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post #691 of 793

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Originally Posted by Chris S
I had both the A1 and the PS3 running in my setup for a time and while the differences were fairly minimal I preferred the PS3. Not sure if I could really quantify why exactly. It just looked better to me.

I have a PS3 and a Toshiba HD-A2. I was watching a rented SD DVD on the PS3 last night when it got stuck and could not play. I took it out and noticed there was a large scratch. I put it in the A2 and it played fine.
post #692 of 793

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Originally Posted by TonyD
hmm, so how do i get the music on my macbook or pc onto my ps3?
i have a wireless router too.

i see an option on the ps3 to search for media but it doesnt find anything.

While not a direct answer to your question, take a look at this for the Apple:

Nullriver Software ~ Products ~ MediaLink for PS3

It looks very cool, but I have not tried it yet. I am going to have to send my PS3 off to Sony so I haven't installed it yet. Has any one here had trouble with their PS3 drive? Mine has stopped reading PS3 games. Strangely enough it still appears to play Blu-ray movies and it still plays SD-DVDs and PS2 games.
post #693 of 793

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Originally Posted by RolandL
I have a PS3 and a Toshiba HD-A2. I was watching a rented SD DVD on the PS3 last night when it got stuck and could not play. I took it out and noticed there was a large scratch. I put it in the A2 and it played fine.

I suspect that kind of thing can work out either way on a case-by-case basis though I do think Toshiba SD players were always pretty good at properly handling minor issues and such w/ SD playback while I've never been as confident w/ Sony's transports. No idea if any of that has been inherited by their respective HD players/transports -- and of course, this is just my own opinion based on what I've observed over the years.

OTOH, I have at least one SD title that plays fine on the PS3, but would not load at all on my comparably priced, 1-yo Denon SD uni-player. The disc has no noticeable defects on it -- and other titles in that series work fine on both players as far as I can tell. Go figure...

_Man_
post #694 of 793

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Hi all,

Quick question...

I have my Sony STR-DG910 AVR hooked up to a PS3 via HDMI. I am getting the blue multichannel light at all times. What I am trying to say is it is in multichannel mode (shows PCM 48) when I am just on the PS3 dashboard.

When I play music CD's or MP3's that are two channel it still shows mutlichannel PCM48 but I can hear that sound is only coming out of the main speakers which is what I want, but I cannot utilise the A.F.D. or any of the processing modes - I get a message "not used" when I try to use them.

Is this correct and normal operation?

Is there a STR-DG910 thread in this forum - if so please post a link as I cannot find it with a search?


Cheers
Douw
post #695 of 793

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I have my PS3 set to "normal" on the upscale and my LCD tv set to "just Scan" mode. When i play Pulp Fiction and Weird Science the picture appears in the center of the screen with black bars top, bottom, and the sides.
Anyone know what i may have setup wrong?
post #696 of 793

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Originally Posted by douwgza
When I play music CD's or MP3's that are two channel it still shows mutlichannel PCM48 but I can hear that sound is only coming out of the main speakers which is what I want, but I cannot utilise the A.F.D. or any of the processing modes - I get a message "not used" when I try to use them.

I have the 3300ES and have the same issue. I don't understand what's going on but I found a work-around. Go into the audio settings on the PS3 and manually turn off all the 5.1 and 7.1 LPCM settings. If I remember right you can leave the DD & DTS 5.1 settings on.
post #697 of 793

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Originally Posted by Russell B
I have my PS3 set to "normal" on the upscale and my LCD tv set to "just Scan" mode. When i play Pulp Fiction and Weird Science the picture appears in the center of the screen with black bars top, bottom, and the sides.
Anyone know what i may have setup wrong?
Sounds like non-anamorphic DVDs to me.
post #698 of 793

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I just got this in an email newsletter. Interesting:



Nintendo Wins December Console Race

Here's news that should come as a surprise to no one. The Nintendo Wii outsold both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 in December 2007. It even outsold the PS2, which also happened to outsell the newer PS3. Check out this story and take notes because I think the console game story will be very different by this time next year.

Can't PS3 Catch a Break?
Nintendo Wins Dec. Console Race - News and Analysis by PC Magazine
post #699 of 793

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Unboxed a brand new 40GB Saturday. Is there a way to output to both HDMI (hooked to TV) and Optical (hooked to Receiver). I'd like to have the option of listening thru receiver as well as TV during "Quiet Hours"
post #700 of 793

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Originally Posted by wally
Is there a way to output to both HDMI (hooked to TV) and Optical (hooked to Receiver). I'd like to have the option of listening thru receiver as well as TV during "Quiet Hours"

Only one digital audio output may be active at a time. To do what you want you will need to change the output settings in the XMB every time you want to switch.
post #701 of 793

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Bummer, but thanks Lyle.
post #702 of 793

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Am I able to plug any, say Dell, USB keyboard into the USB port and use it?
post #703 of 793

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I've got to say I went Blu a couple of weeks ago and the PS3 was the way to do it for me. now i've seen a lot of people evangelising about this games console as a serious BD player and i have to agree. I never thought i would have one of these lowly games machines at the heart of home cinema setup but how wrong I was. I've seen people complaining that there is no display to tell you how mush is left of the film, why!? you can have that info if you press one button on the PS3 on my other kit i turn off those displays while i'm watching i don't like the distraction.

What i will say though is a serious piece of kit one of the bargains of this whole format war. I have looked at HDDVD as well I mean the fact it's a great upscaler and there's loads of films out there i would happily buy but i think i'm going to be patient and see what happens with Blu.

Also can I just mention the media server part as well, i stream my music from my PC faultlessly, very impressed.

I bought the 40gb model so PS2 backwards compatibility but my boys has got one of those upstairs so not a biggie.

Oh yes and did anyone tell you, you can play games on it as well...Amazing!

Cheers

Lance UK
post #704 of 793

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Originally Posted by wally
Am I able to plug any, say Dell, USB keyboard into the USB port and use it?
As long as they use standard USB drivers, which I imagine they do, then they will be fine.

You can also use a wireless keyboard and mouse too if you'd prefer that.
post #705 of 793

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ATTENTION SONY:

We are swiftly approaching March. WHERE THE **** IS MY DTS-MA SUPPORT FOR MY PS3?!?!?!

Thank you.





Adam
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The message we're hearing is that Sony is stalling the release to give Panasonic a chance to release the BD50 for a month or so to have some bragging rights before the PS3 gets updated for 2.0 and DTS-HD MA playback.
post #707 of 793

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what would be the reason for that.
why would sony care if panasonic has bragging rights?
post #708 of 793

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what would be the reason for that.
why would sony care if panasonic has bragging rights?

You know how all of us with the PS3 talk about how it's the "best" BD player because of all it can do and the fact that it will be updated for DTS-HD MA decoding and 2.0 profile... and that it costs just a fraction of what stand-alone players that do the same thing will cost? Sony and all the other manfuacturers know that too, and so Sony purposefully 'holds back' the time-table of some of its updates for the PS3 so other manufacturers can have a chance to market and sell products before the PS3 gets updated and competes for sales based on those features.

Sony is a member of the BDA which is made up of all those other companies making BD players. Neither Sony nor the other BDA members want the potential sales of their new stand-alone players trounced right off the bat by saavy HT consumers just buying the PS3 instead to get the same features for less money. So Sony purposefully "holds back" it's updates for the PS3 to allow other manufacturers of stand-alones to get their hardware out for a month or two to get some sales... then the PS3 releases a firmware update that provides the same featureset.

Toshiba had great hardware at a great price. But the downside was that by undercutting the potential profits of other manufactures, other companies stayed out of the HD DVD hardware game. Sony doesn't want to make that same mistake, they want to ENCOURAGE other manfucturers to make fully featured BD hardware and to turn a profit doing so.

Sony did the same thing BTW with the update for profile 1.1 PIP on the PS3... Panny had released the BD30, which was one of the first profile 1.1 PIP players on the market, for about a month before Sony swung in and released the update to make the PIP profile 1.1 spec too.

That gave Panny room to sell some products and be able to put out marketing material bragging about the exlusive features of their players for a little while before the PS3 offered the same thing for a free update.

No format can be sustained long-term with only one manufacturer producing and supporting hardware, and Sony doesn't want to discourage product development from other manufacturers by negating the profitability of their every effort by releasing updates for the PS3 that trump their product design/release schedule.
post #709 of 793

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There's also more to the PS3 than just lossless audio for movies, and Sony doesn't release dozens of incremental updates. They release BIG updates, and there's a ton of new functionality being worked on for the next release.
post #710 of 793

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Originally Posted by TonyD
what would be the reason for that.
why would sony care if panasonic has bragging rights?
Because unlike To--er, some other companies, they're willing to work with their partners. Also, IIRC Panasonic didn't just help develop Blu-ray, they also own most of the patents.
post #711 of 793

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Panasonic has had by far the best standalone players so far as well. So hurting them would hurt the format. Not everyone will buy a PS3, no matter how awesome it is. And if they only had Sony's players to judge, well not as bad as if there were only Samsung players to judge, but you see what I'm saying...
post #712 of 793

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Originally Posted by Zack Gibbs
There's also more to the PS3 than just lossless audio for movies, and Sony doesn't release dozens of incremental updates. They release BIG updates, and there's a ton of new functionality being worked on for the next release.


that's news to me


i can remember a lot of small updates (small on functionality mind you, not file size)
post #713 of 793

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Sony have so far released updates via the standard way of logging these things which is broken down into the classic update labelling of major.minor.repair

This would be V1.10 Major=1, Minor=1, Repair=0

I may be missing something from the list but it's something along the lines of...
V1.10 (November 17, 2006)
V1.11 (November 28, 2006)
V1.30-1.32 (December 21, 2006)
V1.50-1.54 (February 28, 2007)
V1.60 (March 23, 2007)
V1.70 (May 3, 2007)
V1.80-1.82 (June 28, 2007)
V2.00 (November 8, 2007)
V2.01 (November 19, 2007)
V2.10 (December 18, 2007)

Sony made a clear statement recently that there wouldn't be so many of the minor (After the "." in the V number) in the future and that they would go for larger updates with longer gaps between them.

Going back to why the PS3 wasn't launched as a fully fledged Profile 2 BD player. One of the problems that Toshiba made with their HD DVD players was that they were producing the most fully featured players and selling them at quite a large loss which not all companies could handle.

Most of the players out there now are either Toshiba players or re-badged Toshiba players with a different companies branding on. One of the problems with this is that if somebody walks into a shop and sees a Toshiba player a re-badged player from a company they've never heard of with exactly the same features listed (Due to the hardware being exactly the same) but the Toshiba branded model is also cheaper then nobody buys the re-badged model.

It was quite clear to see this when Toshiba kept cutting the prices and other companies started to drop out of their agreement to re-badge the Toshiba players and just stopped supporting HD DVD.

Sony have needed to work with their partners to ensure that Blu-ray was a success.
post #714 of 793

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Please forgive me for asking this, but wow this is a long thread, i did a search but i came up with just too many results.

Ive been using my PS3 for BD for quite a while, but now ive finally got my new amp on order, and Onkyo NR905.

so what im wondering is what settings should i be using to get my lossless audio?

I believe i should be bitstreaming to my amp is that correct?
post #715 of 793

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Sadly, no,

the PS3 has two main faults:

1. it won't bitstream advanced audio codecs over its hdmi 1.3 (it's not a full-featured HDMI 1.3 chipset)

2. it doesn't have multi-channel analog out.


So you can't use the advanced audio decoding inside the Onkyo with the PS3. But instead you'll set the PS3's HDMI output settings to "PCM" which will instruct the PS3 to decode advanced (and non-advanced) compressed audio streams to PCM and then send it that way to your receiver.

It's hoped that a future update will let the PS3 stay in "bitstream" mode yet make it smart enough to decode advanced audio to PCM when it's there... so you could still go bitstream with regular DD and DTS incase your receiver offers better DSP on those signals if you choose.

Internal DTS-HD MA decoding will be coming to the PS3 a couple of months *after* the Panny BD50 has been on the market (to let the Panny have a chance to gather sales before the PS3 offers 2.0 profile and DTS-HD MA decoding on its own).
post #716 of 793

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I believe i should be bitstreaming to my amp is that correct?
As David explained above, no. You're getting the same lossless audio regardless of where it's decoded, though, just a different light on the receiver. This unpacking to PCM is not an extra step required with player decoding, it would have to happen in the AVR anyway before processing-D/A conversion.
post #717 of 793

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Ok got it thanks guys
post #718 of 793

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Originally Posted by Russell B
I have my PS3 set to "normal" on the upscale and my LCD tv set to "just Scan" mode. When i play Pulp Fiction and Weird Science the picture appears in the center of the screen with black bars top, bottom, and the sides.
Anyone know what i may have setup wrong?

With "Weird Science", the old release is non-Anamorphic, but the newer "High School Reunion Collection" is Anamorphic.

With "Pulp Fiction", the original release is non-Anamorphic, but the newer CE/LE are Anamorphic.

What´s "just scan"-mode anyway? No overscan, or..?
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Originally Posted by Jari K
With "Weird Science", the old release is non-Anamorphic, but the newer "High School Reunion Collection" is Anamorphic.

With "Pulp Fiction", the original release is non-Anamorphic, but the newer CE/LE are Anamorphic.

What´s "just scan"-mode anyway? No overscan, or..?

Yes. The set must be a Samsung because mine has that setting too. It's for no overscan.
post #720 of 793

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Sadly, with all it's great DVD upscaling, the PS3 won't convert a 4x3 lbxed DVD to 16x9 like my old Panny RP91 did. Hopefully a future firmware update will change that.
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