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One thing I always wondered about, though, when he walks out to his car do you think that he would be able to hear the gunfire coming the roof at that distance? I could never be sure because the building looked like it wasn't all that far away and you'd be able to hear faint echo's of the gunfire.

Yes, I think the same thing every time I watch the movie. They're on the roof of the building firing machine guns out in the open. Somebody would have heard something. When they show the building far away, you can see flashes of light from the gunfire as well. Why didn't Powell notice that? That's about the only thing that bugs me about Die Hard. Still a great movie.
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Originally Posted by BarryS
When they show the building far away, you can see flashes of light from the gunfire as well. Why didn't Powell notice that?

The flashing lights weren't gunfire they were beacons, they can be seen flashing when John first emerges on the roof before Karl and his men got up there.
post #93 of 125

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The flashing lights weren't gunfire they were beacons, they can be seen flashing when John first emerges on the roof before Karl and his men got up there.
Oh, I always thought that the flashing lights were gunfire as well. But you are right, there are flashing beacons when John goes up there. Never put that together with the lights that Al must have seen.
post #94 of 125
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Yep, just don't ask me to tell you what the heck they're for lol, I wish we had someone in this thread who lives near the Fox Plaza who could tell us if those lights actually exist on the building and what they're used for.
post #95 of 125

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Yep, just don't ask me to tell you what the heck they're for lol, I wish we had someone in this thread who lives near the Fox Plaza who could tell us if those lights actually exist on the building and what they're used for.
So helicopters can be guided towards the lights?
post #96 of 125
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So helicopters can be guided towards the lights?

This is what I classify as a 'DUH!' moment.

Helicopters of course!
post #97 of 125

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Really? Wow, I never noticed that. I always assumed it was gunfire. Still, I would think that gunfire from automatic weapons would be very audible. I'm certainly no expert though. Maybe not.
post #98 of 125

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One part that I never understood was when John first arrives at the building and uses the touch-screen directory to locate Holly, the reception guy tells him AFTER he locates her on the 30th floor..."The party, they're the only one's left in the building."

Well if they were the only ones in the entire building why didn't he just direct John to go to the 30th floor before he went through all the hassel of using that computer? It can't be because the writers wanted him to see that she was using her maiden name 'Generro' because John saw that name on the door to her office before they had the argument.

I always just assumed that the dude in the lobby just liked showing that computer off to people lol.

Because the guy at the desk didn't know where in the building Holly worked. I would imagine that more people work at the building than just the people at the party. Depending on where she worked in the building she might not be included in the party.
post #99 of 125

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I have a question also: When Gruber goes upstairs by himself later in the movie and is confronted by McClane, does John recognize him right away and just pretend that he doesn't? Seems to me that McClane would recognize that very distinctive voice right away. This would seem to be the case since he gives Gruber a gun with no bullets.[/quote]


Hans to Takagi: "Nice suite. John Phillips - London. I have two myself."

Even a cigarette smoking, beer drinking, blue collar detective like McClane would recognize an expensive suit. Ellis was impressed by a Rolex, Takagi and Hans by a quality well tailored suit.
post #100 of 125
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Had to revive this thread for this...quite possibly the coolest music video i've ever seen in my lifetime lol (I defy you not to hum it for the rest of the day)!

(Some explicit lyrics)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTyw6cq86kY

And of course one the funniest parodies of all time courtesy of The Ben Stiller Show ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGfmfPYiO1w
post #101 of 125

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this past summer, I bought the 3 pack from target. I had not seen the original film in a long time. I must say that I enjoyed it once again after all these years. I also liked die hard 4. I also saw the sign for the low price of gas.. I had forgotten how low it was at that time.
I had only been driving for like more then 6 months at the time.

Jacob
post #102 of 125

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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
Had to revive this thread for this...quite possibly the coolest music video i've ever seen in my lifetime lol (I defy you not to hum it for the rest of the day)!

(Some explicit lyrics)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTyw6cq86kY
That one actually got included on the DH4 DVD...
post #103 of 125
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^^Are you serious!? Oh man that's awesome lol! I hadn't looked at the specs for the dvd so I didn't know that, I was just wondering where I could download now I don't have to.
post #104 of 125

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"Yep, just don't ask me to tell you what the heck they're for lol, I wish we had someone in this thread who lives near the Fox Plaza who could tell us if those lights actually exist on the building and what they're used for."

I live about 3 miles away from Fox Plaza. The next time I'm in that direction at night, I'll take a look to see if there are white flashing lights (I doubt it). Most tall structures have slow flashing red lights to warn away aircraft.

As for hearing the sounds of the gunshots, I kind of doubt it. He's standing on Olympic Blvd what looks to be a mile or so away from Fox Plaza, and there's a fair amount of traffic. Plus, I would imagine there's some wind up there, and it's usually blowing from the West toward the East (from behind Powell toward the building).

p.s. I always took those flashes to be muzzle flashes from the gunfight.
post #105 of 125
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Originally Posted by Don Solosan
I always took those flashes to be muzzle flashes from the gunfight.

The reason I always took them as being beacons was that Al didn't seem put off by them at all, he reacted as if they were an ordinary occurance. Plus like I said they could be seen flashing when McClane first arrived on the roof to call for help and I believe they could also be seen in the far away shot of the entire building (the scene where the news van is heading to Holly's house) right after the vault is opened and the thieves start looting it and there was no gunfight taking place on the roof at that time.

If buildings use red lights then that would make sense, in fact I tend to believe that, it's possible that the strobing lights were placed there by the production team to make the roof more visually interesting on film.
post #106 of 125

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Okay, I went by Fox Plaza tonight. For the record, there are no flashing white lights around the roof. There are red lights, and those are on steady, no strobing on and off.
post #107 of 125

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I always thought the flashes were gunfire but that's because I knew a gunfight was going on up there. There is also a musical sting at that moment. Powell might have seen them but not thought much of it.

As for Hans on the roof; John gives him the gun after he gives him a cigarette. Hans made no comment about the cigarette but the film made a point to let us know that John thought they were European based on their cigarettes. He even took a pause before he said cigarettes.
post #108 of 125
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Originally Posted by Don Solosan
Okay, I went by Fox Plaza tonight. For the record, there are no flashing white lights around the roof. There are red lights, and those are on steady, no strobing on and off.


Good to know, thanks. I honestly don't know what to make of the Al-sees-the-roof scene, I guess it could be left up to interperatation, myself I believe it was beacons he saw.

John paused before he said cigaretts because he thought he heard something.

Man I want to buy Live Free or Die Hard in the worst way but my best friend won't let me, I think she got it for me for Christmas. A Die Hard movie for Christmas, how appropriate is that lol?
post #109 of 125

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Put me in the always thought they were supposed to be muzzle flashes camp.
post #110 of 125
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One more revival, I picked up the series on BD and they rock! The excessive ringing and EE that plagued the DVD's of DHWAV is completely gone! The film is a revalation on BD as it's incredibly great to be able to watch it without all that distracting video noise.

I watched LFODH last weekend and it gave my theater quite the work-out.
post #111 of 125

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Yeah, the films look incredible on Blu-ray, I did a Die Hard marathon last weekend. I noticed lots of little previously unseen details like the pattern on Ellis' suit and Bruce Willis' tattoo was very clear and easy to make out. Also, in Die Hard 2 I noticed that Holly had a document that brandished a large Nakatomi logo, a nice detail.

I haven't picked-up Die Hard 4.0 on Blu-ray yet, I'm waiting for the Unrated Cut - I watched the DVD though, great fun.
post #112 of 125

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Why didn't the black guy have a death scene? He just gets punched out by Argyle and is forgotten.
post #113 of 125

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Why didn't the black guy have a death scene?
Because he didn't die. I think it's safe to assume that he's eventually discovered in the ambulance by the police or FBI and gets arrested.
post #114 of 125
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Yeah, Argyle just knocked the wind out of him long enough to be picked up by police.

I love that scene, the black guy wasn't vicious enough to deserve to die (he was just a glorified locksmith afterall) so getting his lights punched out was a much deserved fate for him.
post #115 of 125

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He was pretty callous and really deserved a death scene.

BTW, they ARE muzzle flashes.
post #116 of 125
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Originally Posted by Gary Seven
He was pretty callous and really deserved a death scene.

BTW, they ARE muzzle flashes.

Having watched the film again recently on BD it appears as though the flashes are coming from one of the sub-structures of the roof and not the roof itself, plus they seem to extend across the entire expanse of the roof and there were only two bad guys + John there, not enough people/gunfire to cause the almost non-stop flashing we see when Al looks up.

Plus, again, the flashing is visible when John first gets up there.
post #117 of 125
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How do you guys like my lil' McClane?

I modified it a bit, I made the cigarette, added and enhanced the blood on his shirt, added the small cut on his eyebrow, added the wound on his shoulder where he was shot by Karl, added the torn shirt on his bloody foot (yeah I know, he used his shirt in the film so he should now be bare chested but I said what the hell lol) and added the walkie talkie on his belt.





post #118 of 125

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YouTube - Die Hard - Music Video - NEW 4th Verse!

That one actually got included on the DH4 DVD...

Loved the video. Had no idea it was included on the DVD. When it came out there were a number of not complimentary comments on the video and how bad it was so, since I'd never heard of the band nor recalled any good songs from the movie, I never watched it.
post #119 of 125
 Theo getting punched out by Argyle was perfect. Here was this smart nerdy computer guy who was so cocky (you didn't just bring me along for my good looks) only to get his in the end with a simple punch by a kid just as small as him.
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 So this is John McClane before he climbs through the air duct, changing the color of his shirt?  But wait!  Karl shooting him, and the wound to his feet happen after the air duct, so it has to be later...  But he has a cigarette, and he smoked his last cig with Hans...  Help!  The contradictions are short-circuiting my brain!
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