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post #31 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

EARLY PREDICTION

Sony is seeing massive success with SP3 that may go unmatched this year or ever but I want to caution them to avoid opening around James Cameron's Avatar in 2009. Avatar is a fresh idea that's rumored to already be amazing with technology not seen yet.

The last thing that Sony wants to do is put this up against a sleeper...
post #32 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

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Originally Posted by Les Samuel
EARLY PREDICTION

Sony is seeing massive success with SP3 that may go unmatched this year or ever but I want to caution them to avoid opening around James Cameron's Avatar in 2009. Avatar is a fresh idea that's rumored to already be amazing with technology not seen yet.

The last thing that Sony wants to do is put this up against a sleeper...

Right, but it's a big Summer. "Avatar" opens in May? Open "Spider-Man 3" in July. There's room enough for MANY big blockbusters.
post #33 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Other tentative Summer '09 releases...

"Captain America"
"Clash of the Titans"
"The Flash"
"Ghostbusters: Hellbent"
"The Green Hornet"
"The Hardy Men"
"John Carter of Mars"
"Magneto"
"Monsters and Aliens"
"The Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time"
"Super Max"
"Superman: The Man of Steel"

"Avatar" currently is set to launch on May 22nd of '09, which means Sony will very likely look to snag the first weekend of May once again. Spidey 4 could be in theaters on May 1st (which is a Friday) and have three weeks to itself before "Avatar" even opens.

Both times Spidey has opened on the first weekend of May have resulted in record-shattering launches. I seriously doubt Sony wants to mess with that formula. If Sony seriously intends on releasing a new one in two years than expect Spidey 4 to open on May 1st, 2009.
post #34 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

They really want a new Spiderman for May09?
post #35 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

David

I understand that but Sony wants superiority when a Spiderman installment is released. There will be more chest pounding as SP3 continues to rake in huge amounts of revenue for this offering.

I'm just saying the Sony should be careful with the franchise now. We know they want to do several more with or with out the Fab 3. They probably wouldn't mind replacing Tobey and Kirsten for economical reasons. Their replacements are critical, if Raimi does not return that's even more critical.

Throw in the mix a movie that a great many are interested in that has a fresh idea. Now pour in Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn (still unconfirmed).

Avatar could be SP4's Buster Douglas....

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Originally Posted by Les Samuel
"Avatar" currently is set to launch on May 22nd of '09, which means Sony will very likely look to snag the first weekend of May once again.

Terry with 2009 pretty far off changes may occur. 20th Century Fox may just say we want early May after possibly seeing footage that has them salivating...
post #36 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

From what I understand, Fox (as well as Cameron) want the movie to open during Memorial Day Weekend of '09. As of right now, that date is pretty much locked.

Jon, scripting began on Spidey 4 well into post-production on Spidey 3 (they hired David Keopp). The studio is also quietly looking to replace both Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst in the lead roles. Everyone else who appeared (and didn't die) in the first three movies will be back for #4 (namely Bryce Howard, JK Simmons, Rosemary Harris, and Elizabeth Banks).

Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Jake Gyllenhaal, and an unnamed third actor have been talked about as possible replacements for Maguire, while Mandy Moore and several other actresses have been mentioned as replacements for Dunst. The studio wants to ink the new players to three-picture deals, something they didn't do with Maguire and Dunst. The same goes for the next director, should Raimi opt not to return.

If Maguire were to return he'd command between $20-$30 million. He was paid $17 mil and $19 mil respectively for Spidey 2 and 3. Raimi has been eyeing New Line's "The Hobbit", as well as another "Evil Dead" movie, and seems to want to take a break from Spidey.

This could all be moot, but Sony does want a new movie in theaters for the summer of '09. Their best case scenario has a Spidey movie coming out every 2-3 years.

Bringing Raimi, Maguire, and Dunst back would play havoc on the budget, as it did with Spidey 3. Yes, the studio would love them to return, but its not really cost effective at this point and could be a good time to hand the franchise over to new blood.
post #37 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

MANDY MOORE?!? oh god.

How about....
post #38 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Bryce Dallas Howard should've been MJ in the first place IMO. She was good in her few scenes with PP. But she's obviously not a possibility now they used her (rather pointlessly) already.

Knowing the studio heads though it'll probably end up being Lindsay Lohan, lol. Her "people" are probably desperate to get her on a big time franchise picture like this anyway.
post #39 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

No offense to Kirsten Dunst, but I've always seen her as the weak link of the franchise. At this point, she's really the only one I think needs to be replaced. Dunst has shown promise in other roles ("Mona Lisa Smile", "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind"), but not in the Spidey movies.

As for Lindsay Lohan, I think all of her baggage would work against in getting a role in such an established franchise. The studio may not want to risk all of the craziness surrounding her possibly hurting the movie in any way. She'd probably have to jump through all sorts of hoops to land that gig. At this point, Sony is looking for "cheap, but talented" to fill the role(s).
post #40 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Actually I think Mandy Moore would be a good fit. If they are going to replace Tobey, that's going to be trickier.
post #41 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Elisha Cuthbert for Felicia Hardy.
post #42 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Well yea, I mean do they even NEED a new MJ? With Gwen Stacy introduced and now talk of the Black Cat being in the fourth film, do they even need to have MJ in this film at all? The movie kinda ended on a question mark for the future of their relationship. Just have her character ditch town.
post #43 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

"If they are going to replace Tobey, that's going to be trickier."

Its almost too bad Grace was in SM3
post #44 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

The problem I had with Topher Grace is ... I dunno, every scene I saw him as "that 70s Show kid", I never really for a second bought him Brock/Venom in a serious way.

Maybe it would be different if he had been cast as Spider-Man.

I've also thought maybe for the movies they could reverse the Gwen Stacy/Mary Jane relationship and have Mary Jane die and Gwen Stacy then becomes PP's full time GF. Hey it's not like movie franchises don't make bigger changes to the source material anyway.
post #45 of 515
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re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Source: BBC News
May 7, 2007


Will the "Spider-Man" franchise become the next James Bond or Star Trek, two of the longest series of films in history? It might happen, as Sony Pictures chief executive Michael Lynton told BBC News that "everybody has every intention of making a fourth, a fifth and a sixth and on and on."

There would be "as many as we can make good stories for", he pledged. "Everybody's been so busy trying to get this one out that that's been the focus. When everybody comes up for air, we can think about how to make the next one."

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5632
post #46 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Terry, can you elaborate on Raimi's desire to do another Evil Dead film? It's been talked about for years now. Do you really think there's a chance he'll do that before moving on to something like The Hobbit?
post #47 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

My gut feeling is the future Spider-Man films will get progressively sillier/more over-the-top.

The turn for that already has been made in Spidey 3 ... but really I think the further you get away from PP/Spideys origins the more convulted the story becomes anyway (even in the comics).
post #48 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

With all the clout Raimi has now, thanks the huge success the Spidey franchise has become, he's in a position where he can actually have a big budget to do another "Evil Dead" movie. All of the movies were done very much on the cheap and the thought of having real money to do one of those movies, plus the chance of working with Bruce Campbell again, is probably very enticing.

From what has been said in interviews, Raimi REALLY wants to do "The Hobbit". He's strengthened his position greatly with Spidey 3's record opening this weekend. Doing another "Evil Dead" is something that is on his radar (either as director or producer), but "The Hobbit" seems to be his "holy grail" right now.

There are a lot of "ifs" involved though. Sony still has first crack at him on Spidey 4, if they choose to A) choose to bring him back and B) give him a deal equal to Peter Jackson's record payday for "King Kong".
post #49 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

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Originally Posted by Pete-D
The problem I had with Topher Grace is ... I dunno, every scene I saw him as "that 70s Show kid", I never really for a second bought him Brock/Venom in a serious way.
.
need to get over that.
he has been in a few movies now, was good in Traffic and
proved with In Good Company that he can be a lead in a film.
and as a few mentioned he would be just right as peter parker in future movies.

he has the ability to be funny, snarky the way spider-man is.
post #50 of 515
Thread Starter 

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Who Would Curtis Like as the Spidey 4 Villain?

http://www2.superherohype.com/news.php?id=5760
post #51 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

The Lizard will definitely be one of the villains for Spidey 4. The most popular rumor suggests that Lizard and Carnage will be the villains for #4. Sony may opt to have just Lizard being the baddie, but don't be surprised if a second one (Carnage or someone else) is thrown in.

From what I understand Sony already has a skeleton idea of what the fourth movie will be in terms of the storyline, despite what the producers are saying right now. The one thing that is for sure is that Lizard will appear in film #4.

It'll be interesting to see if any of the "big three" (Raimi, Maguire, and Dunst) return for the fourth movie. Sony is said to be "quietly" looking at possible replacements for all three. Whatever happens, film #4 will be the first of the new trilogy of Spidey movies.
post #52 of 515
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re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Raimi Talks "Spider-Man 4" & Villains

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070626f.php
post #53 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

All we need in a superhero film is ONE villain... ONE!!! You start throwing them in there like the old Batman franchise that went bust and you'll take down this Spider-Man franchise.

It already was becoming sloppy in Spidey 3 with THREE villains. Venom was completely wasted as a character though he (it) was one of the most loved villains, and they should have focused soley on him.

The script also seemed of far less quality than Spidey 2, which IMHO is the best of the series so far.

Comparing POTC 3 to Spidey 3, they both stunk, but Spidey 3 only less so because their heart was in the right place, it just needed more work and the dropping of the baggage of Sandman and Harry/Goblin 2.
post #54 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Honestly, Dunst could be replaced with a cardboard monkey & it wouldn't make any difference. The fact that she honestly believes that she has a role in the success of the Spiderman franchise is LAUGHABLE at best & quite sad.
post #55 of 515
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re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5986

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At some point within the next two weeks, producer Laura Ziskin and the top brass of Sony Pictures Entertainment will sit down together for the first time since "Spider-Man 3" opened May 4 to discuss the franchise's future.

It's a crucial meeting, all the more so because director Sam Raimi will be there. And Raimi, who has sent contradictory messages about his future plans, might at last indicate whether he'll helm the next installment.

"It would be great to have everybody back," Ziskin says. "But no one is going to sign on the dotted line until we have a script. These are the questions being discussed now. The one thing we have answered definitively is: There will be more 'Spider-Man' movies. We just haven't answered what shape they will come in and (Sony) hasn't given us a release date."

The upcoming meeting "will be the first step in a process," Ziskin adds. "'Spider-Man' will continue; I can't tell you every person who will be involved."

It goes without saying just how critical the "Spider-Man" franchise is to the studio's bottom line; at press time, the franchise had netted upwards of $2 billion in boxoffice receipts, not to mention home video revenue and other income from ancillary ventures. But it is hardly unique in today's Hollywood.


post #56 of 515
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re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=20909

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Sam Raimi has given his strongest indication yet that he may return to the director’s chair for Spider-Man’s fourth outing.
Okay, he hasn’t exactly said he’s definitely up for the job but, as he spoke exclusively to Empire at Comic-Con, he confirmed he isn’t completely averse to the idea.

“I want to help contribute to the production,” he said. “I don’t know if I’ll just be a producer on it but if I can work with the writer in such a way so that directing would be right for me, I don’t know. We’ve had our first meeting on Spider-Man 4 and we’re looking for the writer.”

A vague answer we know but we’re holding out hope as the great man starts the ball rolling on the wallcrawler’s next adventure and ends his time with the series on a high, rather than the disappointing third movie, which lacked the energy of the first two films.

here are some videos

http://www.empireonline.com/features/comiccon2007/
post #57 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Interesting info on the possible director for Spidey 4.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop...Plan-5977.html
post #58 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

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Originally Posted by TerryRL
Interesting info on the possible director for Spidey 4.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop...Plan-5977.html

I honestly don't see Sony or Marvel being too happy with that choice even if it means getting Raimi back in a producer's role. They're going to give Bruce $200 million to direct a tentpole franchise film for them when directing an episode of Xena Warrior Princess is the biggest thing on his directing resume.
post #59 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

The idea that Bruce Campbell would direct Spider-Man 4 is preposterously stupid. Cinemablend should be ashamed of themselves for drawing such conclusions.
post #60 of 515

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Cinema Blend updated their story revealing that Bruce Campbell is NOT the director that Raimi has in mind to helm Spidey 4 should he take on the mantle of producer. They go on to say that they will continue their detective work because the "person of interest" has worked with Raimi before. So, we'll see.
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