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post #31 of 34
10/30/08 at 3:01pm

Re: Mama's Family - Season 2?

I never saw them uncut because I was a baby when they aired. I don't need to have seen them to know something is missing, I just need to look at the running time. No network sitcom in 1993 would run 21:30, let alone 1983. I refuse to watch any edited reruns of any show on TV. I don't watch movies on TV unless they are OAR and uncut, which limits me to Turner Classic Movies and HDNet Movies. I have no such outlet for TV shows other than DVD.

Likewise, I would never buy edited versions of shows that aired before I was born either. I don't care if they haven't been shown that way in 40 years, that's how I want to see them. The way they were originally seen.

By your logic, we shouldn't complain about pan and scan or, God forbid, edited versions of movies on DVD. You're watching a bastardization.
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post #32 of 34
10/30/08 at 3:33pm

Re: Mama's Family - Season 2?

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Originally Posted by chadHobbick
So you wouldn't buy a dvd that is edited even though you never saw first run episodes that are uncut? In essence you wouldn't know what has been cut or what hasn't.

That about sums it up. The minute I see music replacement or modified aspect ratio or edits, I don't buy the disc. Period. I refuse to buy the old 90210 for that reason. To the best of my knowledge, everything in my collection is OAR or unedited or as the director/producer wanted.

Would you buy a music cd that contained radio cuts, instead of the original composition even if you'd never heard the original? I've never seen the Mona Lisa in person, so does that mean some hack can lop off the top third and I should be okay with it because I "don't" know any better?

Similarly, one of my biggest pet peeves are director's or extended cuts of a movie when the original theatrical poduction is not included on the disc, too.

(MatthewA...thank you for showing up. Thought I was fighting a battle all by myself for a while! )
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post #33 of 34
10/30/08 at 5:07pm

Re: Mama's Family - Season 2?

I've noticed in life that everyone will eventually draw the line, except in different places.

Those of you who don't care that these are edited episodes: Would it upset you if they cut out, say, 15 minutes of each episode? I bet it would. Or 10 ... 8 ... 6? Probably.

Well, I'm in the group that gets upset at 2 or 3 minutes being cut. In fact, I get upset if even three seconds are cut, so, yes -- I'm an extremist.

But -- as we say -- it's the principle of the thing, because the great thing about TV on DVD was that, after years of seeing cut prints in syndication, we could at long last see the complete versions of shows again.

That, far and away, is the great attraction of TV on DVD to me (with good prints being second.)

So, losing that, I become an "all or nothing" guy, and if we can't get it all, I'll take nothing.

It's also interesting how the bigger the show, the lower the chance of cut prints being used. If "I Love Lucy" or "M*A*S*H," for instance, had done this, it would be almost inconceivable. I don't want to see "Mama's Family" treated as a "lower class" show!
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post #34 of 34
10/30/08 at 5:55pm

Re: Mama's Family - Season 2?

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
I've noticed in life that everyone will eventually draw the line, except in different places.

Those of you who don't care that these are edited episodes: Would it upset you if they cut out, say, 15 minutes of each episode? I bet it would. Or 10 ... 8 ... 6? Probably.

Well, I'm in the group that gets upset at 2 or 3 minutes being cut. In fact, I get upset if even three seconds are cut, so, yes -- I'm an extremist.

But -- as we say -- it's the principle of the thing, because the great thing about TV on DVD was that, after years of seeing cut prints in syndication, we could at long last see the complete versions of shows again.

That, far and away, is the great attraction of TV on DVD to me (with good prints being second.)

So, losing that, I become an "all or nothing" guy, and if we can't get it all, I'll take nothing.

It's also interesting how the bigger the show, the lower the chance of cut prints being used. If "I Love Lucy" or "M*A*S*H," for instance, had done this, it would be almost inconceivable. I don't want to see "Mama's Family" treated as a "lower class" show!

To Warner, "lower class" means any sitcom other than Friends. They don't remaster (except for animated properties), and they let cuts occasionally slip by. This show was not a critical success but it was an audience favorite and one of the the top rated syndicated sitcoms in the late 1980s.

Of course, even with a mega-biggie like "Star Trek," there were supporters here of the CGI alterations and the re-recorded theme song.

Once, there was someone here who said they bought the edited season 1 release of "The Cosby Show" and used it as background noise.

I naturally assumed the mission statement of HTF regarding movies applied to TV shows as well, since they are basically an offshoot of movies.

In addition to the edits is the fact that the syndicated copies are several generations removed from the originals. Other shows from the same era look as good as the original broadcasts.
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