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post #31 of 48
5/29/08 at 11:38am

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Ugh, Brett Ratner, the ultimate hack, directing Eddie Murphy who hasn't done anything worthwhile in over a decade. Sounds like a winning combination.

..and "part 3" was SO bad, that it´s not hard to imagine that what will happen to "part 4"..

Brett Ratner is at least close to "hack" in my book also. "X-Men: The Last Stand" was like a different movie (=very mediocre) after Ratner stepped in and I don´t want to even start with "Rush Hour"-movies..

"Red Dragon" was decent, though.
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post #32 of 48
5/29/08 at 11:50am

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Originally Posted by DavidPla
Then we'll get another Beverly Hills Cop III if we have a reined-in Eddie Murphy. Watch the original again where the excitement comes from what he's going to do next (and you can tell he was making half of it up as it went along).

Agreed. You don't "reign in" a talent like Eddie Murphy. If that's what you want, just hire Charlie.

John
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post #33 of 48
5/29/08 at 11:57am

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Now that my curiosity about Ratner has been picked, I googled around the combination of his name and "hack." A pattern quickly started to emerge in the stuff I read. This link contains the perfect illustration of what I've been reading, whether expressed as openly, or just lurking between the lines:

Why the Web hates Ratner - Los Angeles Times

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He's like a frat boy with a $150-million budget.

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Because he gets paid too much and laid too much for being, at best, a passable but mediocre director.

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When he stops using scripts to get himself laid and starts using them as the first step toward a compelling motion picture, perhaps 'The Web' will like him more.

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He also seems to be known more for partying and nailing hot chicks than directing, which probably bothers some as well ... hehehe

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Some people are probably annoyed by his socialite behavior and a few bonehead statements he's made to the press (and more than a few rumors about his aloof filmmaking process and extracurricular activities)

Hollywood is replete with bad directors. Few get as much bile as this one, and for once, I am truly starting to understand why.

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H
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post #34 of 48
5/29/08 at 12:16pm

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Originally Posted by DavidPla
the excitement comes from what he's going to do next (and you can tell he was making half of it up as it went along).
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Originally Posted by John Dirk
Agreed. You don't "reign in" a talent like Eddie Murphy.
I don't know if that's actually the case. Jim Carrey, for instance, is another guy people talk about like that because he looks like a guy who is just going crazy on the set, but he actually obsesses over every little detail and comes in with a very specific plan.

Eddie Murphy comes from stand-up, and while there's a certain spontaneity to that, in reading and responding to the audience, those guys hone and test their material a lot before getting on the big stage.
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post #35 of 48
5/29/08 at 12:23pm

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Originally Posted by Holadem
Now that my curiosity about Ratner has been picked, I googled around the combination of his name and "hack." A pattern quickly started to emerge in the stuff I read. This link contains the perfect illustration of what I've been reading, whether expressed as openly, or just lurking between the lines:

Eh, I think there's more to it than that. While X-Men 3 is really the only property he's actually done that's important to the "geek/web" community (Red Dragon is arguable), I seem to recall that he's been attached to a lot of other "geek" properties at different times so there is a tendency for the web to go to red alert anytime it's announced that Rattner is attached to an X-Men, Wolverine, Superman, etc even if it never materializes most of the time. I don't think anyone really cares when he's making Rush Hour movies.
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post #36 of 48
5/29/08 at 12:52pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Grey
Eh, I think there's more to it than that. While X-Men 3 is really the only property he's actually done that's important to the "geek/web" community (Red Dragon is arguable), I seem to recall that he's been attached to a lot of other "geek" properties at different times so there is a tendency for the web to go to red alert anytime it's announced that Rattner is attached to an X-Men, Wolverine, Superman, etc even if it never materializes most of the time. I don't think anyone really cares when he's making Rush Hour movies.
People were already screaming foul when he signed on for X-Men 3. Looking at his filmography, the outrage could only have been based on Rush Hour 1 & 2, Red Dragon, and perhaps After the Sunset (which no one saw.) That would have been his background as well when his name got attached to Superman Return, among other projects. The web movie community had decided that this guy was to be nowhere near "genre" stuff.

I liked X-Men 3. And I am sure I would have had a lot more fun watching a shallow Ratner-helmed Superman Returns than oddly muted snoozefest we got instead.

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post #37 of 48
5/29/08 at 12:58pm

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As I said, I think he was attached to a lot of projects before that. I, personally, did not like X-Men 3 in the slightest. Superman Returns may be a flawed movie but it was still likely more interesting to me than what I imagine we would have got from Rattner. I assure you that my opinion of Rattner as a hack has nothing to do with how often he gets laid (pretty sure that's not a problem for any Hollywood bigshot) and everything to do with the movies he's made.

FWIW, I saw and sort of enjoyed After the Sunset just as I did with the first two Rush Hour movies. He's probably a good fit for Beverly Hills Cop 4 but I would have zero desire to see him attached to anything that I actually give a crap about.
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post #38 of 48
5/29/08 at 1:16pm

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Originally Posted by Jason Seaver
I don't know if that's actually the case. Jim Carrey, for instance, is another guy people talk about like that because he looks like a guy who is just going crazy on the set, but he actually obsesses over every little detail and comes in with a very specific plan.

Eddie Murphy comes from stand-up, and while there's a certain spontaneity to that, in reading and responding to the audience, those guys hone and test their material a lot before getting on the big stage.

I agree, but the perpetual honing occurs off stage, which is exactly why they can be given free reign once on stage.

John
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post #39 of 48
5/29/08 at 7:00pm

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Martin Brest hasn't done much of anything since the Gigli debacle.

Well sure but the guy's not dead. And one bad films doesn't mean he is washed up. After all that film was kinda out of his hands.

Doug
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post #40 of 48
5/29/08 at 7:03pm

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Originally Posted by Holadem
Now that my curiosity about Ratner has been picked, I googled around the combination of his name and "hack." A pattern quickly started to emerge in the stuff I read. This link contains the perfect illustration of what I've been reading, whether expressed as openly, or just lurking between the lines:

Why the Web hates Ratner - Los Angeles Times











Hollywood is replete with bad directors. Few get as much bile as this one, and for once, I am truly starting to understand why.

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H

I agree with all of this. Never the less he managed to make Red Dragon, which is a pretty darn good movie. Yes he had a good script, but a good script doesn't make a good Director, and Ratner made lots of very good choices in that film that have nothing to do with the script.

Doug
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post #41 of 48
6/4/08 at 7:50am

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Apparently, Ratner's gearing toward a PG, PG-13 release.

For the kids.
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post #42 of 48
7/1/08 at 2:21am

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Murphy Retiring? "Cop" Naughty? (July 1st 2008)

I think he wants more money
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post #43 of 48
7/1/08 at 7:34am

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I agree. I doubt his last movie will be Meet Dave. Come on, Eddie... end your career on a high note with a really kick ass Beverly Hills Cop.
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post #44 of 48
7/1/08 at 9:20am

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Notice the part where Ratner now says it will be a "hard R."
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post #45 of 48
7/1/08 at 5:35pm

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Maybe Eddie Murphy just needs time to rediscover himself after his divorce, lost Oscar bid, and string of shitty G rated kid flicks.

I'm sure he'll be back. But if his hiatus helps the film, then why not?
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post #46 of 48
9/11/08 at 1:38am

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Just read on IMDB that the iconic Harold Faultermeyer 'Axel F' score will be used in the fourth film.

Well that's good news.

I'm looking forward to this, I think I was one of the five people on this planet that actually liked Beverly Hills Cop III.
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post #47 of 48
9/11/08 at 7:22am

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I've always liked Beverly Hills Cop 3, too. It's actually the only film of the series that I'd seen for the longest time. I finally got around to checking out the original just last week. It was great fun, of course, and I look forward to checking out the second and revisiting the third. I hope that the fourth one lives up to its predecessors.
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post #48 of 48
9/11/08 at 10:45am

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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
Just read on IMDB that the iconic Harold Faultermeyer 'Axel F' score will be used in the fourth film.

Well that's good news.

I'm looking forward to this, I think I was one of the five people on this planet that actually liked Beverly Hills Cop III.

Hey! I like BHC 3 too. Always did. Dunno why, even though it was pretty goofy compared to the first two.

"Surge? Sounds like a ditergent."

"Would someone turn that fucking song off!!!"

:p
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