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Originally Posted by Gary OS
Gary "08/14 - the day the waiting stopped (I hope)" O.

That's a great sign-off line, Gary . . . how appropriate for "The Fugitive!"
post #62 of 707

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If anyone is interested in viewing the Tim Daly version of The Fugitive, episodes are available to view for free on-line at AOL's in2Tv website:

http://video.aol.com/video-category/the-fugitive/1593

Again, not as good as the original, but I liked it!
I was more interested in the one QM Production I've seen so few episodes of and it was his biggest hit
The F.B.I.. I tried to download the first one that AOL has (with guest star Burt Reynolds) and I figured I'd watch all of the ones on that site in the order they were uploaded. The problem? I have a Macintosh and it looks like AOL doesn't support Mac. Is there a way around that?
post #63 of 707

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Originally Posted by Jeff#
The 2-part finale was entertaining too, although The Fugitive wasn't the first TV series to go that route.
That honor goes to THE PRISONER earlier that year.

Maybe he meant to say "first American TV series" to go that route. Remember, The Prisoner was a British production that just happened to be shown on a major American network.

Won't ever see the likes of that happening again: nowadays if the networks like a British show, they'll just recast all the parts with Americans, rewrite everything and basically ruin the whole thing (Amanda's? Men Behaving Badly? Coupling, anyone?).
post #64 of 707

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Won't ever see the likes of that happening again: nowadays if the networks like a British show, they'll just recast all the parts with Americans, rewrite everything and basically ruin the whole thing (Amanda's? Men Behaving Badly? Coupling, anyone?).

However, the US version of The Office is positively brilliant.
post #65 of 707

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However, the US version of The Office is positively brilliant.

I agree one hundred percent!!
post #66 of 707

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Originally Posted by Jeff#
The second Fugitive series had terrific theme music though, which alone was superior to both the first series' theme and the Ford remake.

I have to disagree with this, though it's purely subjective. IMHO, the original series theme and incidental music by Pete Rugolo is hard to top. The theme was majestic and brassy and fit the series perfectly. For those that may not be aware, Silva America released a soundtrack CD back in 2001 with the original Rugolo score as originally performed by The London Studio Symphony Orchestra. It's sadly out of print (available used), but on the amazon page you can still listen to samples of the cues:

http://www.amazon.com/Fugitive-Origi.../dp/B0000560K3

In addition to the incidental music by Rugolo, Ken Wilhoit, musical director for THE FUGITIVE, used cues from the CBS music library - virtually all of the score for TWILIGHT ZONE's "Back There" was used in "The Girl From Little Egypt" - as well as stuff from Capitol.

Hopefully, one of the benefits of DVD's of the series will be the restoration of the music to its proper grandeur, rather than the warbly mess that time-sped syndication prints gave us over the years.

Harry
post #67 of 707

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Originally Posted by Harry-N
So since it seems we'll be getting these in split seasons, that means fifteen episodes per set. So what are those first fifteen episodes?

1. Fear in a Desert City
2. The Witch
3. The Other Side of the Mountain
4. Never Wave Goodbye-part 1
5. Never Wave Goodbye-part 2
6. Decision in the Ring
7. Smoke Screen
8. See Hollywood and Die
9. Ticket to Alaska
10. Fatso
11. Nightmare At Northoak
12. Glass Tightrope
13. Terror at High Point
14. The Girl From Little Egypt
15. Home Is The Hunted

In that group we have the pilot episode, an exiting two parter with Susan Oliver, the excellent Nightmare At Northoak, which will have new viewers on the edge of their seats, a flashback story dealing with the night of Helen Kimble's murder, and Kimble's first return home.

This is a great crop of episodes to start the series off with a "bang."

Harry

"Nightmare at Northoak" was my favorite episode of the entire series. This particular show had everything which epitomized the quality of "The Fugitive":
excellent writing and acting, dramatic suspense,haunting music at key moments...

As an aside, this episode was watched by many people of a grieving nation who wanted to have their minds diverted from the events of the preceding few days...the episode was originally broadcast on November 26,1963...the day after President Kennedy's funeral...
post #68 of 707

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Originally Posted by Craig Beam
However, the US version of The Office is positively brilliant.
Except for the nauseating hand-held camerawork, which has kept me away from several hit TV series (such as NYPD Blue and Law & Order). To that I say: Give me steadicam or give me sitcoms!
post #69 of 707

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I have to disagree with this, though it's purely subjective. IMHO, the original series theme and incidental music by Pete Rugolo is hard to top. The theme was majestic and brassy and fit the series perfectly. For those that may not be aware, Silva America released a soundtrack CD back in 2001 with the original Rugolo score as originally performed by The London Studio Symphony Orchestra. It's sadly out of print (available used), but on the amazon page you can still listen to samples of the cues:

http://www.amazon.com/Fugitive-Origi.../dp/B0000560K3

In addition to the incidental music by Rugolo, Ken Wilhoit, musical director for THE FUGITIVE, used cues from the CBS music library - virtually all of the score for TWILIGHT ZONE's "Back There" was used in "The Girl From Little Egypt" - as well as stuff from Capitol.

Hopefully, one of the benefits of DVD's of the series will be the restoration of the music to its proper grandeur, rather than the warbly mess that time-sped syndication prints gave us over the years.

Agree with you Harry on the music for the original "The Fugitive". There's no substitute for the raw and gritty sound in music composition that was a 60s era showcase. I bought the soundtrack CD on initial release.

Interesting about Jerry Goldsmith's score for "Back There" surfacing in a "Fugitive" episode. I'm very curious about how that harpischord laden antique-y sound that Goldsmith composed plays out. I'd be particularly interested if the most memorable cue is used (starts after Russell Johnson says the line "That's it...I'll go home, just go home..." and walks down the street). That cue was also used for the opening titles of "To Serve Man" and is one of the most stirring bits of music I've ever heard.
post #70 of 707

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Pete Rugolo's music for the original Fugitive was just fine, but the only thing about the newer series that was better than the old show was the theme music.

However, the incidentals on the 1960s The Fugitive were much better, even though a lot of that music was not Rugolo's at all, but rather re-used from earlier series (such as what Jerry Goldsmith and Bernard Hermann had done on The Twilight Zone, music from The Untouchables, etc.).

The best music on the original show heard during The Fugitive's final season was borrowed from The Outer Limits's first season, even though Dominic Frontiere was only in Quinn Martin's regular employ on
12 O' Clock High, The F.B.I. , and The Invaders.
post #71 of 707

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Harry-N,
Thanks for the link to the Fugitive soundtrack. That really brought back fond memories of watching the Fugitive every week.
post #72 of 707
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The incidentals on the 1960s The Fugitive were much better, even though a lot of that music was not Rugolo's at all, but rather re-used from earlier series.
Yes, I've noticed that too. And I was surprised when I heard "Fugitive" music in other shows. But those are apparently "library" cues/bridges.

Reminds me of a similar instance when "Leave It To Beaver" music constantly shows up in "Alfred Hitchcock Presents". Just doesn't seem quite "right", somehow.

And I agree with previous posts re. The Fugitive Soundtrack Album. Very nice having the theme music in stereo. .....

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-re...e=ReviewDetail
post #73 of 707

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Originally Posted by michael_ks
Interesting about Jerry Goldsmith's score for "Back There" surfacing in a "Fugitive" episode. I'm very curious about how that harpischord laden antique-y sound that Goldsmith composed plays out.

It works surprisingly well, since in that episode ("The Girl From Lttle Egypt"), Richard Kimble is injured, and goes in and out of consciousness. As he hallucinates, the weird harpsichord strains from the "Back There" score begin, taking us into his nightmare world.

Harry
post #74 of 707

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Reminds me of a similar instance when "Leave It To Beaver" music constantly shows up in "Alfred Hitchcock Presents". Just doesn't seem quite "right", somehow.
Well, that was different because both of those series were filmed at Revue Studios, and obviously the only Beaver music that turned up in the half-hour Hitchcock episodes were the more humorous tales. Come to type of it, Alfred Hitchcock Presents probably had that music first before Leave it to Beaver picked it up.

As for Jerry Goldsmith's wonderful Twilight Zone music, much of it was heard primarily in other CBS television and radio series. Much of it originated in the 1950s on such shows as the anthology series CBS Radio Workship (Goldsmith did the music for the premiere 2-part episode "Brave New World" in January 1956, hosted by original author Auldous Huxley.). A lot more debuted in various CBS westerns in the late 1950s such as GUNSMOKE, Have Gun Will Travel, and Rawhide. The fact that it turned up on ABC on The Fugitive in 1963 was very unusual.
post #75 of 707

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I'm really looking forward to this set, even though the season is boken into volumes, makes it seem more affordable. I would prefer whole season sets but it's not bothering me much with the Voyage sets. I'm glad it's also coming out in August, since there isn't anything else I want coming out then, so far, and June and July are loaded with sets I want. I only remember seeing the two episodes that NBC aired when the movie came out and I liked what I saw.
post #76 of 707

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Looks like the rumors are true..... August 14: Season one, volume one.
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post #77 of 707

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Originally Posted by Hank E
Looks like the rumors are true..... August 14: Season one, volume one.

Yes, as confirmed by The Digital Bits just a short time ago!! Great, great news.

Gary "August 14th - the day the waiting stopped!" O.
post #78 of 707

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Except for the nauseating hand-held camerawork, which has kept me away from several hit TV series (such as NYPD Blue and Law & Order). To that I say: Give me steadicam or give me sitcoms!

I fully agree! I bought, but couldn't watch, 24 and Homicide for this reason. Enough with the "showy" camera work and hyper editing.
post #79 of 707

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Thanks, Hank and Gary, for the confirmation; this is very much a "day of release" buy for me!
post #80 of 707

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I fully agree! I bought, but couldn't watch, 24 and Homicide for this reason. Enough with the "showy" camera work and hyper editing.
Not to go back on what I said earlier, but I LOVE 24 since it does keep the shaky camerawork to a minimum. It's just a well-done series....even with the implausibility of Jack Bauer getting away with every assult and sometimes murder under the sun (and moon) in the course of protecting our country. Eventually I'll buy the whole series on DVD but not until FOX goes the Buffy route and packages it all in one large box. Kiefer Sutherland is signed until 2009 though, so I'll have a long wait.
post #81 of 707

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Nice shot of cover posted on tvshowsondvd.com Looks like this will be released in the same manner as "The Untouchables". I would have preferred a box with slim cases (and of course entire first season, to say nothing of a complete series in "Land of the Giants" fashion), but I'm just happy that this penultimate drama is finally seeing the light of day!

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7254
post #82 of 707

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Seeing that box art brings up an interesting piece of trivia. THE FUGITIVE aired originally on ABC. The reruns aired around the time of the motion picture release were on NBC. And the DVDs are coming with a CBS eye on them. Strange how "...fate moves its huge hand..."

Glad to see this officially coming out. Hopefully they'll be nicely remastered.

Harry
post #83 of 707

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That picture of Kimble on the cover running from the train is cool, although I don't recall Janssen ever wearing a jacket like that....certainly not in the first season anyway.
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post #85 of 707

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David,

No need to worry. This package does look to be the same as "The Untouchables" set that Paramount recently released, and that's good news. The packaging contains 4 single-sided discs. And I'm sure that's what we'll get with this release as well.

Gary "I would be bummed if these were double-sided, but I'm confident that Paramount will release them on single-sided discs, just like they've done with all their other classic series" O.
post #86 of 707
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Thanks Gary.

Yeah, I jumped the gun earlier with my stupid post above (since deleted so I wouldn't look like the total idiot I'm now admitting I am by not checking my facts first).

But, holy mackerel, you're fast! I deleted that post just minutes after putting it up. You're faster than Dick Kimble on a batch of steroids.
post #87 of 707

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Just wanted to add my "Hallelujah!" to the chorus. Can't wait for Aug. 14...."the day the waiting stopped" (Thanks, Gary)


post #88 of 707

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And as with Streets of San Francisco, the second QM Production to be put out on DVD
is also released in half-season sets. Why??
post #89 of 707

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Originally Posted by Jeff#
And as with Streets of San Francisco, the second QM Production to be put out on DVD
is also released in half-season sets. Why??


So they can make more money pretty simple explanation, this is their strategy now for all releases, So how about Have Gun Will Travel I'll settle for a Half season over nothing.
post #90 of 707
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That picture of Kimble on the cover running from the train is cool...

But not technically accurate at all. Kimble, after being freed by the train wreck, certainly didn't have his suitcase with him as he fled. (LOL.)

Looks like a pasted-on head of David Janssen too. And I'm wondering why they didn't make use of the distinctive "Fugitive Font" for the lettering? (Like this example below on the 'wanted' poster.)

Oh, well.

I'd like to see this on the front cover of a future Fugitive release:

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