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post #271 of 515
1/12/10 at 12:33pm
I don't see a problem with this either. Just because they are going back to Peter in High School doesn't mean they will be telling the same story again. They can pretty much skip the origin story and just have Peter already Spider-Man, use different villains (maybe they can get Kingpin back from Fox now), go back to Gwen Stacy as his High School sweetheart, and maybe even mechanical web shooters, and it will be a new movie.

I mean most comic fans are used to multiple books running at the same time featuring the same character in slightly different stories. Not to mention we're used to sudden reboots.

Heck, they can even avoid confusion by calling this one "The Amazing Spider-Man". Heck I wouldn't mind if they did a reboot every three movies. It just makes sense to me.
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post #272 of 515
1/12/10 at 1:12pm
I don't see the point in continually covering the same territory.  Don't tell me that the point is to present a new twist on a familiar character.  The studio just wants to keep a lucrative franchise alive.  Any "re-imagining" is only to avoid audiences wondering why they're seeing the same thing they saw a few years ago.
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post #273 of 515
1/12/10 at 10:01pm

Awesome idea Sony! Let's reboot The Matrix franchise next! And then The Lord of the Rings franchise!

 

Is it too early to re-reboot Batman as well? 

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post #274 of 515
1/13/10 at 4:42am
Is it possible the pressure to include modern villains in the movies comes from Arad or someone else with ties to Marvel? Seems to me that the only reason to do so is an attempt to increase comic sales. The movies seemed to be grossing plenty of money on their own.


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post #275 of 515
1/13/10 at 8:07am
Expect "Twlight" like casting.

Most likely even the super villains will be in their teens, or early 20's.

Looks like I'm done with the Spidey films!
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post #276 of 515
1/13/10 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by Sam Favate View Post

Is it possible the pressure to include modern villains in the movies comes from Arad or someone else with ties to Marvel? Seems to me that the only reason to do so is an attempt to increase comic sales. The movies seemed to be grossing plenty of money on their own

I think it was confirmed that a lot of the pressure to include Venom in Spider-Man 3 was from Arad, who supposedly accused Raimi of being selfish for preferring to use the villains he grew up with. I don't think it's about comic sales, though. Just that persistent inability of people to see that popularity of a character in comics doesn't necessarily correlate to film popularity. Just because Venom was a big fish in a small pond (and considering how few people actually read comics, it's probably more like a very small rain puddle we're talking about) doesn't mean the general public gives a crap but people like Arad still act like people are "clamoring for Venom" and that including a character like that will spike the film grosses in a big way.

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post #277 of 515
1/13/10 at 9:09am
How about Spencer and Heidi Pratt as Peter and Gwen?

I think I heard someone's head explode.
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post #278 of 515
1/13/10 at 4:04pm


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Originally Posted by Hanson Yoo View Post

How about Spencer and Heidi Pratt as Peter and Gwen?

I think I heard someone's head explode.

And directed by Uwe Boll.

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post #279 of 515
1/13/10 at 4:48pm
Produced by Troma Entertainment.
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post #280 of 515
1/13/10 at 5:05pm
If we end up with Taylor Lautner for Spidey, I am 100% done with it.
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post #281 of 515
1/13/10 at 6:17pm
Just read from ERC that Marc Webb (heh), the director of "(500) Days of Summer" is on the short list of directors that Sony is considering to helm the next Spider-man adventure.  If so, how about some love for Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Peter Parker?  He's got the right build, and somewhat agile, and about the right age to play either the teenage years, or the college years.
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post #282 of 515
1/13/10 at 7:12pm
Dude's almost thirty!  Or, does 3rd Rock just seem like an ancient show?  Guess it doesn't matter, since Tom Welling played a teenager when he was 45.
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post #283 of 515
1/14/10 at 6:55am
I think they are trying to get Adam Lambert
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post #284 of 515
1/14/10 at 6:59am
At least Gordon-Levitt looks young for his age, and appears to be rather flexible in his stint as host on SNL last month.  Then again, he may want to do a song-n-dance as Spidey, which could be a deal-breaker...

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post #285 of 515
1/14/10 at 9:12am
Id rather see JGL fill in for whatever small part Joker was supposed to play in Batman 3.

Hes too old to play a teenage Parker.



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post #286 of 515
1/19/10 at 4:55pm
Thread Starter 
Okay folks it's official http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=8998


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Webb, the director of the Golden Globe-nominated Best Picture (500) Days of Summer, will direct the next chapter in the Spider-Man franchise, set to hit theaters summer 2012, it was jointly announced today by Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios.

Written by James Vanderbilt, Webb will work closely with producers Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin in developing the project, which will begin production later this year.

Commenting on the announcement, Amy Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment, and Matt Tolmach, president of Columbia Pictures, said, "At its core, Spider-Man is a small, intimate human story about an everyday teenager that takes place in an epic super-human world. The key for us as we sought a new director was to identify filmmakers who could give sharp focus to Peter Parker's life. We wanted someone who could capture the awe of being in Peter's shoes so the audience could experience his sense of discovery while giving real heart to the emotion, anxiety, and recklessness of that age and coupling all of that with the adrenaline of Spider-Man's adventure. We believe Marc Webb is the perfect choice to bring us on that journey."

Arad and Ziskin added jointly, "Over the years, the Spider-Man comics have been told with bold and creative new writers and artists who have re-calibrated the way audiences see Peter Parker. Marc Webb will do for the new direction of the films what so many visionary storytellers have done with the comic books. He is an incredibly talented filmmaker and we look forward to working closely with him on this new adventure."

Webb said, "This is a dream come true and I couldn't be more aware of the challenge, responsibility, or opportunity. Sam Raimi's virtuoso rendering of Spider-Man is a humbling precedent to follow and build upon. The first three films are beloved for good reason. But I think the Spider-Man mythology transcends not only generations but directors as well. I am signing on not to 'take over' from Sam. That would be impossible. Not to mention arrogant. I'm here because there's an opportunity for ideas, stories, and histories that will add a new dimension, canvas, and creative voice to Spider-Man."

Stan Lee, co-creator of Spider-Man, added, "I'm excited that Sony has chosen a director with a real penchant and understanding for the character. This is a brave, bold direction for the franchise, and I can't wait to see what Marc comes up with next."

Added Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige, "The idea of re-imagining the on-screen story for one of the world's most iconic superheros is sure to deliver an exciting new dimension to Spider-Man fans everywhere. There are volumes of comics and material available to inspire fresh and compelling takes on Peter Parker and his journey as Spidey and we look forward to seeing this come alive onscreen."

Marc Webb has won acclaim with his film debut (500) Days of Summer. He has several MTV VMAs™ including 2009's Best Director award for Green Day's "21 Guns," 2006 Best Rock Video for AFI's "Miss Murder," and Best Group Video for The All-American Rejects' "Move Along." The Music Video Production Association honored him in 2006 as the Director of the Year for his work with Weezer, AAR, and My Chemical Romance.

In addition to two Golden Globe nominations including Best Picture (musical or comedy), his first feature film, (500) Days of Summer, starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Zooey Deschanel, has been nominated for three Independent Spirit Awards, including Best Feature. Webb was also awarded the Spotlight Award, which honors outstanding directorial debuts, by the National Board of Review.

 


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post #287 of 515
1/20/10 at 12:14am
Let's just hope they don't "Twilight" the franchise and alienate the real Spidey fans.  I think that's what Sony wants but hopefully Webb will know better.
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post #288 of 515
1/20/10 at 9:12am
They already have a "Spiderman as a teenager" cartoon as many TV versions are now reducing the ages of the heroes to teens.  I have seen a little bit of it but it just feels wrong.  Peter Parker was in college when he became Spiderman.  Not a full adult but not a high-schooler either.  It is like having a teen Batman; it just doesn't work because part of his character was being a sizable man with some adult experience.  Robin can be a Teen Titan but not Batman and also not Spiderman.  The solution to teen Batman was Batman Beyond.

I have no problem with dumping the entire cast and crew because I found the Peter Parker / Mary Jane part to be completely abysmal.  MJ wasn't likable in the first movie and she was even less likable in the second.  The landlord's daughter showed more affection and genuine caring for PP in her two minutes than MJ did for the entire first two films.  However, it sounds like this is a reboot to make the movies even worse by making a movie with all the things they believe the demographic they are after (kids/teens) will like (teen hero, lots of splosions, rocking soundtrack) rather than just making a good movie based upon the character and letting the kids/teens discover it for themselves while the adults watch in droves.  They risk alienating a sizable portion of the 18-49 year old demographic and making Spiderman a $150-$200 million a movie franchise instead of the $300+M it has been and could still continue to be.

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post #289 of 515
1/20/10 at 9:36am
Sony will cast actors/actresses no older than their mid-20s for the three movies.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if the actor they cast to play Peter/Spidey is in his late teens when he lands the role.  In any event, I think this is a great move by Sony and I definitely think Webb will deliver some very quality movies.

I also think that Sony is planning on naming the next three flicks, "The Amazing Spider-Man", "The Spectacular Spider-Man", and "Web of Spider-Man", following what WB did with "The Dark Knight".  If memory serves, Sam Raimi was a big fan of using the comic titles for the movies, but Sony (for some reason) shied away from doing it.
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post #290 of 515
1/20/10 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by Chuck Anstey View Post

Peter Parker was in college when he became Spiderman. 

 


No, he was in high school.
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post #291 of 515
1/20/10 at 10:54am
first 30- issues or so of spiderman are set in high school and even shows his graduation. his whole basis of personality was because of flash thompson being the cool jock.
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post #292 of 515
1/20/10 at 11:18am
I read that Logan Lerman has a shot at the title role, but he's already in the "Percy Jackson  & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief" franchise-in-the-making.
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post #293 of 515
1/20/10 at 12:03pm


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I read that Logan Lerman has a shot at the title role, but he's already in the "Percy Jackson  & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief" franchise-in-the-making.

I think that would be a really solid choice, who cares if he's in another movie? "Franchise-in-the-making" seems dubious for a February release as well.
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post #294 of 515
1/20/10 at 12:03pm
Seeing actors attached to more than one franchise is becoming the norm in Hollywood right now.  Robert Downey Jr. is headlining both Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes, Johnny Depp has both 'Pirates of the Caribbean' and a pair or franchise-friendly projects with "Dark Shadows" and "The Lone Ranger", Christian Bale has Batman and Terminator, Ryan Reynolds will be playing both Green Lantern and Deadpool in separate series, Harrison Ford was both Han Solo and Indiana Jones during the early 80s, Sly Stallone also played Rocky  and Rambo during that time, Will Smith is said to be planning on headlining "Hancock 2" and "Men in Black 3", and so on.
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post #295 of 515
1/20/10 at 2:49pm
But, those are 'men', Logan just turned 18, he might not be up to the task of headlining 2 franchises (both mentally and physically), but he'd be crazy to turn down Spider-Man and stick with Percy Jackson.
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post #296 of 515
1/20/10 at 2:55pm
Raimi based his Spider-Man on the 1960's comic books he grew up on. From what I hear, Sony wants it based on the Ultimate Spider-Man books. Now if done right it may just please everyone but even though Sony handed over the director's reighn to Webb, I doubt he'll have creative control. It'll really be Sony and Marvel deciding what will be n the big screen which means it'll just be another Twilight movie
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post #297 of 515
1/20/10 at 8:15pm


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Originally Posted by Shane D View Post

first 30- issues or so of spiderman are set in high school and even shows his graduation. his whole basis of personality was because of flash thompson being the cool jock.
Fair enough.  I grew up on the '67 cartoons and he was in college and all other incarnations I have seen have him in college.  So was PP in his senior year when he became Spiderman in the comics or did he have several years of high school as Spiderman?

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post #298 of 515
1/20/10 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by Chuck Anstey View Post

So was PP in his senior year when he became Spiderman in the comics or did he have several years of high school as Spiderman?

 


My recollection is that he was just "in high school" and they didn't get specific about what year until he was graduating.
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post #299 of 515
1/20/10 at 8:47pm
Yeah.  More recently, it's been established that he was 15 and I think a sophomore.
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post #300 of 515
1/21/10 at 6:13am
Well I would prefer a college age Spiderman so that we don't have all the usual sneaking out on your guardian (Aunt May) and high school angst that seems to detract from the story.  I find it more interesting when our hero has to decide if he should pursue being a super hero or pursue his normal goals of college degree and a regular job.  I thought the cartoon versions handled Flash Thompson as the cool jock from PP high school days that is now BMOC at the same college so the rivalry and history are still there.  From that POV I like the way the movie handled it; got his powers in high school but became the full hero fighting super villains in college and didn't waste much screen time in high school.

I would think in any reboot/restart they would skip the origin piece and simply put it in the intro credits and Marvel flash cards at the start of the movie so the movie starts with PP being Spiderman or at least having his powers and Uncle Ben already being dead, regardless of age.  Sure it could delve more into the period when between that event and transformation into Spiderman but no need to waste 25 minutes getting bit by a spider and having Uncle Ben be killed again.


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