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I have quite a few Paramount show releases and the ones I have have always been released as full season sets. I have no idea why they're now splitting the season sets up, but I'm not buying them unless they're the complete season sets. I was looking forward to The Untouchables, The Streets of San Francisco, & the next season of The Big Valley, but I guess I'll forget about buying them nowRe: The Untouchables
I'm gonna hold back a bit first, see what the score is on whether they'll release a full season if not I guess I'll just buy it...Will Paramount ever release the final season of THE UNTOUCHABLES on DVD?
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Don't forget, there's also the 1991 TV movie The Return of Eliot Ness. The fourth season consisted of 30 episodes, and with the TV movie that would be like 32 episodes. So if the last season was released as a one season set and not split into two volumes, I would assume it would be an 8-disc set.

Don't forget, there's also the 1991 TV movie The Return of Eliot Ness. The fourth season consisted of 30 episodes, and with the TV movie that would be like 32 episodes. So if the last season was released as a one season set and not split into two volumes, I would assume it would be an 8-disc set.
I have been watching for this show to be completed as it is on my wish list. I seen some sales of show at Zellers in Canada. I much prefer them to release everything and then package them together like they did for mission impossible.
I was too young or not even born when the original show came out. However, i am a fan of classic tv and i hope to set up a club down the road with people that have similar interest. It would be nice to meet once a month kind of like a book club to discuss the old shows and/or seasons. You could watch a few episodes with people then have discussions about them. That too me would be very neat!!
I continue to try an introduce my special gal to these shows, but, she just looks at the clothes and the shows as old. I try to explain to her this is when acting/scripting was very good. However, she prefers reality TV.
That's how it goes sometimes with the missusses, ins't it.
That undemanding reality crap's slowly been killing television for the better part of a decade now, it's probably one crucial reason most here tend or seem to prefer classic TV and as far as 50s/60s telly's concerned not much can beat this particular crime show in story and acting excellence.
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It's not like bad TV shows are new. They've been around since the beginning of the medium. In the past decade, there's been lots of lousy reality shows but there's also been great shows. The writing and acting on shows like Breaking Bad, Deadwood, Lost, Mad Men, The Shield, The Sopranos and The Wire easily stand with any of the great series of the past.
Well, it's about reality shows foremost but surely bad shows in general existed before as well, interestingly enough though I'm not really into any of those recent shows there so when I compare them to the best from the past they can't impress me all too much. Personally I just prefer different styles to what's on now I guess, being a mid-1960s kid maybe it's a generational thing for me.
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Well, it's about reality shows foremost but surely bad shows in general existed before as well, interestingly enough though I'm not really into any of those recent shows there so when I compare them to the best from the past they can't impress me all too much. Personally I just prefer different styles to what's on now I guess, being a mid-1960s kid maybe it's a generational thing for me.
I'm in the same boat you are, Henry. I just can't get into many modern shows at all. I know there are some that get a lot of accolades for various and sundry reasons that may be very legit (compelling drama, great production, great actors, etc). I'm not here to argue any of that. But there is one aspect of modern TV, one that cuts across all genres, that an individual didn't have to deal with in the 50's and 60's and therefore I think a comparison/contrast is valid. I'm talking about ethical/social/moral issues. I'll give one simple example although there are many. I can sit down and watch just about any 50's show I want to and not ever once have to worry about profanity. It's just not going to be heard regardless of the show. But today, I can sit down and watch just about any show and all but count on hearing at least some amount of profanity. There may be exceptions to this, but they are just that: exceptions and not the rule. Since I and others here have already discussed this aspect of TV I won't go further. But there's no denying there is a huge difference in modern TV and vintage TV when it comes to that. It then becomes a matter of whether that can enhance or ruin a show based on individual preferences. For some it may enhance, but for others it may be a serious turn-off. And that's why it's almost always futile to have a discussion about the merits of the different eras of TV.
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True about the swearing Gary, normally I don't mind that sort of thing too much but it is nice to be free of it here for a change, and I'm sure it's another vital reason why classic TV is such a popular and safe haven. I was quite surprised though by the violence in this show when I started season 1, as I'm sure others must've been seeing a '50s show perhaps for the first time, I suppose the impact is greater because many have this widespread idea TV visuals were milder and toned down more in the past. But I really can't quit raving about this show as brilliant as it is too - top of the world, ma.

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I'm in the same boat you are, Henry. I just can't get into many modern shows at all. I know there are some that get a lot of accolades for various and sundry reasons that may be very legit (compelling drama, great production, great actors, etc). I'm not here to argue any of that. But there is one aspect of modern TV, one that cuts across all genres, that an individual didn't have to deal with in the 50's and 60's and therefore I think a comparison/contrast is valid. I'm talking about ethical/social/moral issues. I'll give one simple example although there are many. I can sit down and watch just about any 50's show I want to and not ever once have to worry about profanity. It's just not going to be heard regardless of the show. But today, I can sit down and watch just about any show and all but count on hearing at least some amount of profanity. There may be exceptions to this, but they are just that: exceptions and not the rule. Since I and others here have already discussed this aspect of TV I won't go further. But there's no denying there is a huge difference in modern TV and vintage TV when it comes to that. It then becomes a matter of whether that can enhance or ruin a show based on individual preferences. For some it may enhance, but for others it may be a serious turn-off. And that's why it's almost always futile to have a discussion about the merits of the different eras of TV.
Gary "I do wish CBS would finish this series, but right now it doesn't seem to really be on their radar" O.
Excellent post! Well time and on the spot!
I think we could see this show done maybe next year. I think CBS may try to complete hawaii five-o this year then look at some other series next year. It is frustration, because the similar happen with voyage to the bottom of sea (how long did we have to wait) and also starsky and hutch had like 2-3 years before the last season came out. I like to see the studios come out with a game plan on finishing some of the shows, especially ones that are almost completed, like charlie's angels, SWAT, Night Gallery, White Shadow, Baa Baa Black Sheep, etc.
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I'm in the same boat you are, Henry. I just can't get into many modern shows at all. I know there are some that get a lot of accolades for various and sundry reasons that may be very legit (compelling drama, great production, great actors, etc). I'm not here to argue any of that. But there is one aspect of modern TV, one that cuts across all genres, that an individual didn't have to deal with in the 50's and 60's and therefore I think a comparison/contrast is valid. I'm talking about ethical/social/moral issues. I'll give one simple example although there are many. I can sit down and watch just about any 50's show I want to and not ever once have to worry about profanity. It's just not going to be heard regardless of the show. But today, I can sit down and watch just about any show and all but count on hearing at least some amount of profanity. There may be exceptions to this, but they are just that: exceptions and not the rule. Since I and others here have already discussed this aspect of TV I won't go further. But there's no denying there is a huge difference in modern TV and vintage TV when it comes to that. It then becomes a matter of whether that can enhance or ruin a show based on individual preferences. For some it may enhance, but for others it may be a serious turn-off. And that's why it's almost always futile to have a discussion about the merits of the different eras of TV.
Gary "I do wish CBS would finish this series, but right now it doesn't seem to really be on their radar" O.
Can't say it better than this for me.
There are exceptions regarding the language and content as compared the 50-60's shows as you said but they're few and far between.
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Gary's post is perfectly fine and probably one reason why many people don't like modern TV shows. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with Paul's post which essentially says that good writing or acting is solely the domain of older shows.
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That's how it goes sometimes with the missusses, ins't it.
That undemanding reality crap's slowly been killing television for the better part of a decade now, it's probably one crucial reason most here tend or seem to prefer classic TV and as far as 50s/60s telly's concerned not much can beat this particular crime show in story and acting excellence.
Sorry to go off-topic, but in the UK there was a time when ITV used to show 70's, 80's and 90's US TV series late at night (the shows I'm thinking of are The Streets of San Francisco, Tales from the Crypt, Tales from the Darkside and Short Story Cinema). Nowadays they get shown on satellite channels (ITV4 show a lot of classic TV series).
What were the episodes like in the fourth season of The Untouchables? Does it get repeated in the US?
As is frequently the case with many shows, the last season is terrible. Caving in to pressure from various groups which complained about the violence as well as the ethnic stereotypes (we didn't have Russian mobsters in this country for another few decades), they sanitized the show almost beyond recognition. Ness did more talking than shooting and the Italian mobsters were replaced by generic ones. There were even several busted pilots aired that season. If you are a completist, its definitely on your want list but its a far comedown from seasons 1-3.

As is frequently the case with many shows, the last season is terrible. Caving in to pressure from various groups which complained about the violence as well as the ethnic stereotypes (we didn't have Russian mobsters in this country for another few decades), they sanitized the show almost beyond recognition. Ness did more talking than shooting and the Italian mobsters were replaced by generic ones. There were even several busted pilots aired that season. If you are a completist, its definitely on your want list but its a far comedown from seasons 1-3.
At one time, there was a great Wikipedia entry that detailed how the show declined over the course of its run. On another note, I recall watching Jack Lord in one of the Season 1 shows and it occurred to me how similar the set up of The Untouchables is to Hawaii Five-O. Both shows revolved around the tall, cool law enforcer and his team. Yet, with Hawaii Five O, they got 12 seasons versus The Untouchables 4.

As is frequently the case with many shows, the last season is terrible. Caving in to pressure from various groups which complained about the violence as well as the ethnic stereotypes (we didn't have Russian mobsters in this country for another few decades), they sanitized the show almost beyond recognition. Ness did more talking than shooting and the Italian mobsters were replaced by generic ones. There were even several busted pilots aired that season. If you are a completist, its definitely on your want list but its a far comedown from seasons 1-3.
That is interesting to hear about the "Untouchables". Maybe i won't need to complete that one as much as I had thought. In a similar situation is "Route 66" with the 4th season hanging out there in limbo. How was the 4th season of that series? I know the cast change may have made it so later seasons did not compare as much to the first, but was season 4 of the same caliber as season 3?

That is interesting to hear about the "Untouchables". Maybe i won't need to complete that one as much as I had thought. In a similar situation is "Route 66" with the 4th season hanging out there in limbo. How was the 4th season of that series? I know the cast change may have made it so later seasons did not compare as much to the first, but was season 4 of the same caliber as season 3?
I have seen the 4th season, and I actually like Glen Corbett better than George Maharis, so I have no problem with the cast change. I also like the fact that Route 66 had a series conclusion, it was not left up in the air, and the closer was satisfying. All in all, I don't think Route 66 ever "Jumped the Shark".

I have seen the 4th season, and I actually like Glen Corbett better than George Maharis, so I have no problem with the cast change. I also like the fact that Route 66 had a series conclusion, it was not left up in the air, and the closer was satisfying. All in all, I don't think Route 66 ever "Jumped the Shark".
Good to know. thanks.
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There were 3 seasons of Vega$. We’ve released S1 V1 & V2 and S2 V1 & V2. Currently, SSN 3 does not have a release date.The final season of the Untouchables has not been released and no date has been set as of yet.
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i posted the release question [for both vegas and the untouchables] on paramount's facebook page and the response was
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There were 3 seasons of Vega$. We’ve released S1 V1 & V2 and S2 V1 & V2. Currently, SSN 3 does not have a release date.The final season of the Untouchables has not been released and no date has been set as of yet.
Hmmm. I guess they don't have access to any crystal balls.
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