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Does the screencap of the Betty Boop/Popeye title card look crooked to you, or do I need new glasses?

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Just picked up a copy. It looks very much like a Disney Treasures tin, but the metal is considerably thinner (if that is even possible!) Those expecting the same kind of tin used to house the Ultimate Superman Collection will likely be disappointed. For free, I am not complaining, but if you can't find one, you are not really missing out on much IMO. Also, good luck trying to find a tin that is not damaged in some way. I went through every tin in the store and picked out what I thought was the best. When I removed the shrinkwrap and cardboard tray-card back, I discovered that the back of the tin had three dents beneath the card. Finally, FWIW, my Best Buy only had tins in stock, so this edition may not be as limited as their weekly ad suggests.

With all that said, I can't wait to start watching this set tonight!!

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Someone on Cartoon Research heard a report that some of the shorts are taken from Cartoon Network prints...anyone know anything about this?

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I think some people love to believe something is wrong, even when everything is right. They aren't happy unless they can find some flaw to moan and piss over. So typical.....So pitiful.

Happily that person on Jerry Beck's website is full of (expletive deleted) and it is Mr. Beck who has clarified the authenticity and greatness of these cartoons, and the whole overall set.

So you need not worry about the false information that person posted on the web.

The truth is that Cartoon Network ran 1" analog transfers done in the '80s from 35mmrelease prints. They later electronically enhanced these masters to try and add original titles cribbed from 16mm collector prints. The only caveat to that is the very last Popeye color cartoons never had the Paramount logos cut off, so those were always intact.

I got mine early this morning and I am over the moon. I never thought I'd see this actually happen, and thank goodness it was done correctly and with obvious great care.

Warner has restored these from nitrate and they look amazing. It is obvious not every cartoon was 100% perfect condition, but they did a great job and used no DVNR. The sound is quite surprising, too. Problems inherent in the nitrate masters from which derivative prints and dupes were made over the years would be visible in transfers many generations away, but there's no denying this is the real deal, just as advertised. I'm loving these.

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Thanks, Roger....the only other thing I noticed that was of any concern is that the Betty Boop/Popeye cartoon that the site showed screenshots of looked crooked...would this have been a mistake when the film was first printed?

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I agree 100%. I used to think that I was the definition of a pessimist but some people on the internet make me seem like a happy go lucky type of guy.

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It's probably still early for this but this has my vote for dvd set of the year so far. I bought this on a whim and I've been watching this way more than 300 or Hot Fuzz. I can't belive how many bonus features they have. Besides all that they are really intresting.

I'm sure some other set will beat it by the end of the year but what a great set for popeye.

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I bought the tin today at Best Buy. Usually I don't mess around with tin editions, but I figured that with rough and tough ol' Popeye and his fists of steel, the tin suited the situation pretty well!

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How are the discs housed within the tin?

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I don't have the tin so I could be wrong but I assumed that the regular package is just placed into the tin.

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The regular carboard package set is inside the tin. I picked mine up tonight and have been enjoying cherry-picking my way through the set. Loving it!! The docs are very good, and the first two Technicolor 2-reelers are stunning. There are definitely signs of nitrate decomposition on several b&w's but they're not overly distracting.

For those who may wish to be on the lookout, Reg Hartt noted over at Jerry Beck's Cartoon Research Animation History forum, he bought the standard box at Toronto's Sunrise Records, and discovered the set had 2 copies of disc 3 and no disc 1. Other sets in their stock also had this problem.

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I ordered my set from deepdiscount and received it yesterday. Yhe set is stunning. During the 1960's and 1970's Long Island we saw the cartoons on WPIX channel ll. Captain Jack was the host during the 1960's. What is amazing though these toons have been off broadcast tv since at least 1986 once Ted Turner bought the MGM film Library, but the minute I played my favorite Popeye cartoon THE MAN ON THE FLYING TRAPEZE I remembered each frame of the cartoon! This cartoon has non-stop music that just grabs you and does not let go for the entire running time, the arrangement of the music is wonderful. The song the toon was named after also was part of a great scene in IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT and had caught the country by storm!

The color on the 2 reel POPEYE MEETS ALI BABA is stunning, the best I have ever seen. A question though wasn't the set supposed to include a doc on the Fleischer Studio?

According to www.popeye.com the next set is due in Summer 08' I cannot wait to see what ALADDINS LAMP looks like!

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I received my copy yesterday and perused Disc 1- An excellent disc that nostalgically takes me back to my own early childhood watching Captain Tugboat on WTTG Channel 5 in Washington, DC. My only memory of the Kennedy Assasination is tied to this: Captain Tugboat was preempted so adults could watch the news that day. At two and a half, I remember being angry I was missing Popeye that afternoon. Guess it was fate I would become a TV and movie junkie! LOL!

Anyone else remember Captain Tugboat?

Jack

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Got the POPEYE Vol. 1 yesterday from Best Buy (in collectors tin). OMG! Incredible remastering! The b&w shorts are amazingly clear and pristine. It's amazing the elements from 1933 - 1938 are in such great condition! The two color features (I watched one "Ali Baba")look amazingly vibrant, clean and new. If you're a fan go out and buy it today! It's like they were made today!

Between this and the Looney Tunes box sets I'm reliving my childhood

Regards,
Howard
aka "Beatle Bob"

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The Best Buy tin is very close to the Walt Disney Treasures series if only slightly thinner. The tin cover mimics that of the regular case cover but has Popeye stamped into it (i.e. he stands out off the flat surface). The tin also has a small Popeye label along the side to differentiate it from the WDT series when placed on the shelf. All in all not bad and fortunately, unlike Gary, I didn't have a hard time finding one without damage.

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I'm thinking it must have been a local show. Those were the days when local TV stations did more than just News. What city did you grow up in?

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According to this website: (http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/...t=9646&page=7), the Popeye DVD was mostly NOT remastered from the original negatives, and the titles are riddled with numerous careless errors. Some shorts might even be DVNR'd.

So much for this (The Droopy Set and the Woody Woodpecker sets, despite their problems, were not nearly as disappointing)

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I have the 3 features on LD and they looked pretty good at the time. Then VCI released the 75th Anniversary of Popeye cartoons and they looked even better. Last night I compared "Sinbad"...my gosh, it's night and day, the VCI edition has no color at all!

It was the same with the Image Diamond Edition of all 17 Superman cartoons. They looked great on LD, sorta better on DVD, but the ones on the Superman Box Set blew away all the others! It was unbelievable what beautiful colors were actually in the cartoon, the same with this new edition.

I haven't even seen the b&w's and can't wait for them.

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I checked the original press release announcing the box and it mentions a doc on The Fleischer Studio and the New York Style of the Popeye toons, does anyone know if these were canceled or just bumped to the second set?

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Yeah- Captain Tugboat was Washington, DC. And it was definitely a local show!!

Jack

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I never saw Warner Brothers say that they were going back to the negatives. What are the "numerous careless errors" that the self-appointed Cartoon Police have found?

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As was stated earlier in this thread, this is simply not the case. The films look great, they've never looked better on any home video format, and Jerry Beck has given his support to the final product. At this point some people are simply fighting battles for no other reason than to have something to fight about.

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In response to RobertGr's question, there's no mention of the Fleischer doc on my set - about the closest thing is something on disc 2 callled "Forging the Fram: The Roots of Animation 1900-1920." There also is no trace of the comic book which I believe was also mentioned in the first announcement.
Hey, with the way this set looks (and that gorgeous tin from Best Buy) I'm a happy camper - but I do hope the missing docs make it on the next volume.

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Popeye The Sailor 1933-1938 Volume 1 includes more than nine hours of cartoons -- 58 (7- to10-minute) theatrical black-and white-shorts and two two-reeler 20-minute color cartoons. Some of the most memorable shorts from the DVD are the remastered “Blow Me Down!” and a cameo appearance by Betty Boop dressed as a hula dancer in the 1933 “Popeye the Sailor” cartoon, the short in which Popeye made his first animated appearance. The four-Disc DVD set also includes the Academy Award-nominated “Popeye The Sailor Meets Sindbad the Sailor” and more than five hours of incredible bonus features, including:

* Popeye Commentaries – Including historians, animators and filmmakers
* “Behind the Toons” – These featurettes are in depth looks at select cartoons, characters and creators
* “I Yam What I Am: The Story of Popeye the Sailor Man” – All-new documentary
* “The Evolution of Animation: The History of the Fleischer Studios” – All-new documentary
* “Max Fleischer and the New York Style” – All-new documentary
* Bonus Popeye Shorts – Including “Let’s Sing with Popeye” and “Popular Science”
* Bonus Fleischer Cartoons – Including “Poor Cinderella,” “Raggedy Ann and Raggedy Andy” and “Superman”

Thanks Mike, I didn't mean to imply my set mentioned the docs, if that was the impression I am sorry. Above though is copied part of the press release from the first announcement. Notice also missing are POOR CINDERELLA and RAGGEDY ANN AND RAGGEDY ANDY besides the mentioned docs. Can someone get an answer from Warners if this will be part of the next set

This is not meant to complain as this is a WONDER of a release. But it will give us something to look forward too!!

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I think someone said that some of the titles were recreated, and some credits are wrong and/or omitted. I really don't care, though...look at the Mickey Mouse cartoons..they didn't have all of their original titles and I thoroughly enjoyed each and every one!

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Fun bit of trivia: "The Man On the Flying Trapeze" was composed in 1867!