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post #31 of 61
1/6/12 at 10:58am

People... they aren't missing "episodes". They're missing SEGMENTS! Its a trio of comedy black out sketches that only take up about 15 minutes total.

 

And technically only one of them was part of the series to being with!

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post #32 of 61
1/6/12 at 11:03am
Refresh my memory, which were the segments they left out. I still have my 80s tapes from syndication somewhere which I'm sure have those missing segments on them.
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post #33 of 61
1/6/12 at 2:07pm

The back of the second season box states, "Included within are 22 episodes from Season 2, but having disappeared into the dark wings of the Night Gallery are portions of the episode, "Satisfaction Guaranteed", and the lost story "Witches Feast", where they lie waiting to be re-discovered."

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post #34 of 61
1/6/12 at 8:41pm
I'm not an expert on this topic, but read this:

http://www.nightgallery.net/index.html?title.html&0

It sounds like "Satisfaction Guaranteed" was in the set.

I e-mailed the operators of that website to see if they knew if Season 3 would include "Witches Feast." They said that it is included, and they didn't know why Universal didn't highlight that fact in the press release.
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post #35 of 61
1/7/12 at 5:44am

Here are the bonus contents on the Season 3 set which were posted on the Night Gallery Yahoo Group by one of the co-authors of the Night Gallery Companion.

 

"Okay, "pain of death" is no longer a concern, according to Jim. In fact, our
Universal masters don't seem to be terribly concerned about further intelligence
leaks. So, Jim and I can elucidate the extras on this third release without
further concern. So here's what you get, aside from transfers of all the 15
episodes of Season 3:

A bunch of Season 2 extras:

"Witches' Feast" as it originally played in the broadcast version. The print
looks stunning, gorgeous. Wish it was funnier....

Two syndication-only segments, "Die Now, Pay Later" and "Room for One Less" with
as much of the syndication footage removed as we could manage, since we couldn't
locate original footage for these two. We also laid in different music tracks,
from the second-season cue library, to make them more Gallery-like. We think
they look and sound 100 percent better.

Also, we have reconstructed "Little Girl Lost" to its full glory, with the six
extra minutes of cutting-room-floor footage used in the syndication version, to
try and recreate Sanford Whitmore's teleplay as accurately as possible.

We have assembled all these parts together into one episode--essentially, it's
the 23rd "lost episode" of the second season--bookended with the NG main title
and a newly created end credits sequence, plus the commercial bumper (with the
leering faces) from the second season at the mid-episode mark.

On top of that, we have offered two commentaries: one for the newly created
"lost episode," to try and explain our rationale in the reconstruction, and for
the "Return of the Sorcerer" episode.

Enjoy, fans. We (and Universal's staff minions) took extraordinary pains to
deliver these gems to you. I sincerely hope you appreciate them.

S."
 

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post #36 of 61
1/7/12 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by ChrisALM View Post

The back of the second season box states, "Included within are 22 episodes from Season 2, but having disappeared into the dark wings of the Night Gallery are portions of the episode, "Satisfaction Guaranteed", and the lost story "Witches Feast", where they lie waiting to be re-discovered."

So what exactly is the deal with the "Satisfaction Guaranteed" episode?
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post #37 of 61
1/7/12 at 10:02am
Great news to hear all the pains that have been taken with Season 3 in terms of adding the stuff that was missing or incomplete from Season 2. The comedy vignettes are "dire" (as the Brits would say) and no great loss . But the restorations are important from a historical point of view. Can't wait to see "Little Girl Lost."

While not related to Night Gallery ... I've been watching the blu-rays of The Twilight Zone that amazon offered for $152 as a deal of the day recently (all five seasons). The new material, bumpers and commercials, are terrific--but seeing Rod Serling smoking and whoring for Oasis brand cigarettes just pisses me off no end, since he died of heart disease likely caused by the smoking. He missed home video by just a few years and it's painful to imagine all that he could have given us had he lived to see the expansion of the format.
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post #38 of 61
1/7/12 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by Neil Brock View Post

So what exactly is the deal with the "Satisfaction Guaranteed" episode?

Neil, the link I posted will explain it all better than I can. From http://www.nightgallery.net/index.html?title.html&0 in the "Night Gallery on DVD Section"

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Confusion has already risen over a pair of reportedly missing second-season vignettes, claimed by Universal in a September 19 news release and then reported on the www.tvshowsondvd.com website: "Despite a long and intensive search, Universal was not able to locate portions of the 40-year-old episode 'Satisfaction Guaranteed' and the story 'Witches' Feast' to include on the upcoming Night Gallery Season Two DVD set."

This is only partially true. First, a little background is needed to explain the reason for this confusion.

When the second episode of season two was first broadcast on September 22, 1971, it ran with the following lineup of stories: "A Death in the Family," "The Merciful," "Class of '99," and "Witches' Feast" (the final segment was a five-minute vignette). When the second episode was rebroadcast in its first rerun showing on March 22, 1972, "Witches' Feast" had been replaced by a different vignette, the five-minute "Satisfaction Guaranteed," and the main titles and end credits had been altered to reflect the change in cast and crew members.

When the butchered, half-hour syndication version of Night Gallery was prepared by Universal in 1973, both "Witches' Feast" and "Satisfaction Guaranteed" were included in the run (the former was padded with a seven-second stock shot of a castle). In addition, two other vignettes were included that were filmed during the production of the second season but never broadcast: the brief vignette "Room for One Less" and the somewhat longer "Die Now, Pay Later," which was expanded with a great deal of superfluous footage.

Fast-forward seventeen years. In 1990, Universal prepared new masters for the original broadcast version of Night Gallery. When studio minions mastered the second episode of season two, they used the March 22, 1972, rebroadcast of that episode, the one with "Satisfaction Guaranteed" in place of "Witches' Feast." When they finished, the three relatively minor vignettes - "Witches' Feast," "Room for One Less," and "Die Now, Pay Later" - were omitted from that mastering.

Fast-forward another eighteen years. In the spring and summer of 2008, Universal prepared the second season of Night Gallery for a DVD release. They contacted Jim and me to help with some of the bonus features, and we suggested they try to locate original cuts for the three "lost" vignettes (and unknown to us, Universal's master of the second episode was listed as including "Witches' Feast," not "Satisfaction Guaranteed," so they assumed they already had the former). In the end, the folks at Universal had searched and searched, finding no original cuts of the vignettes, then discovered that "Witches' Feast" was not on their mislabeled master and that an episode segment titled "Satisfaction Guaranteed" (which Jim and I had never mentioned to them) was in its place. Clocking in at five minutes and three seconds, no one at Universal was sure whether it was even complete (it was).

Intending to be as truthful and up-front as possible, Universal minions changed the front of the DVD box from reading "The Complete Second Season" to, simply, "Season Two" and composed liner notes for the back of the box that included an admission that they could not find "Witches' Feast" and portions of "Satisfaction Guaranteed." Unfortunately, the truth of the situation was not discovered until after the liner notes were printed, so this error will remain in the text on the DVD set.

If Season Two sells well and a release for Season Three is scheduled, perhaps these second-season vignette omissions can be redressed (and Season Three is going to need all the help it can get, since it contains only 15 half-hour episodes - roughly six-and-a-half hours of content).
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post #39 of 61
1/7/12 at 5:39pm
Thanks for the posting!

I have S1/S2 on dvd and love Night Gallery. Night Gallery had some amazing episodes, like Tim Riley's bar or deliveries at the rear or vampire asking he can make a withdrawl or bill bixby's episodes of the druids, etc.

I am looking forward to this released and hope this means other shows that universel has only one season left, like Baa Baa Black Sheep
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post #40 of 61
1/7/12 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by Neil Brock View Post


So what exactly is the deal with the "Satisfaction Guaranteed" episode?

 

After reading the link from John (thanks for posting), apparently nothing is missing from Satisfaction Guaranteed. I did not realize all of the details, but it looks like we are going to get the rest of the series in as best condition as possible.
 

 

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post #41 of 61
1/8/12 at 9:30am

Yeah nothing is missing from Satisfaction Guaranteed. Its a misprint on the packaging.

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post #42 of 61
1/8/12 at 9:35am

Its great to hear about this "lost" episode. I'm still hoping for news that the NG Sixth Sense intros are being included as well since its still part of the show's history.

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post #43 of 61
1/17/12 at 10:17am
Even more details on the bonus materials:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Night-Gallery-Season-3/16412

Darby
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post #44 of 61
1/18/12 at 10:19am
Good news!
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post #45 of 61
4/1/12 at 10:25pm
Bummer, Amazon.ca tells me that they can't get this -- has anyone else gotten the same bad news?
If its a Canadian amazon issue, i suppose that's one thing; i'd hate to hear that this release is on ice...


Hello from Amazon.ca.

We're sorry to report we won't be able to obtain the following item from your order:

"Night Gallery: Season Three"

Although we'd expected to be able to send this item to you, we've since found it's not available from any of our sources at this time. We realize this is disappointing news to receive, and we apologize for any inconvenience we've caused you.

We must apologize also for the length of time it's taken us to reach this conclusion. Until recently, we'd still hoped to obtain this item for you.

We've cancelled this item from your order.
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post #46 of 61
4/2/12 at 4:31am
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Bummer, Amazon.ca tells me that they can't get this -- has anyone else gotten the same bad news?
If its a Canadian amazon issue, i suppose that's one thing; i'd hate to hear that this release is on ice...
Hello from Amazon.ca.
We're sorry to report we won't be able to obtain the following item from your order:
"Night Gallery: Season Three"
Although we'd expected to be able to send this item to you, we've since found it's not available from any of our sources at this time. We realize this is disappointing news to receive, and we apologize for any inconvenience we've caused you.

We must apologize also for the length of time it's taken us to reach this conclusion. Until recently, we'd still hoped to obtain this item for you.

We've cancelled this item from your order.

Hi Shoeshineboy,

I received the same notification and complain to amazon.com about the issue as it does not make sense. The dvd set was not set for release until April 10, 2012 and such should have shown up on their site as not being released. I have notice some significant inconsistency with amazon.ca site as compare to amazon.com, like out of stock when in fact the title has not been released. In the case of night gallery there were two other vendors that show it available in canada and one vendor is based in BC. I would suggest that you complain to amazon.com as it is waste of time dealing with amazon.ca as all their responses come from india.
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post #47 of 61
4/2/12 at 6:15am
Although the USA and Canada are both region-1 for DVD they're still separate entities for things like TV and film rights. It's possible there's some issue that is stopping the release in Canada but not in the US.

Another particularly Canadian problem I can think of the Quebec - maybe there's a holdup on the bilingual covers!

In the meantime just order it from Amazon.com

Are there Customs issues between the US and Canada, ie might you have to pay import charges? Certainly this is a problem when ordering stuff from the USA in Europe (or anywhere outside of the EU in fact)

Exactly the same thing seems to have happened to the McCallum Invisible Man set, which was initially for Canada but not the US, then both, now it's US only. At least on the Amazons.
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post #48 of 61
4/2/12 at 6:31am
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Originally Posted by Nebiroth View Post

Although the USA and Canada are both region-1 for DVD they're still separate entities for things like TV and film rights. It's possible there's some issue that is stopping the release in Canada but not in the US.
Another particularly Canadian problem I can think of the Quebec - maybe there's a holdup on the bilingual covers!
In the meantime just order it from Amazon.com
Are there Customs issues between the US and Canada, ie might you have to pay import charges? Certainly this is a problem when ordering stuff from the USA in Europe (or anywhere outside of the EU in fact)
Exactly the same thing seems to have happened to the McCallum Invisible Man set, which was initially for Canada but not the US, then both, now it's US only. At least on the Amazons.

Hi Richard,

There are some serious inconsistencies with the amazon.ca site as there appears to be an issue with synchronization. I talked to support on weekend about the issue and it has been escalated. The problem is night gallery S3 and Vegas S3-V1 have different posting, i.e. one says out of stock (Vegas S3-V1) when it can not be out of stock as it has not been released and Night Gallery showed other sellers with it being available, but it is not available as the released date is April 10, 2012.

The other problem is customer support responses from amazon.ca are coming from India and are scripted. The india support team does very little checking on the site and/or providing options to purchasers on amazon.ca. I received notification that Night Gallery was being canceled without any prior notice. In the past i would receive one notification that they were having trouble and they would keep checking. I have often responded to support saying the release date has not passed, so you should not be canceling the orders until after the release date.

I think the issues has to do with the process on how the releases are being updated on the sites. I would suspect that tables and data are not flowing properly and that is reason for the response. The second issue is that India support is following certain procedures without truly understanding what is presented on the site. I mention this to customer support yesterday there needs to be a better process to managed the released dates. I explain to the person that when social media sites tell us about the releases then the new releases showed up about 1-3 days on amazon.com and then about 2-3 weeks later on amazon.ca. So, why is it taking so long for amazon.ca to update their site? I have posed that question to amazon.com and it is being investigated! I also suggested there needs to be a better managed of suppliers that support releases in Canada as i like to pre-order to lock the price in as it saves me money. If you order from amazon.com then there is higher shipping costs which negate and price savings. I only use amazon.com when i have situations like night gallery s3 come up, but it is usually after i talked to them about my price being lost.
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post #49 of 61
4/2/12 at 2:37pm
Thanks Paul!

It does seem ludicrous that amazon.ca is saying the dvd is unavailable before its official release, but lists 2 small retailers that could supply it -- including one from canada!?! Previous purchases from amazon.com were actually shipped from canada but i was told a couple of years ago that amazon was changing that procedure and any purchase would require duty and extra shipping costs. I'd prefer to spend my relatively rare entertainment funds on the dvds and not unnecessary taxes.

I will file an inquiry to amazon about this.
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post #50 of 61
4/2/12 at 2:42pm
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Thanks Paul!
It does seem ludicrous that amazon.ca is saying the dvd is unavailable before its official release, but lists 2 small retailers that could supply it -- including one from canada!?! Previous purchases from amazon.com were actually shipped from canada but i was told a couple of years ago that amazon was changing that procedure and any purchase would require duty and extra shipping costs. I'd prefer to spend my relatively rare entertainment funds on the dvds and not unnecessary taxes.
I will file an inquiry to amazon about this.

I have complaint register and applaud you doing the same as it something is not right with their synchronization. If you want see a problem then see this link

http://www.amazon.ca/Vegas-The-Third-Season-Volume/dp/B0076YFJFO/ref=sr_1_5?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1333402853&sr=1-5

This shows temporarily out of stock, but how can it be out of stock when the release is not due until May 2012. This shows you there are mistakes on their websites with synchronization.

Regards,
Paul Young
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post #51 of 61
4/21/12 at 12:14pm
I have watch all of S3 episodes for Night Gallery and you can see the story lines had a huge dropped off from previous seasons. S3 has some decent episodes, but not as many as the previous season. I also like the special features, including the episodes not previously released. I still can not get enough of Rod Sirling and i am glad i have all of night gallery and twilight zone on dvd as nothing beats these classic anthology shows.
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post #52 of 61
4/21/12 at 1:02pm
One of these days I'd like to compare the (non-edited) syndicated versions of stories from Seasons 1&2 in the half-hour format with the Network airing versions. No one has really documented the changes/additions/editing on those, just that some stories were changed for syndication for the half hour format.
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post #53 of 61
4/21/12 at 2:36pm
I can give some details on one story from S1 "Lone Survivor", about a cursed Titanic crewman doomed to be picked up by other liners that will get sunk. Because this clocked at 20 minutes it was actually expanded slightly for syndication, including a scene from the cutting-room floor where the Lusitania captain and doctor speculate on what he is. I also remember a stock shot from the Fox movie "Titanic" of the Titanic going down used to open the segment whereas in the network version the Titanic connection isn't made until the lifeboat is found.
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post #54 of 61
4/21/12 at 4:05pm
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I can give some details on one story from S1 "Lone Survivor", about a cursed Titanic crewman doomed to be picked up by other liners that will get sunk. Because this clocked at 20 minutes it was actually expanded slightly for syndication, including a scene from the cutting-room floor where the Lusitania captain and doctor speculate on what he is. I also remember a stock shot from the Fox movie "Titanic" of the Titanic going down used to open the segment whereas in the network version the Titanic connection isn't made until the lifeboat is found.

Hi Jack,

Thanks for posting! I just watch the titanic again tonight and really like the episodes, especially the scenes about the lifeboat. The lifeboat for titanic and then lusitania inclusion is amazing!! Rod Serling really likes to play with your subconscious part of your mind!

I like to hear what other people think of th S3 for Night Gallery!
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post #55 of 61
4/21/12 at 7:14pm

 

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Hi Jack,
Thanks for posting! I just watch the titanic again tonight and really like the episodes, especially the scenes about the lifeboat. The lifeboat for titanic and then lusitania inclusion is amazing!! Rod Serling really likes to play with your subconscious part of your mind!
I like to hear what other people think of th S3 for Night Gallery!

 

 Mine just arrived today and I haven't had a chance to dive into it. Hoping to have some time tomorrow to check out the episodes again, some of which I haven't seen since their original broadcasts all those decades ago.

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post #56 of 61
4/22/12 at 11:08am
I have really given season 3 the benefit of the doubt, but I just can't get past how uniformly awful it is. Aside from the poor transfers (the weak and murky black in the opening of every episode is terrible), the drab 1970s Universal TV shooting, the flat lighting, the scripts are just plain weak--even those by Serling. "Finnegan's Flight" and "The Girl with the Hungry Eyes," while two of the better episodes, are only mediocre at best. A shame this is the way Serling's TV career ended. It just goes to show you what moronic boneheads TV executives are. Give them a man who could create gold and they turn him into a toilet bowl cleaner.
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post #57 of 61
4/22/12 at 11:18am
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 Mine just arrived today and I haven't had a chance to dive into it. Hoping to have some time tomorrow to check out the episodes again, some of which I haven't seen since their original broadcasts all those decades ago.

Hi Richard,

When you cut the show down and take creativity away from the writers then you get what you paid for in terms quality. Night Gallery was an attempt to reap in the benefits from Twilight Zone by bringing back Mr Serling. However, the network decided in S3 to bastardized the show through cuts in production/script writing. The network must have felt people would buy into the series as many people have allegiance to Mr Serling, but that was not the case. I studios probably did not realize what they had with Serling along with Hitchcock or Karloff when it came to anthology/horror type of tv series. This plots and the narration earlier on with Thriller, Twilight Zone and/or other anthology series was well done. However, studios with their infinite wisdom tried to do something different with the shows and such created problems for themselves.

There are only a few people that can pull off anthology/mysteries type of shows and they are the following: 1. Leonard Nimoy 2. Boris Karloff 3. Rod Serling 4. Alfred Hitchcock 5. Ray Bradbury. It is sad with today's hollywood that all originality is gone and we are left with scripted reality shows based on people's sad life. I would much rather watch suspenseful TV of yesteryear then what is on tv today. When is last time there was good mini-series or documentary (jacques cousteau) or anthology series? Well, it has been awhile. I am just glad that TV has pushed more shows to dvd as this give me ample opportunity to watch these shows over again in the privacy of my own home!
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post #58 of 61
4/30/12 at 1:59pm
Wow. This looks like crap. Muddy, faded, obviously no attempt to re-master. I compare this to Season 4 of The Virginian (1965) which I am going though now and it looks like a blu-ray compared to this. The final indigation for Serling. Sigh. At least we have the Image blu-ray sets of The Twilight Zone. And, frankly, nothing in this set is worth preserving as well, anyway. Classic stories which they tried to update or make 'hip' with clothes, language and style of the time (70s). It didn't work. What were they thinking? Or smoking?
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post #59 of 61
4/30/12 at 2:08pm

I am still on Disc 1 of the final season but to me they look the same as the previous season releases in video quality. Not necessisarily bad or good, but they are Universal TV releases. Most of their shows from this period look about the same IMO.

 

But if you are not a fan of the show how did you make it to season 3? I like the show but mainly for the time period. Everyone agrees it is no T.Z. however it does have a decent following. the show did have very good ratings for all three seasons.

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post #60 of 61
4/30/12 at 4:51pm
I loved the show when it was originally on, but it just doesn't hold up like TZ. But, yes, it's cool to see some of the regular players from that era, even if they do look a bit ridiculous trying to look 70s hip (as any of us would).
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