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Hmm, what receiver do you have mark?

It sounds like you're only hearing the left and right channels from a discrete mix. I can't think of anyway that could happen on the PS3's end.

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It's the SONY 810: STR-DG810 | Home Theater A/V Receiver (6.1 channel) | Sony | SonyStyle USA

It doesn't internally decode the 2 newest audio formats, which is why I'm making the PS3 send PCM over the HDMI connection.

Although now that I think about it; is the demo disc using an audio format that the PS3 can't decode? I heard that the PS3 decodes most audio formats and the 2 new formats are going to be part of an update, but has it been implemented into any of the updates yet?

Maybe that's the problem? Can anyone confirm what audio spec is on the demo disc?

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There are different audio formats on the demo disc depending on what you're watching.
Pressing the display button of course will tell you what audio format is being outputted.

The demo disc mine came with is a bit odd in that the dialogue for some of the presentations comes from the left channel, not the center.

It's also 720p, despite advertising 1080p presentations.

Sounds like your PS3 came with a different demo disc.

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Mark, the PS3 is capable of decoding all current audio formats, as long as it has the latest firmware installed.

You can check your version by going to Settings>System Settings>System Information. The oldest version for full audio support is 2.4 I believe.

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OK, my system is 2.43, so if that means that I have the ability to decode all audio formats, then there must be something else wrong.

It's funny that while Nicholas doesn't seem to have the same problem as I am, he also has dialog coming from the left.

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It's called "PlayStation Beyond 2".

So here's the deal - Most of the tracks show up as "Dolby Digital 2 ch" (and my receiver only plays audio from left and right speakers). I'd say 75% of them play fine, but a few are either missing dialoge or play VO on right and Music in left.

There are a few DD 5.1 tracks and they all play fine (i.e. My receiver plays full 5.1).

I'm wondering if there's something wrong with the way the disc was created. I guess I won't know if there's a problem until I get a Blu-Ray movie and test it out. But I guess if the PS3 is saying that it's outputting 2.0. then there's probably no problems with my system and might be the disc.


EDIT: now I know why I'm not getting the center to work on the 2.0 ch - that's because of the PCM output. When I use my receiver as the decoder, it will take a DD 2.0 and use the 3 speakers, but being that I'm using the PS3 to decode, the receiver (obviously) is only sending 2 channels (i.e. right and left) - That makes sense.

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Question for everyone:

Anyone have HDMI dropout issues with the PS3 when decoding HBR audio and outputting via PCM?

I used to HDMI straight to my Sony KDS-60A3000, and while their would be screen flickers as a disc loaded up (especially BD-J discs), it would not be more than 2 or 3, and the signal would always recover well in advance of anything happening onscreen. My audio would be output not over HDMI, but over optical to an old receiver that was incapable of decoding the new codecs and couldn't accept more than 2.0 PCM.

Recently I bought a Pioneer VSX-03TXH and now am going HDMI to that and from there to the TV. Now I'm sending all codecs decoded internally by the PS3 and outputted via PCM (2.0 all the way up to 5.1@96khz) through the HDMI to the Pioneer. Now there are more screen flickers and occasionally the picture won't recover and I'll have to pause then play the BD in order for the picture to appear. With John Mayer's "Where the Light Is" which is output at 5.1PCM 96khz, occasionally when I chapter skip there will be a brief dropout (whereas chapter skips with all other BDs I own don't do this...but no other BD I own outputs at 5.1/96khz PCM so I'm guessing it's a bit-rate issue).

I'm using Monoprice 3992 HDMI cables which are confirmed Cat2, 340MHz cables, and I have 2 other HDMI cables from different manufacturers which are also supposed to be 1.3a and it makes no difference.

I'm at wits end here. Anyone else having issues? I'm tempted to pick up a Sony BD-350 just to see if the problem exists there too.

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Today I picked up a new receiver and I will connect it with HDMI and output the PS3 audio as PCM.

It's an inexpensive Sony 7.1 Channel A/V Receiver (STRDG720) that I'll connect later tonight. It'll be 5.1, not 6 or 7.1 as I have no use for either of those (5.1 is just fine to me and apartment space is limited - I don't need a rear center directly behind my head or side speakers)
so I don't know if that will be a factor in the playback with regard to the issues described here.


When it's all connected, I'll report here if there are any issues as you and Mark have described.

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Ok, new member here so be gentle please.
Anyway, the missus just bought me a PS3 for my bday last week. Everything seems to be working normally but I did have a question. How many HDMI outputs are there on the actual device? I'm at work now and am not looking at it, but I recall seeing only one. If I have that one hooked up to my TV, how would I connect it to an audio device via HDMI?

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The audio and video are both transmitted over the HDMI cable. You don't need 2 outs on the PS3 because you're no longer going to be going directly to the TV.

Here's what you do (note: This requires 2 HDMI cables)

What you do is, connect the HDMI output of the PS3 into the HDMI input on the receiver, then connect the HDMI output of the receiver to the HDMI input on your TV.

Obviously, the only downside to this is that the receiver has to be turned on in order to view the PS3 on your TV, but that's not really a big deal.

EDIT: Just for clarification, I think your confusion lies with plugging the HDMI into the receiver and wondering how to get video to the TV.....when you plug the HDMI cable into the receiver, the receiver will accept both the audio and video signals...it will process the audio and pass it to the speakers, then it will send the video to the HDMI out which gets sent to your TV.

Most receivers should have the ability to choose what gets sent via the HDMI output. With mine, you can choose to just send video, or send video and audio. The reason for the later would be if you wanted to turn down the amplifier and use your TV speakers (possibly for nighttime play?), but it's probably best to not send the audio to the TV since it's already being processed by the receiver.

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Hello, and welcome.

If your audio receiver has HDMI input, you connect the PS3 (which yes, has one HDMI out) to the receiver, then run another HDMI from the receiver to the TV.

EDIT:

Mark beat me by a minute!

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You could also buy this 4x2 HDMI switcher/splitter from Monoprice:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

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Ahhh...I see. Thanks for the thorough explanation, Mark. Oh, and Nicholas, though late, your contribution is appreciated as well.

BobL - is there any risk of the signal getting weaker via the splitter?

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If you read some of the reviews on Monoprice for some of the splitters (not sure about that model in particular) you do get reviews saying they experience some dropouts. I don't use one so I can't vouch for the validity of those claims, so take it with a grain of salt.

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rolla, do you have a receiver that accepts HDMI? If so, how many does it have?

I would assume that 2 HDMI inputs would be the minimum amount of in's on a receiver, so even if you just had the two, you still wouldn't need a splitter because the receiver does the splitting.

If I'm correct, you really only need the splitter when you've surpassed the number of inputs on the receiver. Here; read this quote from the web site: So I wouldn't worry about getting a splitter just yet. Again, it really all depends on how many HDMI devices you have and how many inputs you have on your receiver.

Of course, if you are going to buy a new receiver (with HDMI inputs) make sure there are enough for future use. It would be best to put that extra $80 (for the splitter) and put it toward the purchase of a receiver that has 3 or more inputs.

I mean, other than a Blu-Ray Player (i.e. PS3), your cable box, and maybe a high end SD-DVD player, you may not need more than 3 inputs, which shouldn't be too expensive to find in a receiver.


I would imagine the only real need for an external splitter would be to upconvert non HDMI signals to 1080 signals via the HDMI output, but I'm not sure what the deal would be (or cost) of purchasing one of those.

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Right now, I have an old analog Yamaha receiver. However, it is definately time for an upgrade. Not sure what sort of receiver I'll get yet, but I was already leanign against the splitter idea anyway, thanks.

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I haven't experienced this or dropouts and would have sent the switcher/splitter back to Monoprice if I had experienced it. I run a 30 foot cable to my front projector, so if there was going to be a signal strength problem, I think I would have encountered it.

When my PS3 switches between modes (from game to PSN to Blu), I'll sometimes have signal interruptions but the switcher fairly quickly locks back onto the signal.

However, because I have a profound disrespect for the HDMI/HDCP combination, I always add that different hardware configurations may easily yield less satisfactory results.

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My point was, if you're going to buy an HDMI receiver, then why not use it to do the switching? That's partly what they're geared to do.

Of course, unless your peripherals are so far away from the reciever that it's worth adding a splitter closer to the sources.

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Well, that's just it, I have no idea what kind of receiver I'll be getting. Honestly, I haven't even begun looking for one yet. I was just looking for the PS3 output answer and I've gotten some good info from you guys and plenty to think about, thanks.

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If I'm understanding you right, I don't think an HDMI splitter is needed in your case. If you are keeping your old receiver for now, use HDMI for your video only and connect audio to your receiver with the best option available. Do you have optical input on your receiver?

If you are getting a new receiver, hopefully one with HDMI input and output (not pass through only), you wouldn't needed a splitter anyway.

Know what I mean?

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rolla, your original question was about passing audio to the receiver via HDMI. In order to accomplish this, you first need a receiver that has HDMI inputs. Most HDMI receivers have more than one input, so you wouldn't need a switcher.

Unless you are confused and think that because you are using HDMI for the video, that you have to send audio to a receiver via HDM?? That's not true, you can still go directly to the TV via HDMI (for video) and (as Franklin mentioned) send audio to the receiver without HDMI cables. You can use the optical out. Of course, this won't allow you the high end audio codecs, but if you're receiver is old, then that won't be a concern anyways.

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The receiver I connected works fine but because it's an inexpensive one, it doesn't pass through component sources to the HDMI out.

However, I enjoy TrueHD and DTS-MA through PCM and everything works fine on it with no audio/video issues.

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Hello all,

I have been lurking forever, my name is Tim , I just bought a Onkyo 807 receiver and cannot figure out why my PS3 will not send sound through receiver. I have run the HDMI cable through the 807 and from the 807 to the PS3 via HDMI why so sound? PS3 is fully updated 2.43.

Thanks

Tim

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Is your audio output on the PS3 set to HDMI?

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Nicholas, I just bought "Bee Movie" and threw it in the PS3 for a quick sound check of the TrueHD track. It worked fine; I saw the display say it was Dolby TrueHD and it sent uncompressed audio to my receiver.

So I'm guessing that there may be some sort of issue with the PS3 Demo disc. It looks like my system is in working order.

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Does your demo disc have the "Blu-ray disc" presentation showing all those Disney/Buena Vista films during its run time, notably the Pirate movies? It's still funny to me that it's in 720p despite advertising 1080p resolution and how impressive it's supposed to be.

If so, that's the one problematic title on that disc, as I played the disc from beginning to end for the first time a couple of days ago.

All the movie trailers and game trailers sounded normal and were all TrueHD, even though the game trailers were TrueHD stereo.

I always avoided the game trailers in the past but wanted to see the entire disc's contents...this thing is programmed to play on an endless loop!

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No, my disc doesn't have tha Disney video. And no, none of them show up as TrueHD, just DD5.1 and DD2.

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Sorry it took so long to post. I found out it was the new TV. Crutchfield replaced it just yesterday everything works fine now.

So this thread has been dead for a while. I'm not even sure if this was the thread we were using but the forums search isn't the same anymore and this is where it's going;

Anyways, the latest major software update for the PS3, v3.0, is available now for download.

And it's breaking some games. http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=54603