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Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

post #1 of 72
1/8/07 at 2:17pm
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should we expect any dates or announcement on disney classic titles anytime soon?
during CES?

I havent noticed any discussion of any kind anywere yet.


here is the list as of august '08.

Sleeping Beauty
Pinocchio ∗
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs ∗
Fantasia ∗
Fantasia 2000 ∗
Beauty and the Beast
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post #2 of 72
1/8/07 at 2:45pm

Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

So far the only animated Disney Blu-Ray title announced so far is Cars, but the others (Beauty & The Beast, Aladdin, Finding Nemo, etc.) have been mentioned in PR's and on their Blu-Ray intros as Coming Soon. These CES titles pretty much are up through the summer, so we'll probably see more announced for the second half of the year.
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post #3 of 72
1/8/07 at 8:33pm

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I'm personally hoping they release a title this Christmas. What's on the roadmap for their big release this winter? Last year was Bambi, correct? Maybe we could see someting day and date.
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post #4 of 72
1/9/07 at 7:15am

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IMO, it would be foolhardy of them not to release this year's platinums in Blu-Ray.
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post #5 of 72
1/9/07 at 8:52am

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The Platinum route makes a lot of sense, certainly in the beginning. Peter Pan is March so that doesn't seem likey. The Jungle Book is the Q4 platinum.
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post #6 of 72
2/23/07 at 8:36am
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Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

any buzz on classics yet?
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post #7 of 72
2/23/07 at 9:50am

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I really doubt that Disney will break there long time rule of warehousing these films and only releasing them for short periords once every 7 or 10 years. I think you will not see the classics in BD until the next regular scheduled release of that film to SD.
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post #8 of 72
2/23/07 at 10:31am

Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

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IMO, it would be foolhardy of them not to release this year's platinums in Blu-Ray.
Why? Disney didn't release the platinums or their primo titles on DVD when they first came out. Why should we expect it now?
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post #9 of 72
3/1/07 at 6:12pm

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Originally Posted by Shane Martin
Why? Disney didn't release the platinums or their primo titles on DVD when they first came out. Why should we expect it now?
And it looks like they are not going to release the Platinums of their classics on BD just yet. With Peter Pan being pulled from the vaults and being released next week,it seems they are not yet ready to put these classics on BD.
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post #10 of 72
3/7/07 at 6:36pm
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Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

sort of an announcement apparently comomg on the new Cars blu ray.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=481347

Aladdin
Beauty and the Beast
The Little Mermaid
The Lion King
Monsters Inc.

and many more
no dates tho'
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post #11 of 72
3/7/07 at 7:03pm

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Originally Posted by TonyD
sort of an announcement apparently comomg on the new Cars blu ray.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=481347

Aladdin
Beauty and the Beast
The Little Mermaid
The Lion King
Monsters Inc.

and many more
no dates tho'

I am sure they are... When ever the next scheduled release dates for these films happen. But then again, they just passed up a perfect opportunity to release Peter Pan.
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post #12 of 72
3/8/07 at 12:37pm

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Oh Gee,

Maybe since Dinsey decided not to release Peter Pan on Blu Ray, it means they are re thinking their HD Strategy and will be producing it on both HD DVD and Blu Ray? I'll bet that is the reason.

If it was a Universal title, that would be the conclusion of the Blu Ray team! : )

Said with Tongue firmly in cheek before people start to flame me.

Dave
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post #13 of 72
3/8/07 at 3:03pm

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Disney isn't planning to release Peter Pan on HD DVD. If anything, the momentum of BD has only solidified their position to make it suceed and end the format war... which will benefit their own pockets in turn (ie, adoption rate of HD software will increase substantially once the format war has ended in the minds of the consumers). This is a *strategy* on the part of Disney and Fox. They *want* one format, and they chose BD for reasons that have been well understood. Releasing on dual-format will only drag out the war and keep HD software sales at a minimum... and potentiall stale-mate both formats entirely.

Getting one format and getting it fast will make them the most $$ because all the side-line consumers will then be willing to jump in and adopt HD.

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But then again, they just passed up a perfect opportunity to release Peter Pan.

Nope. They just *maximixed* their profits by releasing it now on SD DVD with millions in sales. Then they'll release on BD later.
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post #14 of 72
3/9/07 at 5:27am

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Nope. They just *maximixed* their profits by releasing it now on SD DVD with millions in sales. Then they'll release on BD later.
I just do not agree with this spin. Releasing in BD would have added to their profits now and showed just how strong their commitment is to the High Def market. But since they didn't, there is almost no possibility that Disney will break with their long standing release schedule. If Peter Pan does not get released in BD before it is piulled from the market in the next few months, it will sit in the Disney Vault for the next 5 to 7 years. Disney is not going to break what has been a genuis marketing plan for the Animated Classics to help BD. When the limited time is up on this release, back to the vaults it goes.
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post #15 of 72
3/9/07 at 7:07am

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New formats can establish new release dates. We saw that with laserdisc/VHS versus DVD for a few titles.

Either way it still makes more sense... if they *were* going to follow the typical release strategy and then pull the discs off the shelf, why would they want to waste a BD move now and sell only a few thousand copies with the limited base of HD consumers and then shelve the title? Why not wait a few years for the format to mature to gain a larger consumer base where they could really make some money with a limited-issue release?

They'll probably start by putting their titles out on BD that don't have limited windows of release to help the format get established first. That's what they did with DVD.
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post #16 of 72
3/9/07 at 10:16am

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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet
Either way it still makes more sense... if they *were* going to follow the typical release strategy and then pull the discs off the shelf, why would they want to waste a BD move now and sell only a few thousand copies with the limited base of HD consumers and then shelve the title? Why not wait a few years for the format to mature to gain a larger consumer base where they could really make some money with a limited-issue release?

Because they would have sold a few thousand more copies, it would have helped solidify BD and it would have reenforced there stance on BD. Since they were working from a new remastering of the film, it would have made since. And when has a studio had a problem with rereleasing titles. They love it.

This is the same problem I have with all of the studios that profess total support for a format (or both) verbally, but not in action. It is about time they put there releases where their mouths are.
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post #17 of 72
3/9/07 at 10:30am

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I don't think Disney is afraid of releasing A-list titles on BD. They are releasing their 2 biggest DVD sellers from last year shortly. Perhaps there wasn't enough lead time for Pan. A Jungle Book BD in Oct. seems like a no-brainer.
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post #18 of 72
3/9/07 at 11:03am

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Right.

Again, Disney has ALWAYS held back on their limited-issue releases until new formats have had enough of a consumer base to justify the limited-release window. That makes sense.

Disney is, without a doubt in the eyes of anyone paying attention, showing incredible support for the BD format. Releasing many top-A titles as Brett says. Other animated non-limited-issue titles will be showing up like Cars and Chicken Little to help bridge the gap to when the consumer base is deemed ready to support a profitable sale of limited-release titles.

In case anyone is curious, selling a few thousand BD titles barely covers the cost of disc production and authoring (if that). Disney is waiting to release their limited-edition classics until those sales numbers can increase more significantly.
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post #19 of 72
3/9/07 at 4:07pm

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Pirates, baby, Pirates. The dual releases of Pirates of the Carribean scheduled to coincide with the third film is a HUGE show of support.
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post #20 of 72
3/9/07 at 7:50pm
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Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

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Originally Posted by John Berggren
Pirates, baby, Pirates. The dual releases of Pirates of the Carribean scheduled to coincide with the third film is a HUGE show of support.
right but this topic is specific on the established animated/non-animated classics. such as peter pan, jungle book. 20,000 leagues etc...
while the pirate movies have made a ton of dough and are well liked
they arent what i was referring to on this topic.
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post #21 of 72
3/9/07 at 9:00pm

Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

Let me connect it better
Pirates will sell units, even players.
When the units and the players reach a certain level as a result of such high end releases, the classics will come.

Disney is far more onboard with Blu Ray today than they were with DVD at this stage. I don't think there is much to worry about the classics coming.
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post #22 of 72
3/9/07 at 9:18pm
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Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

that does m,ake sense.
hopefully soon.
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post #23 of 72
3/10/07 at 7:13am

Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

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Disney is far more onboard with Blu Ray today than they were with DVD at this stage. I don't think there is much to worry about the classics coming.

thanks for reminding us.

Remember how at this stage with DVD Disney was not only "not fully supporting" DVD but their releases were actually painful. The non-anamorphic Mary Poppins and A Bugs Life? Ugh. It was like a slap in the face.

That contrasts sharply releases like Chicago that push the AV quality limits of the BD format right from the start. Sigghh...
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post #24 of 72
3/10/07 at 10:37am

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Disney's first DVDs debuted in December of 1997. Their first animated releases came out in the fall of 1999. The strange thing about those releases is that they released 9 of them at once.

Link to article from 1999 regarding Disney's release of animated classics on DVD
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post #25 of 72
3/10/07 at 10:45am

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In addition to all those reasons, these 2 HD formats haven't exactly been quite as secure as the Studios expected. I'm sure Disney doesn't exactly want near master quality 1080p versions of thier classics floating loose.
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post #26 of 72
3/12/07 at 8:00am

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I would love to see Disney release some of there clasics and newer animation on Blu-ray. Unfortunantly I do not see Disney releasing any of these films in HD until they feel like pulling them from the vault. They have been really good about keeping the demand of there titles up buy keeping availablity somewhat limited.
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post #27 of 72
6/20/07 at 7:20am

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Sleeping Beauty - 2008

Not a Platinum. Going 2nd tier while base expands I guess.
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post #28 of 72
6/20/07 at 10:43am

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I'm just putting this out there in case someone from Disney's reading:

Rocketeer

Just do it.
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post #29 of 72
6/20/07 at 2:32pm

Re: Disney the classics, animated and non animated?

[quote=DaViD Boulet]thanks for reminding us.

Remember how at this stage with DVD Disney was not only "not fully supporting" DVD but their releases were actually painful. The non-anamorphic Mary Poppins and A Bugs Life? Ugh. It was like a slap in the face.

From memory"A Bug's Life" was a reference disc-certainly anamorphic and great sound and vision. I agree that was not the case with "Poppins"
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post #30 of 72
6/20/07 at 3:45pm

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This might not be a terribly popular catalog title, but I think a Disney BD release of Tron could yield some amazing results. Being that it was filmed in beautiful 70mm, Tron really would look stunning on BD. Those amazing Cray-rendered graphics would also be a nice thing to view on a 100" screen.

I was lucky enough to see a pristine 70mm presentation of Tron at the Paramount theater in Austin in 2000 (along with a gorgeous 70mm Lawrence of Arabia) and the quality was freaking amazing. So, if a new HD master could be made from one of these 70mm prints, then Tron could really be something to behold in BD.
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