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post #241 of 487
4/11/07 at 11:15am

Re: Superman Returns Sequel discussion thread

And not to mention that in that rumor they say he is up for a role in the upcoming sequel, not the superman role. Routh is still playing. So, criticizing him just because he is up for a secondary role which we have no idea what it might be, makes no sense.
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post #242 of 487
4/11/07 at 12:10pm

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Not having seen Kingdom of Heaven I only have the Lord of the Rings and Pirates of the Caribbean films to go on, but given that I think Bloom is a fine actor, I have no problem with him being in the sequel, either.
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post #243 of 487
4/11/07 at 12:51pm

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Bloom was the worse actor in LOTR. While in fairness at lot of his lines fare much better on a page than on the lips of any living being ("the stars are veiled... something stirs in the east..."), I felt the actor's "I am saying something very profound" delivery didn't help either.

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post #244 of 487
4/11/07 at 1:49pm

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That's the thing. Bloom is interchangeable in any film role. He's the same in Lord of the Rings as he is in Pirates of the Caribbean as he is in Kingdom of Heaven. Same pitch... same delivery... same tone... every line...every movie.

That said... playing a villain in the new Superman movie could give him coverage as he's never played a villain before. Let's just hope he tries something different.
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post #245 of 487
4/12/07 at 4:06am

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could it be that they want bloom for the new tom cruise movie and not superman?

Jacob
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post #246 of 487
4/12/07 at 12:10pm

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What if Bloom winds up playing Brainiac?
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post #247 of 487
4/14/07 at 2:47pm

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun
What if Bloom winds up playing Brainiac?

I just threw up a little in my mouth.


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post #248 of 487
4/14/07 at 3:43pm

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Well, he's no worse than Spike playing Braniac.
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post #249 of 487
4/16/07 at 8:18am

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Someone created this on another forum. Its one of the best manips I have seen. Just reaffirms to me that Welling would have made a better Supes.

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post #250 of 487
4/16/07 at 8:45am

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Originally Posted by todd s
Someone created this on another forum. Its one of the best manips I have seen. Just reaffirms to me that Welling would have made a better Supes.

Never mind that Welling has the voice of a 12 year old.

Guess this will never end, huh?
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post #251 of 487
4/16/07 at 1:02pm

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Originally Posted by Bryan Ri
Guess this will never end, huh?
Not as long as todd s still walks the earth.
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post #252 of 487
4/16/07 at 3:05pm

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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt
Not as long as todd s still walks the earth.

Cue...Sinister evil guy laugh.
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post #253 of 487
4/16/07 at 3:27pm

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Originally Posted by todd s
Someone created this on another forum. Its one of the best manips I have seen. Just reaffirms to me that Welling would have made a better Supes.


How someone looks in the suit is a lot different from how someone acts in the suit.

Some folks have big screen presence. Some are more "suited" to television.

Singer & WB made the right choices for each.
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post #254 of 487
4/16/07 at 4:10pm

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^^^ I agree.
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post #255 of 487
4/17/07 at 12:04pm

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Peter, I actually had no problem with any of Singers choices for actors, even Routh. I just had a big problem with the story(ie-following to close to Donners, the kid and Lex being a criminal). But, we discussed that before.

I only brought this up. Since its the first manip I have seen that actually looks like its a real pic.
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post #256 of 487
4/23/07 at 7:52am

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Someone on posted this trailer on youtube. Its a fan-made Superman one with Welling. But, whats neat was this guys ability to edit not just footage but, change and add things to actors. Not bad for a non-profession.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIFvrV4VP4
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post #257 of 487
4/23/07 at 2:22pm

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[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIFvrV4VP4[/MEDIA]

that guy is very good.
he made a bunch of spider-man trailers last year with venom and hobgoblin in them.
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post #258 of 487
4/23/07 at 2:38pm

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the only one i didnt figure out were it came from was the zod, what was that from
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post #259 of 487
4/23/07 at 3:39pm

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It's the adventures of Superboy!
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post #260 of 487
4/23/07 at 3:47pm

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Originally Posted by Adam Lenhardt
It's the adventures of Superboy!
I had the same feeling!
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post #261 of 487
4/23/07 at 7:18pm

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I am so untalented.

How unbelievably painstaking it must have been to put Welling's head onto Chris' body on MOVING video footage!? And people on the net do that kind of thing for fun!

I am so untalented.
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post #262 of 487
4/23/07 at 9:04pm

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Originally Posted by Bryan Ri
Never mind that Welling has the voice of a 12 year old.

Guess this will never end, huh?
His voice seems pretty deep for a 12 year old.

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How someone looks in the suit is a lot different from how someone acts in the suit.

Some folks have big screen presence. Some are more "suited" to television.

Singer & WB made the right choices for each.

Routh had little presence.
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post #263 of 487
4/23/07 at 9:44pm

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Again I ask (no one seems willing to answer me on this), how does one know that Welling would have no presence as Supes when he's never played him before? Again he's being judged soley on his performance on Smallville (not counting The Fog remake which was just a mess all around and I don't place any blame on Welling in that, the guy had bad lines from a bad script) when he's specifically called to act the way he acts as Clark.

Your simply not willing to give Welling any credit for being a versatile actor and your relegating him to television. I'm telling you, if Welling were to hit the gym and invest himself 100% into the role, he could be the greatest Supes since Chris Reeve.

But we'll never know will we so this could go on forever, it's all opinion and speculation on our parts, some think Welling couldn't do a good job and some do, I think he could do it.

BTW, i've seen Superman Returns about 6 times now and while I love the film no one will ever convince me that Routh was more than just adequate as Supes, he had the right face but he looked too thin and angular at times, my dad commented as we were watching it that he thought that Routh looked too much like an android in certain shots, referring to his appearance, not his acting.
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post #264 of 487
4/24/07 at 9:04am

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Watching the vid Todd posted, I dont think Welling has the presence for Superman. I was sold on Routh when I saw him at the awards show with T Hatcher.
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post #265 of 487
4/24/07 at 9:17am

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Originally Posted by JonZ
Watching the vid Todd posted, I dont think Welling has the presence for Superman. I was sold on Routh when I saw him at the awards show with T Hatcher.

It's unwise to use that home-made vid as a definitive referrance of how Welling would do as Supes, that vid is a mish mash of Welling from different seasons where his face was skinnier and his hair was fuller, that photoshopped Smallville poster is more represenative of how he'd look as Supes today I think, with a stronger face and the proper hairstyle.
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post #266 of 487
4/24/07 at 11:30am

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If you want to see Welling with presence. Watch the episode this season where Lex comes to give Clark an invitation to his & Lana's wedding. He tries to intimidate Clark. Clark steps up and for one of the first times see him stare and speak him down.

From an earlier question. The Zod footage is Karl Urban from "Chronicles of Riddick".
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post #267 of 487
4/24/07 at 2:50pm

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Ah! Thanks for the spoiler!
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post #268 of 487
4/24/07 at 3:00pm

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what spoiler?
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post #269 of 487
4/25/07 at 4:19am

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The problem with casting for Superman is that the actor needs to fit three roles, the normal Clark, the nerdy Clark and Superman. I can't see Welling as bumbling, nerdy, bespectacled Clark Kent, the reporter. He's way too beefcake, his face too full and his appearance too youthful.

Nick from CSI would make an interesting Superman. In one of the earlier seasons, when he had his hair long, he looked slightly Clark-ish, minus the specs.
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post #270 of 487
4/25/07 at 7:37am

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector Hammer!
Again I ask (no one seems willing to answer me on this), how does one know that Welling would have no presence as Supes when he's never played him before?

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Your simply not willing to give Welling any credit for being a versatile actor and your relegating him to television. I'm telling you, if Welling were to hit the gym and invest himself 100% into the role, he could be the greatest Supes since Chris Reeve.
It's his physicality. He's got the body for Superman, but not the face. His features -- eyes, mouth, etc. -- are just too large to make a sufficiently manly Superman.
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