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Simon & Simon Season 2??

post #1 of 85
3/25/07 at 8:36pm
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Although not as popular as Magnum P.I. I thought that Simon & Simon had enough of a following to get at least the first four or five seasons released. It's not a good sign that we haven't heard anything about season two. Anyone out there know anything??
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post #2 of 85
3/25/07 at 9:12pm

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I am waiting on this one aswell!!
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post #3 of 85
3/26/07 at 1:28am

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It was on for 8 seasons, and even had a reunion movie. I'm sure it has a following equal to, or greater than Magnum. Forget the first 4 or 5 seasons, I want them all!

I'm waiting for the next season too.
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post #4 of 85
3/26/07 at 9:18am

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Yup, I want them all too. You'd have thought if it did well a second season would've been announced by now? I really hope seasons 2+ are released. I love the show!!
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post #5 of 85
11/14/07 at 12:07pm

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Has anyone heard anything else about this set yet? I've been putting off buying the first season ... I'm wondering if maybe Universal has abandoned the series ...
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post #6 of 85
11/14/07 at 12:46pm

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Mark,

Simon & Simon Season 1 was released on the same day as one of the Magnum P.I. releases. During the time right before and right after their releases, I saw the Simon & Simon Amazon.com sales ranking much lower than Magnum's. While this only tallies Amazon's sales, I like to use Amazon's sales as a benchmark for dvd popularity (assuming an equal percentage of people buy from Amazon for all dvds).

I think Magnum has been a pretty consistent upper range seller for Universal, so that might mean Simon & Simon is a more of a borderline case, not an absolute "never again" case. It just depends on how many fewer units it sold.

I'd love to see the totals for these types of older shows. Making up numbers, if Magnum sold 70,000 earning Universal a nice profit, would Simon & Simon's 40,000 units sold earn it another release?
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post #7 of 85
11/15/07 at 1:16am

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I am also waiting for season 2 but have given up hope.. Especially as there were only 13 or so episodes in the 1st season
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post #8 of 85
11/15/07 at 6:34am

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I hate Universal's policy, whatever it is, on TV DVDs, it's one long story of abandonings of popular titles... Let us have them, no matter what, for Pete's sake...
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post #9 of 85
11/17/07 at 12:55pm

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I really wish that Universal would hurry up and announce a release date for Season 2 since nearly all of Universals TV Shows have been released to DVD I doubt Universal has much else to release as far as those old shows go.
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post #10 of 85
11/18/07 at 5:54am

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...since nearly all of Universals TV Shows have been released to DVD I doubt Universal has much else to release as far as those old shows go.

No offense, Mark, but you're kidding, right?

Besides all the shows they've started releasing on DVD and not finished (Simon & Simon, Adam-12, Kojak, Amazing Stories, Leave it to Beaver, Quincy, etc.), they've still got tons of unreleased properties that people out there wouldn't mind having.

Major Dad, Marcus Welby, Whiz Kids, Sheriff Lobo, BJ and the Bear, Centennial, Ellery Queen, Switch, The Gemini Man, Get Christie Love!, Wagon Train, Rich Man Poor Man, B.L. Stryker, House Calls...need I go on? Oh, yeah, you laugh at some of those titles, but I get e-mails asking for them all the time. BJ and the Bear may seem nutty for me to bring up, but it's the 47th most-wanted unreleased show at TSoD.

Of course, Uni will never release the one I want, a forgotten little program called Otherworld.
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post #11 of 85
11/18/07 at 6:31am

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I keep getting asked about BJ & the Bear, I don't think it is nutty, a lot of people grew up with that show, it has a huge nostalgia following. Hopefully that and Sheriff Lobo are high up on their list of potential releases.

From what I read Switch is up my alley and would probably be a worthwhile blind buy to people that like this type of show. I've seen something of the "making of it" on the Hardy Boys Nancy Drew Mysteries Season 2, they were solving a mystery at the studios all of these mystery TV series were made, some other cameos of important 70 series are there and Casey Kasem plays Columbo.

B.L. Stryker is still coming from TV Guide, right?

I am curious about Whiz Kids. I do not think I have seen this but I keep getting images of a Radio Shack comic book in relation to the phrase, any relation?

Also Bring on more Simon & Simon.
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post #12 of 85
11/18/07 at 6:37am

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B.L. Stryker is still coming from TV Guide, right?

Ah, yes, it slipped my mind. Actually coming from Arts Alliance America, as part of their "TV Guide Presents" line-up. Honestly, I'm not sure how much TV Guide has to do with these other than licensing the name/logo to AAA.

It certainly doesn't cross my path, other than I get info about these TV-DVDs the same as I do for any other TV-DVDs.
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post #13 of 85
11/18/07 at 7:22am

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Hey Dave, do you think it's possible that Universal will pick up where they left off 4 or so years ago by releasing one of the TV shows they basically released all at once, e.g kojak quincy mccloud...?
Is there one that you get a lot of e-mails about or Universal are considering?
I know Hardy Boys, Hitchcock presents and Emergency were released around this time and they have had spacious releases.
Thanks
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post #14 of 85
11/18/07 at 1:34pm

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BJ and the Bear may seem nutty for me to bring up, but it's the 47th most-wanted unreleased show at TSoD.


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Originally Posted by Tory
I keep getting asked about BJ & the Bear, I don't think it is nutty, a lot of people grew up with that show, it has a huge nostalgia following. Hopefully that and Sheriff Lobo are high up on their list of potential releases.

Wow, 47th and still no plans on a release. I was a kid when it came on, and watched it every week. And it made me want to become a truck driver.
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post #15 of 85
11/18/07 at 5:24pm

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Dave, lordy oh lordy. I can't believe that anyone else remembered that series. Otherworld was always my favourite and I remember watching it during its initial broadcasts. I just wish Universal would get on the ball regarding the action TV shows that they produced.
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post #16 of 85
11/19/07 at 8:45pm

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I remember otherwold slightly, If i recall correctly it was like 5 or 6 episodes before it was cancelled. But do not hold me to that. I definately hope we will see more Simon & Simon, as the best is yet to come!
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post #17 of 85
11/20/07 at 2:32am

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8 episodes, from January to March of 1985.

Gretchen Corbett and Sam Groom, with Tony O'Dell and the wonderfully evil Jonathan Banks (fresh from a great bad guy role in 48 Hours!).

It's actually ranked decently high among TVShowsOnDVD voters...440th on the unreleased list. I'm hoping that someday Shout! or Arts Alliance America will license it and get it out there, but I'm not holding my breath.

Aryn, love the Shea Stadium logo under your name there.
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post #18 of 85
11/20/07 at 9:24pm

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I'm planning on picking up Simon and Simon Season 1 tomorrow and I hope that Universal makes an announcement soon.
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post #19 of 85
11/23/07 at 4:29pm
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Wow, I started this thread back in March, and still nothing..That sucks..

I found what Jeffo stated to be very interesting. I too would like to see how different the sales figures are between S&S & Magnum.

It's funny. My wife is a huge Murder She Wrote fan. I told her a few years back not to get too excited about the DVD releases, because they probably wouldn't even get to Season 3. Well here we are at Season 7.
I NEVER in a MILLLION YEARS expected the Simon Brothers to get beat out by Angela Lansbury..But, you never know!!


So how about it Dave, what do you think. Can you do some digging to see if this is a dead horse or not?
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post #20 of 85
11/23/07 at 6:10pm

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I believe Murder She Wrote was the #1 show on the day it aired or atleast it's time slot for almost every year it was on the air. So there were probably alot more people who watched that. But it is still surprising to me that Simon & Simon is yet to see a 2nd season. It ran for 8 years and had reunion movies, so it had to have a strong following. Gord told me awhile back that universal told them there will not be anymore releases due to lack of sales. But he also told me that while saying never say never things can change.
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post #21 of 85
11/23/07 at 9:46pm

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That's odd. But Universal claimed Season 1 of Airwolf didn't sell, and had no plans on the other 2 seasons. They finally did release Season 2, it must have sold so good we got the 3rd and final season.

Like that first season of Airwolf, I think it might be a possibility that a lot of people didn't feel like paying full price for what ended up being a half season worth of episodes. I'm sure if they released Season 2 it would sell.
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post #22 of 85
11/24/07 at 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by Aryn Leroux
I believe Murder She Wrote was the #1 show on the day it aired or atleast it's time slot for almost every year it was on the air. So there were probably alot more people who watched that. But it is still surprising to me that Simon & Simon is yet to see a 2nd season. It ran for 8 years and had reunion movies, so it had to have a strong following. Gord told me awhile back that universal told them there will not be anymore releases due to lack of sales. But he also told me that while saying never say never things can change.
What is Universal's magic number? Why can't they accept not all shows will do equally well? Shows that ran for many seasons did so because of popularity, so why not give all seasons their day in court?
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post #23 of 85
11/24/07 at 1:11pm

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What is Universal's magic number? Why can't they accept not all shows will do equally well? Shows that ran for many seasons did so because of popularity, so why not give all seasons their day in court?

I can't answer what the magic # is... One just has to hope they give it another chance and that the second go around ends up working out better than the first . Then perhaps we can get some sort of steady releases every 4 to 6 months or so. I have my fingers crossed that once Magnum wraps up with it's next release that they may get back to Simon & Simon. I am grasping at straws for sure, but atleast it sounds good and keeps a little hope alive for the time being.
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post #24 of 85
11/24/07 at 7:53pm
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I think part of the problem was that maybe at the time, Universal had too many classic titles out all at once, and since Season 1 of S&S was pretty weak (I didn't even like too many season 1 eps) that possibly was the reason for the slow sales.
If they hyped up a Season 2 release, I doubt it would be a weak seller. Or at least as strong as Airwolf, which is already on S3..
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post #25 of 85
11/24/07 at 8:31pm

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I think part of the problem was that maybe at the time, Universal had too many classic titles out all at once, and since Season 1 of S&S was pretty weak (I didn't even like too many season 1 eps) that possibly was the reason for the slow sales.
If they hyped up a Season 2 release, I doubt it would be a weak seller. Or at least as strong as Airwolf, which is already on S3..


Yeah i think that could very well be the reason for the poor sales. Too much to buy and when you have to decide on something your going to go with the product that gives you more episodes and value for your dollar.

Do you recall those universal inserts they give you with their releases, where they show Knight Rider, Magnum, The-ATeam, Airwolf, Miami Vice and Simon & Simon all on the same flyer. It is interesting to note that everything has been completed, Magnum just has one last season to go and i can't count S4 of Airwolf, Uni may not even own the rights to that. I think most people that collect these shows (i own all of them) want to finish Simon & Simon to the end as well and i just hope Universal gives it another chance! They have the Equalizer coming out in February, i am looking forward to collecting all 4 years of that to, but come on Uni we need more Rick and A.J.
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post #26 of 85
11/25/07 at 2:10am

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I would like them to finish Simon and Simon purely to actually see the episodes for the first time, I hated what Uni did in 2005/2004 whenever it was where they released loads of older TV shows basically at the same time, e.g Quincy Kojak... and none sold very well
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post #27 of 85
11/25/07 at 3:41am

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I suppose Universal should've done it differently, yes, hopefully they've learned and unreleased seasons are coming now...
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post #28 of 85
11/25/07 at 4:31am

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Yeah, well Magnum is almost up Murder she wrote has got quite a fair bit to go... Columbo - who knows what they're doing..
Knight Rider & A-Team finished a while back
Let's hope...
If these shows that we want were created today, am I correct in saying they'd be out in a flash due to it being much easier and cheaper of converting them to DVD???
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post #29 of 85
11/25/07 at 12:36pm

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I think that's the point I was getting to. I just wish that Universal would release a statement on whether they plan on contiuing future releases.
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post #30 of 85
11/26/07 at 6:05am

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Guys, do you think sometimes it may hurt some shows when they are released at the same time as something similar? Examples such as Magnum/Simon & Simon. I think those types of shows draw from the same demographics. At my local Best Buy, they normally have a table for all the new releases. Let's say a non-die hard fan walks in who would like both shows, but isn't willing to spend $70-$80 right then. They purchase one, and not the other. The next week, the table has new releases, and this person forgets about the other one. I've thought that way a few times when I've seen similar cartoons released on the same day.

Of course, there are plenty of examples to the contrary. I know the A-Team/Knight Rider were released on the same day, and both of those series have been completed. But for a few shows on the edge of profitability, perhaps it would be a better marketing tool to stagger their releases.
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