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post #31 of 188
11/16/06 at 1:45pm

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Originally Posted by Derek_J
I just watched it. Try from here: http://abc.go.com/primetime/daybreak/index.html
Nope, that just gives me a commercial, then a teaser, not the actual episode.
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post #32 of 188
11/16/06 at 4:04pm

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I enjoyed it quite a lot. It will be ok if they actually plan to resolve it at the end. Unlike Groundhog Day, they should explain WHY the day is repeating. "The X-Files" had Mulder expounding several theories in the episode "Monday" (a great ep by the way) but they didn't really answer why either.

Let's see if Day Break takes the punt, too.
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post #33 of 188
11/16/06 at 4:12pm

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> the "repeating the same day over and over" gag

The great thing is they only have to shoot one episode.
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post #34 of 188
11/16/06 at 4:14pm

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Originally Posted by Qui-Gon John
Nope, that just gives me a commercial, then a teaser, not the actual episode.
http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing
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post #35 of 188
11/16/06 at 11:56pm

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what happened in the 'last' day that the cops didn't know about the gun?
They probably knew, they just didn't get a chance to ask the suspect about it.

on the last day, the cops didn't know about the gun - Taye Diggs said something like "is THAT how you planted the gun?" and the cop said "what gun"... so Diggs probably did something that resulted in the "syndicate" not planting the gun. in hindsight, there was a scene where the guys in the cars following Diggs on the highway said something like "we're past the point of framing him" or something to that effect.

anyways, i'm wondering if the show will even attempt to explain the ~why/how~ of the repeating phenomenon; they didn't bother in Groundhog Day.

i like the twist of Digg's body not resetting with everything else, though it probably is a device to stop him from going Wolverine on everything and just attempting life-ending stunts to get info and find more stuff out. (remember on Groundhog Day, Bill Murray did crazy stuff, not caring if he died).
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post #36 of 188
11/17/06 at 5:28am

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Finally got to see it on the web, but it kept freezing a lot. Will make sure to record it when it airs, here on out. ABC.com's streaming seems pretty crappy. I have been watching Kidnapped from NBC.com and never had problems like this.

Good start, like the series so far. Still unable to figure out what he can do in the first couple of hours of each 'day' to really turn things around. It seems like by the night before, things were to set in motion for him to do much to change it.
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post #37 of 188
11/17/06 at 10:35am

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Originally Posted by EricW
on the last day, the cops didn't know about the gun - Taye Diggs said something like "is THAT how you planted the gun?" and the cop said "what gun"... so Diggs probably did something that resulted in the "syndicate" not planting the gun. ...
I interpreted it as meaning the gun had been planted, but the police were simply surprised that Taye would incriminate himself. Like on detective shows where the baddie says something that only they or the police would know, before it has otherwise been mentioned.

As far as the ABC streaming goes, before it would freeze and not recover. So they have improved it somewhat.
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post #38 of 188
11/20/06 at 6:01am

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Great show! Groundhog day has always been one of my favorite movies, and this incorporated the concept very well.

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Originally Posted by EricW

anyways, i'm wondering if the show will even attempt to explain the ~why/how~ of the repeating phenomenon; they didn't bother in Groundhog Day.

I'm not sure of the how, but I think the "why" was explained best by the little boy playing "Jenga":

Boy: "What happens if I pull the wrong block and it falls down?"
Woman: "We start the game over"
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post #39 of 188
11/21/06 at 6:18am

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New episode tomorrow or are they skipping this week?
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post #40 of 188
11/21/06 at 6:51am

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According to tv.yahoo.com it'll be a new episode.
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post #41 of 188
11/22/06 at 10:30am

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Originally Posted by EricW
i like the twist of Digg's body not resetting with everything else, though it probably is a device to stop him from going Wolverine on everything and just attempting life-ending stunts to get info and find more stuff out. (remember on Groundhog Day, Bill Murray did crazy stuff, not caring if he died).

That is a good twist on the whole thing, though by spending a good portion of the final day in the second hour in the hospital, he was able to heal a bit. If it wasn't for his body continuing every day, I'd be thinking that he is just in an Infocom computer game.

I also thought that we'd only learn things from his perspective, but we've learned a few things that he doesn't know (yet) - such as the partial reveal at the end of the second hour - that Shelten (Adam Baldwin) knows one of the guys framing Hopper. Though from other comments by him, it appears he isn't in on the frame.

In Groundhog Day he had to get the timing right to fix practically everything that went wrong on that day. It appears that Hopper might need to do something along those lines as well. He made the comment about the person hit by the bus that he'd have to do something about that next time. There are lots of options and many different directions to as it unwinds. I don't think we'll learn why he relives each day and if that it left a mystery, I won't mind. I do think we should and will learn all about the framing and all those connections.

Neil
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post #42 of 188
11/22/06 at 10:52am

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How much can you heal in a day from a gunshot wound?

Infocom? You reveal your age.
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post #43 of 188
11/23/06 at 10:17am

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
How much can you heal in a day from a gunshot wound?

It looks like they are showing that you can only heal just so much as he was still quite injured from the wound the following "day." So, as long as he doesn't get shot again soon he will eventually heal from that wound.

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
Infocom? You reveal your age.

I have no problem with that.

The whole way it is playing out does remind me of one those games. I think the show is working out quite interestingly, giving a new perspective from episode to episode.

The filming of the series really must have a continuity person keeping an eye on things even more closely that in 24.

Neil
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post #44 of 188
11/23/06 at 3:13pm

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The filming of the series really must have a continuity person keeping an eye on things even more closely that in 24.


Though it is, of course, a lot easier to do after 3 episodes than after 5 seasons.

You awaken. You realize you're not in your bed. You realize you have a healing, but still fresh, gunshot wound to your front shoulder that is covered with mostly dry blood. You remember you've lived this day before. You'll be framed for a murder you didn't commit. Nobody else remembers the previous incarnations of this day but you. You have chances, but if you die, you die.

>
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post #45 of 188
11/23/06 at 11:23pm

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...i did NOT think the ratings would be so low:

"In its second week as a replacement for Lost, ABC's Day Break appeared truly broken Wednesday night, as it drew a meager 3.4 rating and a 6 share in the 9:00 p.m. hour. By contrast, CBS's Criminal Minds, which had been running neck-and-neck with Lost all season and had managed to take a narrow lead before Lost's current hiatus, dominated the hour with a 10.3/17. "
(imdb.com)

i hope they do end up airing all 13 episodes.
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post #46 of 188
11/24/06 at 12:22am

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Originally Posted by EricW
...i did NOT think the ratings would be so low:

"In its second week as a replacement for Lost, ABC's Day Break appeared truly broken Wednesday night, as it drew a meager 3.4 rating and a 6 share in the 9:00 p.m. hour. By contrast, CBS's Criminal Minds, which had been running neck-and-neck with Lost all season and had managed to take a narrow lead before Lost's current hiatus, dominated the hour with a 10.3/17. "
(imdb.com)

i hope they do end up airing all 13 episodes.

Well what did you expect? A black actor as the lead in a non-ensemble drama/action series...I'm not surprised. I applaud ABC for taking a chance, and I hope they do stick with it till the end.

It just took a major dive in the ratings this past week, and unfortunately I don't see it getting any better. The fact of the matter is, ABC could cancel the show next week and throw Desperate Housewives reruns in its place and it would probably get higher ratings.
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post #47 of 188
11/24/06 at 7:49am

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Originally Posted by EricW
I hope they do end up airing all 13 episodes.

I second that, especially since ABC's streaming sux!
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post #48 of 188
11/24/06 at 2:43pm

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Great show so far, but it doesn't really sit well with me that we've been given this intriguing new crime drama and it's only intended to "do for now" until Lost comes back.

As someone who doesn't care for Lost i'll take this show over that one.
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post #49 of 188
11/24/06 at 8:56pm

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Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
Great show so far, but it doesn't really sit well with me that we've been given this intriguing new crime drama and it's only intended to "do for now" until Lost comes back.

As someone who doesn't care for Lost i'll take this show over that one.

you can bet your derriere that ABC would've found a way to extend it if the ratings had been good, but at this point, getting all the episodes aired would be a big accomplishment.

We're down to 5 million viewers and it is only the second week..It could get real ugly in the coming weeks -- I'm thinking in the 2-3 million range if things really go south.
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post #50 of 188
11/25/06 at 2:06am

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Uh, everyone worried about the ratings seems to forget what day the episode aired. It was the night before Thanksgiving, a time when many people were on their way to visit with their families or already there. I'd say don't worry much yet, and wait to see the ratings next week.
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post #51 of 188
11/25/06 at 4:22am

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Originally Posted by Joe_H
Uh, everyone worried about the ratings seems to forget what day the episode aired. It was the night before Thanksgiving, a time when many people were on their way to visit with their families or already there. I'd say don't worry much yet, and wait to see the ratings next week.

Very true and hopefully they will keep that in mind when considering the shows fate. What you said, and that is considered the biggest travel day of the year.
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post #52 of 188
11/25/06 at 6:11am

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It's a bit sad for me if this show is doing worse than reruns of some of the more popular shows would. I've been a proponent of skipping reruns and giving some original content a chance where reruns would go. While I'm not ready to abandon the concept based on the performance of this one show, it does provide a chance to look at the situation. If reruns of Lost would get anywhere near the ratings of Daybreak, it'd be a windfall for ABC to rerun Lost since the money is essentially already paid for the episodes. Any advertising dollars would be gravy. Thus, it seems the financial incentive is on reruns, not original content. At least not unless the original content can perform better than the reruns would.
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post #53 of 188
11/25/06 at 4:01pm

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Uh, everyone worried about the ratings seems to forget what day the episode aired. It was the night before Thanksgiving, a time when many people were on their way to visit with their families or already there. I'd say don't worry much yet, and wait to see the ratings next week.

yes, but remember the Criminal Minds fans still turned up in droves.

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Great show so far, but it doesn't really sit well with me that we've been given this intriguing new crime drama and it's only intended to "do for now" until Lost comes back.

sometimes stories are meant to be short. you don't want an arc to over-extend itself simply because it was more successful than anticipated, and for it to be stretched out. see how many stupid movie sequels there are. if it's meant to be 13 episodes, then it should stick to 13 episodes.
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post #54 of 188
11/25/06 at 4:38pm

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Originally Posted by Mikah Cerucco
The filming of the series really must have a continuity person keeping an eye on things even more closely that in 24.


Though it is, of course, a lot easier to do after 3 episodes than after 5 seasons.

You awaken. You realize you're not in your bed. You realize you have a healing, but still fresh, gunshot wound to your front shoulder that is covered with mostly dry blood. You remember you've lived this day before. You'll be framed for a murder you didn't commit. Nobody else remembers the previous incarnations of this day but you. You have chances, but if you die, you die.

>

Actually, it is different continuity that I am talking about. In Daybreak all the characters, their outfits, their makeup, everything needs to look the same each and every episode until something is changed by the actions of Hopper. In 24, things need to gradually change hour by hour. When I saw Penny Johnson Jerald at a convention I asked her how they kept things consistent and she said there was an actual "continuity person" who tried to keep those things straight.

Neil
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post #55 of 188
11/25/06 at 6:13pm

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Yeah, the continuity person takes a lot of polaroids on the set for reference later to make sure scenes jointed together later also blend in well. They also have crib sheets of character props to deal with (cut on nose, bandage, etc) depending the scene being shot in relation to the script being filmed.
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post #56 of 188
11/25/06 at 10:04pm

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Originally Posted by EricW
yes, but remember the Criminal Minds fans still turned up in droves.

Yes, but a brand new show liked this needs to get an audience, and having the second episode on a travel day like that will hurt it a lot more than a show that has been around for a while and already has a loyal fan base.
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post #57 of 188
12/6/06 at 9:52pm

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man these forums really are dead..

There's a lot more activity at AVS.

Anyway, the show has been canceled and will be pulled at the end of december for abc comedies, which will take over starting jan. 3rd. I'm guessing we'll have to watch the rest on abc's crappy online player as opposed to HDTV.

It's amazing that they find a way to kill a 13 episode limited run series.
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post #58 of 188
12/7/06 at 4:42am

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How f'n lame!!!!

Why not just show the full 13 episodes, keep it a limited run and be done with it.

I have never been so ticked at the networks as I have this year.

Kidnapped & Daybreak and probably others I'm forgetting.
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post #59 of 188
12/7/06 at 2:33pm

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Anyone have a source for this info?
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post #60 of 188
12/7/06 at 2:36pm

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http://www.azcentral.com/ent/tv/arti...break1207.html
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