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The ABC site is now saying the finale will go live on Tuesday the 27th.

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ABC changed their site again, Wednesday the 28th now.

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Still not there...wtf

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Frackin' ABC, what morons. Why are they dragging out posting the last episodes of a series they didn't care enough about to keep on the air, in any time slot, at all.

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I've been busy the last few days, so on my tivo, unwatched, are this week's 24, Black Donnellys, Friday Night Lights and Lost. The show I am most waiting to see? FNL. But Daybreak is a close second. Damn you ABC!

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I was just reading another forum which explained the delay. When ABC decided to take it off the air, the video for the episodes was all done, but they decided to lower the budget for music. That is why there was the delay for a few weeks before the newer episodes originally went on. As for the finale, supposedly a Johnny Cash song was supposed to be in it, but ABC didn't want to pay for that, so at the last minute they had to re- mix in another song. Apparently the new song has been inserted, so the episode is awaiting approval and it will be a few more days. I'd imagine they'd just wait until Monday to post it.

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Morons! Why didn't they just take care of that when they were dealing with the music issues to begin with.

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Someone commented that when they were dealing with the first set of music issues, these last few episodes were probably still in post-production.

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Imagine my surprise when I went to check the ABC site on a whim, and the finale is finally online.

Of course it was pretty funny that the "this episode of.... is presented with limited commercials by..." said Desperate Housewives, and not Day Break, but I can forgive them for that.

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Great finale too, they definitely should have kept this on the air.

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just a thought - didn't crazy long hair guy start repeating before Hopper did? i mean unless his hair was long before it started happening... it seems like crazy guy started repeating before Hopper. if Hopper was the cause of the repeating, that doesn't make much sense. i know the writers didn't explain much, but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't put alot of thought into it.

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I am not reading this thread until I'm done with the online eps, but just wanted to say that I was a huge Day Break fan, and just got around to watching episode 7...WOW! The show has me on the edge of my seat. I can't believe it got cancelled, though realistically, I doubt I'd be interested in multiple seasons of this show. But still, it's sad it got canned. What a gripping, well written show. Taye Diggs is great in the role.

Can't wait to come back here when I've watched all the episodes and see what people thought.

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I think most folks would have been OK with not bringing it back. What felt like a letdown was canceling a show that was only due to run 13 episodes anyway. Still, money talks and low ratings walks. Apparently there just weren't enough people watching the show to justify airing it (even though all the episodes were completed).

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With the 13 episodes only concept, they shoulda just aired it all. End of story. ABC screwed the pooch over this one!

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OK guys, I know I'm late to the party, but these are my thoughts...

Just finished watching the entire series. WOW, what a huge, deep conspiracy.

Somewhat felt let down by the finale--almost felt it should've been two hours. I think I would've liked to have seen a bigger show-down between Brett and someone else other than his uncle.

Still a little confused about Jared at the end...and actually was curious as to why he didn't show up after Hopper dropped him off at the guy's house who did Jared's surgery. I still can't quite understand what Jared, clean cut and in a suit, represents.

Loved, though, seeing Hopper taking Rita to Vegas and then Mexico...over and over again, to just try and get away from it all. Can't say I wouldn't have attempted the same thing, especially after failing to foil the repeating cycle. Nice to see him bet on the Dodgers game.

Very well written show. I can't imagine how much hard work must have went into it--everything from crafting the conspiracy to how Hopper approaches each day, etc. Incredible well writen and crafted. Loved how things that happened in ep 1 played a role later on. Was shocked that Margo was involved. This was a very well thought out and planned show, from start to finish. It is everything that "24" should be, as far as writing/story goes.

Lastly, I suppose I can see why some would want a conclusion/reason why the day was repeating. For me, I never cared actually. Ever. I guess it's just one of "those things." I like how you can personally take away different things. For me, it reminded me of my lucid dreams. Sometimes in dreams, I am aware that I am actually dreaming. So I will say and do things knowing, truly, that it won't matter in the long run. This whole situation isn't "real." I've even tried convincing people of the fact that they are, in a sense, alive only in this dream. And of course, like Hopper, people look at you crazy.

I'm not saying at all this was a dream. I think it was just one of those things that happens and obviously a vehicle to drive a very interesting concept and plot. But I like how each viewer can take something different away from the concept of the show.

Lastly, a question to you all...on the last episode, there is a re-cap of what happened in the episode prior. At the very end of the re-cap, Hopper states something like, "And today is the day I end it." And then there is a very quick shot of Spivak pointing a gun at Hopper inside of what appeared to be a subway station...? Thats what it looked like very briefly. Oddly enough, in the episode it's re-capping, this scene/shot never occured. So was this a scene that was cut from the previous episode? Was this a shot/scene from an older episode? Or am I missing something?

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I finally watched the final episode. That was a great series. I think there must have been more to Jared and the repeating than we know. What Hopper did that one day working with Jared must have stopped Jared's repeating and the two must have been linked more somehow. I guess if they had gone to another season we might have found out more about what the repeating was all about.

I had forgotten about the Dodgers game and was thinking that he would just bet on something one day and if he made a mistake he would come back and bet the other way on the repeat. Doing the Dodgers game from way back in earlier episodes was much better.


That was quite a surprise. Everything was connected. I was unsure about her final fate, though. She wasn't at the place they first took her. Did she get released eventually?
I'm pretty sure it was from an earlier episode. I think it was just used there to reinforce that Hopper suspected Spivak at the beginning of this day.

Neil

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^^Nice to know someone else enjoyed it too.

What are your thoughts on why it failed?

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Not as many people wanted to watch a serialized show as ABC hoped would watch.

Most new serialized shows failed this season. Of the new ones, I believe only Heroes and Jericho have done well. Vanished did very poorly in the ratings and then when they had it online they showed the rest of the 13 finished episodes, but it really just ended without any sort of conclusion - a great disappointment. Kidnapped had similar luck on the air, but at least at the end of the 13th episodes shown online there was a satisfying conclusion to what we saw. I don't know what kind of audience ABC expected for Day Break, but obviously they didn't get it. The weeks they started to air it were not the best for a new show.

Looking at what is on television these days, I am not all that surprised that that there was not that much of an audience for Day Break. I think the show required a greater attention span than many other shows. There are so many details and events that were quickly mentioned in earlier episodes that had a much bigger impact than expected down the line. I think the show had a great payoff for the viewer, but it is unfortunate that not that many people will see it.

Neil

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main reason it failed -- black lead actor.

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Just finished watching all episodes online. I agree guys, this was a great series. Very rivetting and entertaining. So what if you have to pay a little more attention. I don't understand why this show didn't find an audience.

This is how a serialized show is supposed to be done. Sit down in the writers room and work out every single detail. No episode felt like filler material. Every "day" had a specific purpose and they did it in a great way so that us, the audience, found out all the details at the same time as Hopper did. Great way to pull us along for the ride.

Still, there were a couple of things that bugged me about the finale. For once, Chad seemed to get away. The supposed top dog, the lawyer, was not brought down along with his people. And the one thing that annoyed me the most: it was never explained why Hopper kept re-living that day over and over!

To me, that's a very important aspect of the show and it kept playing in the back of my head after watching every single episode: How are they going to explain the groundhog day effect. And it wasn't. They just show Jared all clean cut at the end but without even a small hint as to why that could've been happening. That part was dissapointing.

But in any case, a very well done show with great suspense, drama, action and superb acting by all involved.

PS: Never seen her before in anything else but Rita is a hottie!

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Based on the FAQs on the website http://abc.go.com/primetime/daybreak/faq.html
I didn't expect to find out the why of the groundhog day effect this time. If it had done well enough for there to be another series with someone else reliving a day, then I would have expected that to be explained there. From the about page I would guess we would need to contact one of them to find out or perhaps if it gets released on DVD they'll explain more there.

Neil

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The question of how/why has been discussed somewhat in this thread and I'm of the opinion that I'm not so sure anybody involved had a strong handle on the why and/or how. I'm not saying they wouldn't have come up with something if the show became popular and ran, but I'm just not so sure that was ever part of the initial pitch. I can completely see them saying, "The why/how doesn't matter... the point is, this guy keeps repeating the same day trying to solve a mystery. What he learns one day carries over to the next, so he can try different things. Anything that happens to him physically also carries over. It's a race against time (the end of the day) for a guy who seemingly has all the time in the world."

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It was already discussed in this thread, but I was in the camp that wasn't looking for an explanation of why the day kept repeating. What kind of explanation would it be? Nothing could ever scientifically explain it and you'd be left dissatisfied. It was fine for me that they didn't address it and just let the day conclude when he solved the case.

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they actually kind-of did address it when the days stopped repeating when Hopper got whacked in the head. so instead of not-saying-how-the-days-repeated, they ~implied~ it had something to do with Hopper's state of consciousness. that's what kind of throws me off.

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I agree that it would've been tough to explain the effect but still, it would've been nice to me, personally. We all have different tastes though.

A few ideas ran through my mind. Maybe a supernatural explanation like his father doing this to Hopper so that he could solve the father's murder? But the show had nothing supernatural about it so that would've been a little weird to throw in.

Or how about a scientific experiment ran by a group who wanted to take down Booth and his minions? But then again, if this group was powerful enough to run such an experiment, they should be also powerful enough to take down the crooked group right?

I can see why the writers may have had a tough time coming up with an explanation.

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I may have mentioned it before, but I'm really glad they didn't explain why it was happening over and over to Hopper. No explanation would have been satisfactory to us, in my opinion. I like the fact that we were in the same mindset of Hopper...as we the audience are thinking, "What in the WORLD is going on here?" But the lack of knowledge and inability to grasp something that was happening to him, that was much bigger than himself (conspiracy and the day repeating), was part of the strong appeal of the show for me.