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I'll bet none of you can guess, never ever guess, what happened at UFC 76.

I'll give you a hint, if you pay attention to my writing, this will sdecode it. They were in California.

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Ok Andres, the quote is making its way around the 'net now, so I'm ready to spoil it.

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Unfortunately, we were cut off shortly after that point.
Check out the site today I've already put up some IFL news, and the updated card for UFC 78 and the replacement for Marvin Eastman at UFC 77 with more to come I'm sure.

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Andres, Daniel is right. It will never happen. It may not be because Angle has no balls, but he talks a big game but won't deliver in the end. The sooner people realize how full of it Angle is, the sooner they'll quit asking him about it and the sooner that happens the happier I will be.


Hey, did you guys know that MMA is legalized dog fighting?

Yes, I had fun writing that piece if it doesn't show.

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Bob Arum over inflates the importance of Kelly Pavlik's victory by saying it is a big blow to the UFC

This is not a link to my site though I did touch on this. Bob Arum has 0 clue when it comes to the UFC but it is nice to see that's not enough to keep him from talking about it.

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Another bout added to UFC 78

I tell you, from a star or big name standpoint, this show is lacking, but from a great fight potential this could be one of the best in ages.

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If I had the chance to go, I'd go but then that's me. We are however trying to get press credentials for the event.

It really isn't strange that UFC 78 doesn't have a title match. The Welterweight title will be defended in December, the Middleweight is defended this month. Rampage is nursing a hand injury so that takes the Light Heavyweight title out of play. There isn't a heavyweight challenger worth granting a shot in November and the Lightweight title will not be resolved until later this month and if Sherk is stripped (and it is almost a guarantee he will be) then it is BJ Penn Vs. Joe Stevenson in December.

This year, UFC 67, 70, 72 and 76 went without title fights, though 67 was because Travis Lutter couldn't make weight.

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The Ultimate Fighter 6 Finale has a main event

And quite the main event it is. It could go a long way to determining a future contender for the Lightweight championship.

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Disappointing news for anyone hoping to see Emelianenko-Couture anytime soon

and honestly given how old Randy is, if we don't see it soon, we're not going to see it.

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I've been semi-watching this season of TUF. Matt Serra, whose team looks to be on a roll, may be a good coach but I find his personality grating. Hughes, on the other hand, seems like a nice guy though I don't know if he is doing that good a job as a coach.

How have ratings been for this season? I think expectations would be high given the star power involved. Is it meeting those expectations?

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No, its not because its becoming way too predictable. Every season is the same now, someone gets hurt, someone wants to go home.. and does.. they trash the house.. etc. This coupled with he fact that you can almost predict the outcome of a match based upon how much time is left in the show because they never deviate from the structure is making it hard to keep wanting to watch.

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The TUF ratings are hard to gage becuse while the ratings for the premier of a new episode have been in the 1.0 to 1.1 range, the ratings for the thursday replay are in the 0.6 range which means together they're doing about what was done for high-end rated episodes last season.

In bigger news than TUF Couture quits UFC

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Well, Liddell made $500,000 for his loss to Keith Jardine at UFC 76 and Randy made $250,000 for his win over Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC 74.

He says he knows what Fedor was offered and wanted more than that since he's the champ.

For guys like Cro Cop and Hughes, well...reported salaries for those guys are under what Couture makes though I'm thinking maybe Cro Cop's was higher but when you factor in hidden bonuses not reported by commission states it is possible that those other guys all make more than him.

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Yes Randy is, no the Rock is not.

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I have a question to which may seem obvious, but isn't to me. It isn't for Sam Caplan, though... it's for Casey. What do MMA fighters do when they don't have a contract for any particular organization? For instance, the guys on TUF are competing for a UFC contract. What do the losers do when they lose? They fight somewhere because you often hear about the records of the folks who are on the show. I'm just not aware of the "amateur" or "semi-pro" aspects of MMA.

I assume if I were a good wrestler and maybe also had some boxing skills (jui jitsu, etc.), I could try to get into a "school" like Randy Couture's place and expand my skills. At some point, I'd get a fight. What/where would that fight be? I'm just curious how that all works out.

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Mikah, there are organizations all over the place that you could fight professionally for.

Among the one's I can think of off the top of my head: Extreme Cahllenge North East, King of the Cage, Gladiator Challenge, Ring of Fire, Ring Wars, United Fight League, HOOKnSHOOT, Rumble on the Rock, Icon Sport, and just on and on and on. I didn't even scratch the surface there, and that doesn't include the guys who think they can promote a card and try it once as a one-off and find out that it costs some $$$ and then never book a second show.

What you would do is find a school and really you could walk in with none of the skills you mentioned and get in at any number of schools, though for a place like Xtreme Couture you'd better have money.
Then you'd either have a manager, or do it yourself, but whatever you did, you would fight, and fight a lot.
Outside of the UFC it wouldn't really be that uncommon for you to fight several times in a short amount of time. You could fight pretty much every weekend as long as your healthy. There's also a greater shift in your weight class. You could fight one week as a welterweight and come back a couple of weeks later as a middleweight.
Because there is so many organizations, there is a need for fighters so there is plenty of work to be had but it doesn't pay great which is why you need to fight more. That's also how a guy like Randy Couture can have a record of 16-8-0 over a decade of fighting while a guy like Joe Stevenson can come in to the UFC with over 30 career wins.
Even on TUF you can have a guy like a Mac Danzig who has fights in KOTC and even one in Pride earlier this year and in the same house a guy like Corey Hill who has 0 pro fights. The winner of TUF gets a 6-figure contract and any of the one's they really end up liking get the standard 3-fight UFC deals and some of the lesser guys have their fight on the TUF Finale and that's it.

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Couture, Fedor, Ricardo Arona, M-1 and UFC

Randy Couture has gone to great effort to stress that he has left UFC but not retired from MMA.
This tells me he still wants to fight and he still wants to fight Fedor and is willing to do what he can to make it happen.

Edit: is Jake Shields UFC bound?

Shields is easily the best welterweight not under contract to Zuffa in either the UFC or the WEC.