I have yet to have a single crash. When you install
a program you simply drag it to a directory. When you uninstall
you simply drag it to a trash can. No registry crap to deal with
and none of the problems associated with one software not playing
nice with another.

Bottom line is that I have never enjoyed my computing experience
as much as I do now that I switched over to a Mac. I have even
managed to convince my co-workers to switch over and they thank
me almost on a daily basis for doing so.
post #2 of 59

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Have I told you guys lately how much I love my Mac?

Nope...never had a clue.

Congrats on the MBP purchase, Ron. Not only is it a fully functional desktop replacement, but its design is so damned cool. Twice I've flown redeyes back from California and both times when I've fired my MBP up to watch a DVD the people sitting next to me have been agog when they see that ambient light sensor set the keyboard aglow.
post #3 of 59

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I just saw the promo for Leopard on apple's site, and it looks pretty awesome. I really like the ichat feature of sharing photos but I suspect you need another person with ichat to take advantage of all the features. I've read that Apple should be announcing the latest line of laptops/desktops pretty soon so it will be interesting to see what they release.
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Ron, my first experience with the difference between the systems came years ago when someone asked me how you save a file to a floppy (OK, quite a few years ago) in Windows. You can now probably see why the very question didn't make any sense to me. One thing in your post stood out to me though. You said you replaced a 4K Windows machine, then commented that you "pay through the nose" for Macs. Macs really aren't much more eexpensive anymore. No, you can't get a $400 piece of crap that won't do squat, but you can get into a complete iMac for under 1K and a mini for $500.

From what I can tell, the only place Mac falls behind, and probably always will, is with gaming software, which doesn't get ported over very fast. Of course, that makes the typical Windows user argument that Macs are just pretty little toys and not for real computing a bit ironic.
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Good to hear Ron. I'm planning to buy MacBook Pro later this year -- this will be my first Mac and my first laptop.

Having grown up with all the wonderful 80's computers (Timex Sinclair, Atari 800, Atari ST, C64), used NeXT throughout college and other Unix systems, I fell that I've stagnated the past 15 years as I've been PC through and through. Sure, Starcraft and UT were fantastic reasons to have a PC, but like you I see Vista as XP rewarmed. Computers have gotten boring to me, and I want to bring some emotional excitement back into my home use, along with the normal functional performance.
post #6 of 59

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I'm loving my mac mini. I bought it about a month ago, but I'm coming over from linux, not windows. I feel mac offers the security of linux/unix, but with none of the mess. Linux was great, but it was too often a hassle to get a new device working. The "it just works" saying really is true, most of the time.

The kool-aid tastes great. I love my mac.

CJ
post #7 of 59

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I have been paying close attention to these threads. Like Ron, I have been a Windows user for years. I may take the plunge and get a Mac as my next computer. With the ability to boot in to Windows from a Mac now makes my decision even easier. The only thing holding me back at this point is the new OS coming out in the late Spring.
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As much of a dedicated windows user, I have to admit that Macs aren't the "pieces of crap" that a lot of other Windows users make it out to be. If I was to buy a Mac, it would probably be for it's graphics editing/film editing/etc. I enjoy making little animated videos and doing drawings (if you want to see some drawings, PM me).

Makes me want to reconsider my $900 upcoming computer build project.
post #9 of 59

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I have to admit that Macs aren't the "pieces of crap" that a lot of other Windows users make it out to be

Um...by "other Windows users"...do you happen to include yourself?
post #10 of 59

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I have to admit that Macs aren't the "pieces of crap" that a lot of other Windows users make it out to be
how big of you. your preference may not be mac, but anyone who calls them "pieces of crap" is either looking for an argument, or has no experience with macs and is looking for an argument.

CJ
post #11 of 59

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I wasn't calling it a piece of crap because it's a mac, I just don't like old computers much. If it was an old Windows, I'd call that piece of crap as well. You guys just didn't read it right...
post #12 of 59

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I just recently bought 2 new HP Vista laptops...and I'm loving them to death (one is mine...1 is my wife's).

I've ALMOST bought a Mac Mini a couple of different times over the past year or so...but could never pull the trigger.

When it comes time to buy another laptop in a couple of years or so...I promise I'll look at the Macs
post #13 of 59

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Hey Ron, was wondering if you were going to buy a MBP for Vegas...

I love mine. It's just a super-slick notebook. The backlit keyboard is about as cool as it gets (and really useful for me since I do theatrical sound design and it makes my notebook much more useable when the lights go down).

Now, c'mon Apple, let's get Leopard out...
post #14 of 59

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As much of a dedicated windows user, I have to admit that Macs aren't the "pieces of crap" that a lot of other Windows users make it out to be.
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Originally Posted by bobbyg2
I wasn't calling it a piece of crap because it's a mac, I just don't like old computers much. If it was an old Windows, I'd call that piece of crap as well. You guys just didn't read it right...
So you are referring to the Mac in the other thread, make no mention of it in this thread, and WE are reading it wrong? We read it just fine. You were talking about Windows vs. Mac, not your other computer. If you were talking about your other computer, you need to update your sentence construction skills.

CJ
post #15 of 59

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I'm guessing you are referring to this statement I made in the other thread:

"I'm done with that piece of $#!+ Mac"

I wasn't necessarily calling Macs pieces of $#!+, I was just referring to the computer being a piece of $#!+. If it was a windows, I would have said something similar to:

"I'm done with that piece of $#!+ PC!"

I'm not degrading macs in general, it's just that no one really considers 10-year-old computers as up-to-date. It's 10 years old, even Windows computers that are 10 years old suck.
post #16 of 59

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Originally Posted by Christ Reynolds
you need to update your sentence construction skills.

CJ
Ya think?
post #17 of 59

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Originally Posted by bobbyg2
I'm guessing you are referring to this statement I made in the other thread:
Nope, it was ME who had to guess that YOU were using that statement. Better to stop now Bobby, you're not getting anywhere with this one.

CJ
post #18 of 59
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Re: Have I told you guys lately how much I love my Mac?

Okay guys. Enough! Let's move on.
post #19 of 59

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Reminds me of the old saying: "Windows 95 = Mac 84" which surfaced during Win 95's ballyhooed release back in 1995.

We got an iMac, the really cool G4 flatpanel connected on a swivel post to the half-volleyball CPU, back in 04 and absolutely loved it. Last year I got a MBP -- initially I was going to get just the MacBook, but they were on a two-week delay here, the initial shipment having sold out, then a friend pointed out to me that they were discounting the initial release MBPs that had 1.83GHz CPUs instead of the then-standard 2.0, and I figured that I don't do anything that'll suffer from the slightly slower CPU, whilst a S$600 discount was nothing to sniff at.

Some things are so "simple", yet work wonderfully on Macs, yet PCs still can't do them -- e.g. Expose.

Perhaps one gripe right now, which applies to the missus rather than me, is that her office uses Citrix for remote access to office email and servers, which has recently been upgraded but the new version isn't compatible with Macs at all. However, since her office also replaced her desktop with a laptop as the working machine, if she needs to work from home she simply brings that home instead now.

One hardware gripe: Mac DVD-ROM drives cannot be tweaked to change region indefinitely. A minor nuisance, but a real one for me since living in a non-R1 country does mean I have a fair number of non-R1 DVDs, which I can't play on my Macs -- not a big deal for the iMac, but when on the road it means I can only bring R1 discs with me if I'm using the MBP to play them.

Oh, actually, the biggest gripe is: I'm now so spoilt by my Macs, and get annoyed with dealing with the PC at work...
post #20 of 59

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On my MBP I have a bootcamp install because I have work-related programs that are XP only. When I first started using my MBP last summer, I was probably spending as much time on the XP side as the Mac side, and not just for work, but for comfort.

Now unless I absolutely need to use those work-related programs (about 5% of the time I'm on my MBP), I'm always on OSX.

I can't wait for Leopard and the academic versions of Adobe CS3 Design Standard (okay I might spring for Premium)!
post #21 of 59
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Carlo,

I can relate.

When I first got my Mac Pro I installed Vista under Parallels.
I used Windows as a crutch while I got used to OS X.

Now? I never use Parallels and Vista anymore. I have all
the programs and satisfaction I need to stay in the OS X environment.
post #22 of 59

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You guys are describing what a few of my friends are going through. The Mac UI takes hold, and suddenly Windows looks and feels like an unwanted relationship.

Divorce is immanent.

E
post #23 of 59

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On my MBP I have a bootcamp install because I have work-related programs that are XP only
Why not use VMware Fusion or Parallels and run XP inside OS X instead of booting one or the other?

CJ
post #24 of 59

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1) I'm cheap, and so is Bootcamp
2) I thought originally that I might do 3D gaming on the XP partition, so the only way to get full 3D acceleration is Bootcamp.
3) I'm cheap, and so is Bootcamp
post #25 of 59

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Originally Posted by Yee-Ming
One hardware gripe: Mac DVD-ROM drives cannot be tweaked to change region indefinitely.
There are really two issues at work here: If you have a Matsushita (i.e. Panasonic) drive, those are notorious for not having firmware to make them region-free, no matter what platform. Windows users are just as much out of luck there as Mac users.

Secondly, if you have a drive that *can* be made region-free (like the Pioneer in my iMac), then you need to do it from Windows under Bootcamp. That is a hurdle, no doubt, but it is possible, luckily.

-Christian

PS: Of course, there is software that you could use to just put the DVD contents on your harddrive and watch it from there...
post #26 of 59

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gaming is the only reason i'd go with bootcamp, although eventually 3D support will be improved in VMware, even though it exists now. after all, VMware Fusion is just as cheap as Boot Camp

CJ
post #27 of 59

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Originally Posted by Christian Behrens
There are really two issues at work here: If you have a Matsushita (i.e. Panasonic) drive, those are notorious for not having firmware to make them region-free, no matter what platform. Windows users are just as much out of luck there as Mac users.
The MBP has a Matsushite drive, so that's the real problem: my "travel DVD player" is therefore limited to R1 only.

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Secondly, if you have a drive that *can* be made region-free (like the Pioneer in my iMac), then you need to do it from Windows under Bootcamp. That is a hurdle, no doubt, but it is possible, luckily.
The iMac has a Pioneer DVR106 -- but it's a G4 PowerPC machine, not an Intel.

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PS: Of course, there is software that you could use to just put the DVD contents on your harddrive and watch it from there...
Too much hassle for travelling. And if I'm at home, might as well use the Pioneer DV969 and watch on the 434, neh?
post #28 of 59

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Originally Posted by Yee-Ming
The MBP has a Matsushite drive, so that's the real problem: my "travel DVD player" is therefore limited to R1 only.
Have you tried VLC yet? That might actually work on your system.

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The iMac has a Pioneer DVR106 -- but it's a G4 PowerPC machine, not an Intel.
There might actually be firmware for that drive, but you would have to run it from OS 9. I've never seen firmware that you could install under OS X.

VLC is probably your best bet

-Christian
post #29 of 59

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I'd like to go Mac myself, but one thing stops me - the price.

I'm not a fan of the iMac - I want a case I can put under the desk and that I can open and put a 2nd, 3rd or 4th drive into. I want to be able to change the graphics card at some point. The only Mac that I can do that with is the Mac Pro, but that starts at £1700, and that's for a relatively low spec. I know the base specs are good, but it's still a crap-load of money and not everyone needs server-spec processing power.

It's like they've just left a big gap in their product line - you either get an all-in-one which you can't change much with, or spend biggo money on something beyond what is required. Odd.
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It's like they've just left a big gap in their product line - you either get an all-in-one which you can't change much with, or spend biggo money on something beyond what is required. Odd.
I believe that they left that gap on purpose. They know they can't compete with the DIY boxes in terms of price [a lot of which are devoted to gaming, which Mac/OSX are not really good at]. And to be honest, I don't think they even want to be in that market. They are targeting with the Mac Pro those who want the ultimate A/V editing and creation machine. With the iMac, they are going after the people who want a PC that "just works" with a good amount of power (and the iMacs are decent in that regard) and who aren't going to want to upgrade fairly frequently. With the Mac Mini they're targeting the "kids PC" or "super budget PC" market. I think Apple knows the DIY'ers and gamers by and large will not make the switch, even with Bootcamp.

It's funny Rob, I'm coming from the exact opposite direction as you. I used to build PCs for myself and friends/family. But eventually I realized that every time I wanted to upgrade say, my video card, then my CPU became the bottleneck. Well by the time I had money to buy the CPU, a better mobo/chipset was out, so I'd have to buy that. Then inevitably that new CPU/chipset used better or faster RAM, so I had to upgrade that. By the time I got around to upgrading that, a new graphics card had come out.

Eventually I just got sick of it. And I noticed too that a lot of slowdown came from the OS itself: XP. And all of the stuff you need to run on it to keep it safe: virus scan, malware, spyware, etc. I wasn't saving money by upgrading in piecemeal fashion.

Last year I gave the Macbook Pro a try. I got the maxed out combo (academic price of $1999) 2.33GHz C2D, 2GB RAM, 256MB VRAM, and to be honest, for half a year I've not even had a desire to upgrade a thing. It's snappy fast, and the OS doesn't feel bloated as it runs, like XP tends to after you install a lot of programs (and I have a ton on my MBP, 100GB of my 120GB HD are used).

And the one thing bugging me about my bedroom PC (Windows)? The box. I haven't updated it in a while, and in fact I barely use it as my MBP is now my primary machine, but the fact that the bulky box is down there and taking up floor space bugs me (I don't have a large place). I've decided when that machine gives up the ghost, I'm going with an iMac and not looking back.
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