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Spider-Man 4: July 3rd, 2012

post #1 of 514
4/6/07 at 1:55am
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This is the new thread for all news for the Fourth Spiderman movie.

I will kick off with the latest Tobey Maguire news

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index...ory=3&id=40891

Tobey Maguire, who reprises the role of Peter Parker in the upcoming Spider-Man 3, told SCI FI Wire in February that he remained open to a fourth film, with reservations. This despite earlier reports that the third webslinger movie would be his last. Maguire is not contractually bound to do a fourth film.

"Well, it's possible that we make another movie," Maguire said in an interview. "It all depends on if there's a story worth telling. I feel very proud of the three movies that we've made. I feel like the stories all deserve to be told, and, you know, if they come up with a good movie, and the whole team wants to get back together, and we feel like we can make a good movie that's worth making, then I'm up for it."

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post #2 of 514
4/6/07 at 4:51am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

That's good to hear, especially if they can keep the team together. But it is far too early to say whether this will happen. Cast and crew's salaries will have to go up and contracts will have to be re-negotiated. Sony may decide it simply costs too much. Remember after the release of Austin Powers 3, Mike Myers said he'd like to do a fourth, and play the character for as long as he could, but the studio and the actors and director could never come to an agreement, and here we are, 5 years later, with no fourth film in sight.
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post #3 of 514
4/6/07 at 5:05am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

If Raimi ends up doing the two 'Hobbit' movies for New Line, than I seriously doubt either Tobey Maguire or Kirsten Dunst will return for a fourth movie. If that happens, Sony will hire two new leads and ink them both to at least three-picture deals.

If Raimi does opt to do something else and take a break from the Spidey franchise, I'm sure he'll return to helm another one somewhere down the line. The question is who will Sony replace him with if any of these things ends up happening? With work on a new script already underway, Sony probably wants the movie in theaters either the summer of 2009.

With the Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus, Sandman, and Venom having been successfully brought to the screen in this "first" trilogy of films. Don't be surprised if we see the big screen incarnations of the Lizard, Rhino, the Black Cat, and Electro for the second trilogy.
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post #4 of 514
4/6/07 at 7:10am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Looking forward to the casting news of the Black Cat.
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post #5 of 514
4/6/07 at 12:10pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

S3 will rock the box office so a 4th will be in the works, no doubt about that and I'm sure a 20 million paycheck or so waved in Tobey's face will get his attention to come back!
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post #6 of 514
4/8/07 at 10:21pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

in an interview in a mag called "rocket" i think haden church said he was essentialy given the job for 3 about 1 year before the film had been started.

he also mentioned that the other villain was not venon but one who is the complete opposite of venom.
i think he said polar opposite

they even had an actor in mind for it and he wouldnt say because it was expected to be used for a later movie.
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post #7 of 514
4/9/07 at 5:13am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

"haden church said he was essentialy given the job for 3 about 1 year before the film had been started."

Raimi had started working on ideas for SM3 only a month or so after SM2 had been released so that not suprising if they knew they wanted Church.
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post #8 of 514
4/9/07 at 7:11am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Regarding the new villain (or at least one of them) in Spiderman 4:

(The following is a Spiderman 3 spoiler)

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Bruce Campbell has a role as Quentin Beck in #3, so one of the villains in Spiderman 4 could be Mysterio
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post #9 of 514
4/9/07 at 7:29am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Seriously? That's hilarious, considering what they did in the Ultimate Spider-Man comic when the last movie came out.
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post #10 of 514
4/9/07 at 10:40am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

If they do a 4th they should make it Kraven the Hunter
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post #11 of 514
4/9/07 at 11:20am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Kraven and The Lizard could really work well in a story together.
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post #12 of 514
4/9/07 at 11:36am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

I think 4 would be good for a team-up movie. Just have to figure out what studio has the rights to the other Marvel properties. Although, I am sure another studio would work with Fox to get some sort of piece of the Spidey franchise.
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post #13 of 514
4/28/07 at 4:37am
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re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Here are some more comments from TM on No 4

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/spider34.php

Question: If they were to ever make a superhero team up film for Spiderman 4, would you consider being a bit player, say Spiderman in an Avengers type movie?

Maguire: I don't know. It depends, I guess. It depends on what the movie was or who the filmmaker was, I mean, that would probably be pretty complicated in terms of just getting different studios to figure out with, as they have the rights to those certain characters, it would probably be pretty hard to figure out. But let's just say in the fantasy world that it was all figured out, it depends. If there was a filmmaker I loved and my part, you know, I could go in and it would be more of a fun little thing where I worked for a couple of days, I wouldn't--I probably wouldn't go and work for several months and be in an ensemble type of thing, no. I mean, you never no, but I really doubt it. Would I walk through a scene and have a little conversation as Peter Parker with a little red suit showing that was just a fun little moment with a director that I loved in a movie that I thought would be great? Yeah, maybe I would consider that.
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post #14 of 514
4/28/07 at 7:15am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

A team up will never happen with Spider-Man... at least not until the franchise dies down. The studio wouldn't waste on it, he's too big on his own. Usually a team up movie is only when both characters have run their course. I doubt the studio would go for that especially when so much can still be made on a single Spider-Man movie.
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post #15 of 514
4/28/07 at 1:58pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

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Originally Posted by TerryRL
If Raimi ends up doing the two 'Hobbit' movies for New Line, than I seriously doubt either Tobey Maguire or Kirsten Dunst will return for a fourth movie. If that happens, Sony will hire two new leads and ink them both to at least three-picture deals.
Fine by me. Ms. Dunst's recent egotistical comments to the contrary, I wouldn't mind if the characters were recast for future installments. I love the current trilogy, but don't think any of the lead actors involved bring anything "special" to their roles that would be greatly missed if they were replaced. I would keep the supporting cast, though, such as JK Simmons and Rosemary Harris.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryRL
If Raimi does opt to do something else and take a break from the Spidey franchise, I'm sure he'll return to helm another one somewhere down the line. The question is who will Sony replace him with if any of these things ends up happening? With work on a new script already underway, Sony probably wants the movie in theaters either the summer of 2009.
Is Brett Ratner free? Fox was very happy with X3.
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post #16 of 514
5/2/07 at 1:28pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malcolm R
Is Brett Ratner free? Fox was very happy with X3.

Dear God, no Rattner!!!

As for the possible villians in 4, I'd like to see Kraven and Lizard especially since Dr. Curt Connor has been in the other films and is already set up quite nicely. Mysterio would be cool as well. I bet the CG on his character would look awesome.
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post #17 of 514
5/2/07 at 1:59pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malcolm R
Is Brett Ratner free? Fox was very happy with X3.

Ugh, please no. Fox might have been happy, but most fans of the movies, fans of the comics and critics felt that X3 was inferior to the previous installments. X3 might have had some cool action, but it seemed to have no respect or time for the characters and although I am not the biggest Spiderman fan (really like the movies--especially the second one) it is a series that needs a director who has the patience and insight to deal with the characters.
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post #18 of 514
5/2/07 at 10:59pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Here's the current 411 on the status of Spidey 4.

Read this article...

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Tobey...orms-5092.html

Mo Money!
Mo Money!
Mo Money!
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post #19 of 514
5/3/07 at 6:16am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

If Japan's opening represent's what may happen here in the states then I don't think that would be an issue. Japan's had record breaking openings for this film according to the news this morning. I like the idea of a fourth one and a start of a new trilogy if that's the path they would take.
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post #20 of 514
5/3/07 at 12:34pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

I for one wouldn't mind seeing some new actors playing these roles. I like the SM movies because I get to see my favorite childhood superhero on the big screen doing specatuclar things, not because of Tobey McGuire's acting. Granted, I wouldn't want some hack up there playing PP/SM and I do like what he brings to the films, but it's just not my main reason for liking these movies. *HOWEVER*, if it turns into the abomination that the Batman franchise went through, I'll be disappointed.
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post #21 of 514
5/5/07 at 8:20am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

This site claims 100% that the villains for "Spider-Man 4" have been already chosen. And they are The Lizard and Carnage. Check it out...

http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/blo...-Already!.html

"Our regular scooper tells FreezeDriedMovies that plans are underway for Spider-Man 4, which were (obviously) set up in the third film. In the third entry, Dr. Curt Connors (played by Dylan Baker) looks at a piece of symbiote with Peter Parker. The movie then travels along it's path without another mention of that "piece" of symbiote. This is the set up for Spider-Man 4 where that small piece of alien symbiote becomes CARNAGE. Yes Cletus Cassidy is coming to the big screen, one of Spider-Man most horrifying and evil villains. Not only with Parker have to deal with the red lean mean killing machine, but Connors is set to become the long awaited LIZARD! these two villains have all been CONFIRMED for Spider-Man 4. There is talk of the Black Cat making her first appearance, but that's all but official."
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post #22 of 514
5/5/07 at 10:37am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Sony has already commissioned a script (from Indy IV scribe David Koepp), so this doesn't surprise me. If they do go with new leads in the roles of Peter Parker and MJ, on top of hiring a new director, than this one could hit theaters during the summer of '09. I do know that Sony's original goal to have a new Spidey flick every other year.

The Lizard would be this movie's sympathetic villain (ala Doc Ock and Sandman), while Carnage will hopefully be handled a lot better than Venom was. Black Cat would give Spidey both a new ally and new love interest.

Sandman could return sometime during the next trilogy (hopefully still being played by Thomas Haden Church who is one of the bright spots of Spidey 3), which could also see Spidey tangling with Rhino, the Vulture, Electro, and possibly Mysterio or Hobgoblin. Sony has a long list of baddies to choose from since Spidey's only real rivals in the rogue's gallery department among other big screen superheroes is Batman and the X-Men.

Spidey 3 will push the franchise's worldwide box office mark to well over $2 billion (something only four other franchises have managed to do) and Sony is in no hurry to put an end to this cash cow.
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post #23 of 514
5/5/07 at 11:29am

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

I really hope Koeppe does write the next film.

And I know people have issues with him, but I hope Tobey stays.

Also I know Fox were monitoring the internet for X3, so Im sure Sony has guys over at places like SHH seeing whats been said about SM3.
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post #24 of 514
5/5/07 at 12:27pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Maguire being replaced will purely be a cost issue. The studio is in no hurry to fork over $25-$30 million for him to return for just one movie. They can pay that to another actor over the course of three films rather than one. Plus, Tobey's age (he'll be 32 in June) is starting to become an issue with some of the execs at Sony. The powers-that-be want to keep the role of Peter Parker being played by a twentysomething rather than a thirtysomething.

While Maguire wouldn't likely turn down a huge $25-$30 million payday, he has expressed a very strong desire to do the same sort of smaller work he was known for before he did the first Spidey flick. He often sites his favorite work being in films like "Pleasantville", "The Cider House Rules", Wonder Boys", and "Seabiscuit" (for which he was also one of the producers).

At this point, the studio will very likely change actors every three or four movies. The same tactic will be applied with the role of Mary Jane as well. This way, in the minds of the execs, the series will remain "fresh" and relevant to the key movie-going demo of 15-30 year olds.

Studios are now regularly using message board "plants" or "watchers" in regards to genre pictures. This is a tactic that started in the late '90s and has grown from there. Studio heads, as well as producers, directors, and writers, do love to know what is being said about their product.
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post #25 of 514
5/5/07 at 12:51pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryRL
At this point, the studio will very likely change actors every three or four movies. The same tactic will be applied with the role of Mary Jane as well. This way, in the minds of the execs, the series will remain "fresh" and relevant to the key movie-going demo of 15-30 year olds.

I guess sort of what they did with the Batman franchise with "Batman Forever". They kept a loose continuity with the previous films but recast most of everyone except for a few small roles like Alfred to keep that continuity. I wonder if they go with a new cast if they'll keep the same Aunt May.
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post #26 of 514
5/5/07 at 1:47pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

[SARCASM]Yeah and those movies didn't get progressively worse like many feared.[/SARCASM]

I am pleased that Koepp is writing the script and I have to admit I wouldn't hate it if they changed the leads. I have never been a big fan of Dunst or to a lesser extent Maguire.
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post #27 of 514
5/5/07 at 2:07pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Rosemary Harris (Aunt May), JK Simmons (J. Jonah Jameson), Dylan Baker (Dr. Connors), Elizabeth Banks (Betty Brant), Bill Nunn (Robbie), Bryce Howard (Gwen Stacy), and James Cromwell (Capt. Stacy) are all expected to return for the next set of movies.

Sony will only look to replace the pieces of the Spidey puzzle that cost them the most money, i.e. Maguire, Dunst, and Raimi. Of the three, Raimi will remain with the franchise as one of the producers (probably in name only).
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post #28 of 514
5/5/07 at 2:42pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

If it's true that a script has already been commissioned (why do you guys WANT Koepp? This man has never written a great script), and gone so far to already establish the villains then it sounds to me like Sony decided a while back to move forward without Raimi. I can't imagine him being up for that and I'm sure Maguire and Dunst won't either.

Unfortunately it also looks like Sony isn't interested in finding someone with a strong vision to guide the series into new territory, just a hired gun to carry out the committee's will. It's strictly Batman Forevers and X3s from here on out I'm betting.
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post #29 of 514
5/5/07 at 2:45pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidPla
"Our regular scooper tells FreezeDriedMovies that plans are underway for Spider-Man 4, which were (obviously) set up in the third film. In the third entry, Dr. Curt Connors (played by Dylan Baker) looks at a piece of symbiote with Peter Parker. The movie then travels along it's path without another mention of that "piece" of symbiote. This is the set up for Spider-Man 4 where that small piece of alien symbiote becomes CARNAGE. Yes Cletus Cassidy is coming to the big screen, one of Spider-Man most horrifying and evil villains. Not only with Parker have to deal with the red lean mean killing machine, but Connors is set to become the long awaited LIZARD! these two villains have all been CONFIRMED for Spider-Man 4. There is talk of the Black Cat making her first appearance, but that's all but official."

If this is true, I'd be pretty psyched. I'd really love to see what the Lizard would look like. As far as McGuire and Dunst, I'm over them both. I just back from seeing SM3 and three films with these two is enough, bring on some new actors.
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post #30 of 514
5/5/07 at 4:05pm

re: Spider-Man 4: May 6th, 2011

I'd like to see a change of season for the next Spider-Man film as well. Would love to see Spidey swinging during winter with snow falling down. Would be a nice visual change.
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