Re: Track the Films You Watch (2007)
| I've heard Lover Come Back is better - given the above comments, should I bother? |
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| I've heard Lover Come Back is better - given the above comments, should I bother? |
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Originally Posted by george kaplan
The Maltese Falcon 1931
It's hard to judge this fairly. I actually think this is a pretty decent film, but it suffers terribly by comparison to the 41 remake. It's not in that league by a long shot, but if the 41 film had never been made, I think this would be a little known, but well thought of film. |
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Originally Posted by george kaplan
Did you also notice how much Sam Spade sounded like Burt Lancaster? |
| marred slightly by the blackface, which is a sad remnant of the times it was made, but it's hard to see anything mean-spirited in a song celebrating Lincoln's freeing the slaves. |
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Originally Posted by Malcolm R
Citizen Kane
First time viewing what many consider the greatest film of all time. While it was a good film, I'm still not particularly sure why it has been anointed such. |
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Originally Posted by george kaplan
Napoleon Dynamite And what an unfunny movie. My head still hurts from watching this.
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Originally Posted by Michael Elliott
Saw 3
I'm not a fan of this series and while I found the first two film very well made, I think they crossed the line that no horror film should cross in the fact that they were mean spirited and sadistic. I was worried at the start of this film because we once again entered that sadistic violence but thankfully this ended after the first thirty minutes and when the "game" started we actually got a pretty good little thriller. The torture scenes are a lot tamer and take a back seat to the story, which is why I think this is the best of the series. |
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Originally Posted by Michael Elliott
First and foremost, I think there's a big difference between criticizing BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN for not having hardcore sex scenes and criticizing SAW for being mean spirited. However, you could make a point with what you said...
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...However, there are two or three ways I can take this but I'll fall back on a previous post at another board re: Is Horror Moral? When it comes to the general press horror fans are looked at as weirdos because a lot of people will look at us and wonder how we could be entertained by people being slaughtered. It's hard to explain why we like violence in FRIDAY THE 13TH but I've always stated that it's really no difference then the violence you'd see in RAMBO or DIE HARD. However, not trying to sound like Roger Ebert, I think there is a line that shouldn't be crossed and yes, you could call this a personal expression but I would go further and ask what "mental state" someone would have to be in to enjoy someone being tortured in a mean spirited, sadistic way. |
| I mean, I can watch SALO and be disgusted by it and I understand someone not wanting to experience that type of filth again. |
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However, I'd be a tad bit worried if someone watched SALO and "got off" on it in an entertainment type of way. The rape scenes in THE LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT and I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE and pretty out there and I'd be worried if someone got off on it. In regards to SAW, HOSTEL and other sadistic horror films, my comments were mainly centered at someone who would get off on this type of horror. Is it moral? Has horror finally gone too far? One scene in SAW or HOSTEL is more graphic, brutal and bloody then the entire FRIDAY THE 13TH series. |
| I can be entertained by women in prison films as long as they aren't mean spirited. |
| But as in SAW 3, I think the character tells Jigsaw what he's doing isn't right no matter how he sees it and that's how I personally feel towards this sadistic violence. |
| On a technical level, the sadistic and mean spirted violence ruins and chance for a scare, which is what a horror film should deliver IMO. |
| George found HALLOWEEN too violent. I found SAW too violent. Is there a personal thing coming into play here? Yes. However, my attack against the film is because SAW isn't trying to win an Oscar and it's not trying to be great filmmaking. It's a popcorn movie that should be "fun" and "entertaining". |
| I personally don't see how torture can be fun. The mystery of the SAW movies and the "what would you do" works terrifically and makes the films what they are. |
| And, IMO, SAW 3 proves you didn't have to be sadistic in making the films effective. |
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Re: NOTHING BUT TROUBLE Here's what I wrote in last years thread: Laurel and Hardy meet a young boy and soon they discover that he's really a King. The duo must protect the boy from a few people trying to kill him. Once again, I had heard this was a pretty bad film but while it's miles from Hal Roach material, the film contains a few laughs and has a little charm to it. It's too bad Warner isn't including this in their upcoming set but my recording from TCM, which seemed to be remastered, will do just fine. The best moment takes place in a zoo where L&H must try and steal a streak away from a lion. Another nice moment is when Laurel is trying to ref a football game. Most of the gags are lazy and fall on their face but the film is a decent time killer. |
| Off topic but TCM is showing THE GOLD RUSH, RASHOMON and JUDGMENT AT NUREMBERG tonight starting at midnight. Did you record METROPOLIS last night? I know you've been meaning to catch some of these. You should certainly try and catch RASHOMON since I'm not sure if you've entered that director's world yet. (Not to mention but Hitchcock's FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT and Reed's THE THIRD MAN are on Wednesday night). |