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post #91 of 184
5/29/07 at 10:40am
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Re: Where is Mary Tyler Moore Season 5?

American Life TV has bought the entire MTM catalogue and will begin showing all series beginning in June and July. According to another board they do not edit the shows. Get your DVD recorder ready! I already have Seasons 5 and 6 unedited from TVLand in Canada, but not Season 7. Let's hope it is truly unedited.
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post #92 of 184
5/29/07 at 1:20pm

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How do you get that channel? Is it on any major satellite or cable carriers?
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post #93 of 184
5/29/07 at 2:51pm

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AmericanLife is available on Time Warner Cable, at least where I live.

I suppose it will be a little while before we actually see season 5 if they're showing it twice a week. Can't wait to see if they are unedited, though. If so I'll definitely be recording these shows once they get to the unreleased-on-DVD episodes.
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post #94 of 184
5/29/07 at 5:11pm

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Is that a commercial-free channel? Otherwise, if they're unedited, they'll be sped up, and wow, do I hate that!
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post #95 of 184
5/29/07 at 6:13pm

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
Is that a commercial-free channel? Otherwise, if they're unedited, they'll be sped up, and wow, do I hate that!

Not necessarily. They had commercials when they first aired, after all. Old shows in reruns are cut or sped up for two reasons:

1) Even for first-run shows there are more commercials per hour now then there were when years ago.

2) Most 2nd run cable and local broadcast channels buy reruns to maximize their ratings and profits. This means slipping in some extra commercials even for newer shows.

But smaller, newer cable channels tend not to sell as much ad time, and this, ironically, can let them air shows at full length without trimming or speeding them up. (Discovery HD has often runs filler between shows because they don't sell enough ad time.)

Regards,

Joe
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post #96 of 184
5/29/07 at 6:14pm

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I have American Life. They have commercials and at least some of the shows they currently air are edited and/or timesped. This is the channel that used to be called "Goodlife".

From what I understand, they did not "buy" the MTM catalog; rather they just made a deal with Fox to air certain shows. They are also going to start airing Batman.

Steve
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post #97 of 184
5/29/07 at 7:21pm

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I have American Life.

Steve, I can't tell you how jealous I am of you right now! I'd give anything to have American Life. It's got to be the best channel for classic WB detective series. I'd love to have a shot a taping some of those, because we will likely never see them on dvd or on another channel. My dvd recorder would be working overtime between that channel and TCM.

Gary "Direct TV has just about everything under the sun except American Life - arghhh!!!" O.
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post #98 of 184
5/29/07 at 10:11pm

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We actually have a channel like that in the Chicago area. It's called METV. They have classic shows on there and on Sat and Sun. nights they run a block of All in the Family, MTM & Bob Newhart. Hopefully a channel like this will catch on in other areas as well.

Charlie

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I'd take Phylis as well but want Rhoda more. I do not see how things are not relevant today in these things, Ted Baxter is timeless, my local news has a few. The comedy is still funny and the fashion is superior to our time. I think lack of TV airtime in recent years is a problem here, possibly based upon some faulty nielsen repeat ratings which probably influence the amount of in store display these series receive as well. I blame TVLand for some problems we are having with classic television exposure and expect that station to stop showing anything older than Cosby aside from MASH in the coming year. What we need for TV is a TCM spinoff devoted to classic television. This station could properly support these shows, reintroducing them to modern audiences, putting them into context and perhaps some reminders of DVD releases for these series. I am so annoyed by the lack of promotion I find for classic TV series on DVD on TV and now all I see is War at Home DVD ads, that show is being pushed too much on DVD while better shows are being neglected in advertising.
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post #99 of 184
5/29/07 at 10:31pm

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I'm also jealous of those of you who have AmericanLife. I would LOVE to see TMTMS uncut, especially some Season 7 episodes, as I feel those were the best of the series. I'm seriously considering finding someone to tape them for me. Who knows, maybe by the time they get to S7, I'll get the channel, or we'll at least have more seasons on DVD! (What can I say, I'm an optimist! hehe)

- Kristen
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post #100 of 184
5/29/07 at 10:44pm

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American Life (AKA Goodlife) is a great litte network, I taped a real gem off this channel a few years ago.... the Leslie Uggams show, compelte with all the musical numbers and everything. I NEVER thought I'd see that show, but sure enough, there it was!
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post #101 of 184
5/29/07 at 10:49pm

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Originally Posted by Charlie Kaus
We actually have a channel like that in the Chicago area. It's called METV. They have classic shows on there and on Sat and Sun. nights they run a block of All in the Family, MTM & Bob Newhart.

Well, that's nice but all those shows are available on DVD at least partially. I'm thinking more of the classic 50's and 60's shows that American Life has on their schedule. I mean just look at these series:

The Courtship of Eddie's Father
Mayberry RFD
The Lone Wolf
The FBI
77 Sunset Strip
Bourbon Street Beat
Harry O
Hawaiian Eye
Surfside 6
Man From U.N.C.L.E.
Bronco
Cheyenne
Sugerfoot
Maverick
My Favorite Martian

As far as I know, only two of these shows have any season sets, and none of them are completed. To top it off I seriously doubt more than one or two of these will ever be shown again on a national network, and even that would be in some severely butchered way. Nope, this network may be our last chance at getting these series, because I'll be danged if the WB is going to release any of the ones they own! We all know better, don't we.

Gary "hopefully someone is archiving these great series - I know I'll never make the mistake of letting a classic series I love air on television without me preserving them on dvd" O.
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post #102 of 184
6/7/07 at 5:59am

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I am new here but found this forum when searching for info on MTM season 5 on dvd. What a great forum this is! I just have some various responses to a lot of the different posts.
1) It's funny how we have a sense of entitlement to a whole series once they start releasing seasons. But as others have said it's a business so if they don't sell well it makes sense to stop putting future seasons out. But dammit! I want seasons 5 6 and 7!
2) Maybe they should've released the series in reverse order, as this was one of the few shows that got better with age. In fact, I would suggest that those who had a good memory of the series and bought season one may have been let down and not bother with the rest. Season one, in my opinion, had very few laughs in it and had way too many dull episodes of Mary dating boring guys. Even season 2 was spotty but the show really became the show I remembered during season 3 and especially season 4.
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post #103 of 184
6/7/07 at 8:59am

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Maybe they should've released the series in reverse order, as this was one of the few shows that got better with age. In fact, I would suggest that those who had a good memory of the series and bought season one may have been let down and not bother with the rest. Season one, in my opinion, had very few laughs in it and had way too many dull episodes of Mary dating boring guys. Even season 2 was spotty but the show really became the show I remembered during season 3 and especially season 4.

I completely agree with this assessment. I think the two strongest seasons were 4 & 5.

I'm currently in the process of transferring my old video tapes of seasons 5-7 onto DVD-R's; season 5 is a real winner. I'm grateful that the two small boxed sets of commercial VHS tapes that I own are not copy protected, that gives me 9 uncut episodes from the last three seasons. The editing of the Nick@Nite and TVLand versions is appalling. An uncut episode runs approximately 26 min.; a Nick@Nite episode (after commercials) runs approximately 22 min., 30 sec.; and, a TVLand episode runs 22 min. on the dot. That's a lot of missing material!
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post #104 of 184
6/7/07 at 9:10am

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I completely agree with this assessment. I think the two strongest seasons were 4 & 5.

I'm currently in the process of transferring my old video tapes of seasons 5-7 onto DVD-R's; season 5 is a real winner. I'm grateful that the two small boxed sets of commercial VHS tapes that I own are not copy protected, that gives me 9 uncut episodes from the last three seasons. The editing of the Nick@Nite and TVLand versions is appalling. An uncut episode runs approximately 26 min.; a Nick@Nite episode (after commercials) runs approximately 22 min., 30 sec.; and, a TVLand episode runs 22 min. on the dot. That's a lot of missing material!


Not only are the edits appalling, but I remember a few years ago catching a lot of MTM episodes on Saturday mornings on TV Land and the picture and sound quality always looked like they were taped underwater!
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post #105 of 184
6/7/07 at 1:14pm

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jeffy3, I totally agree about releasing it in reverse order. And also that many casual buyers were probably very disappointed in S1. It really has only a couple of episodes to recommend it.

Hopefully, it will be licensed out to someone by Fox, and we'll see the remaining seasons one day.
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post #106 of 184
6/10/07 at 10:12pm

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Although, for me my favorite episode ever is "The Snow Must Go On" from season 1

Go figure!

But I do love the show better once Sue Ann shows up...
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post #107 of 184
6/10/07 at 10:16pm

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I don't think Season 1 was as bad as some of you make it out to be, but I do think the series got better every year. Maybe reverse order is not such a bad idea. It wouldn't really make much sense now, though. LOL
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post #108 of 184
6/11/07 at 10:24am

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Although, for me my favorite episode ever is "The Snow Must Go On" from season 1

Go figure!

But I do love the show better once Sue Ann shows up...

I love the snow episode....Chuckles the Clown announcing the winner of the election is PRICELESS!!!!
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post #109 of 184
6/27/07 at 10:52am
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The Mary Tyler Moore, Newhart, WKRP in Cincinatti and The Bob Newhart Show premiere on American Life TV this Monday. It appears that they are showing them in order. Let's see how they are edited or compressed.

I'm going to have to buy a DVD recorder for these. Any recommendations?

Thanks.
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post #110 of 184
6/27/07 at 12:09pm

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Also didn't help that Season 1 had a pretty high price when it first came out with the SRP of $50. You create sticker shock from the start, you don't get the same return action.
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post #111 of 184
6/27/07 at 3:36pm

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Panasonic makes great DVD recorders. I don't have American Life on my cable system but I remember them airing some series uncut.
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post #112 of 184
7/17/07 at 1:04am

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I really hope they release the last 3 seasons

As a UK fan of The Mary Tyler Moore Show,,there isn't much love for the show,,compared to say Happy Days,which has been repeated plenty of times.

Part of the Shows problem,,is in the UK,,when the show first started i believe the BBC aired about 2 seasons worth of episodes. Then when Channel 4 started in the early 80's they started showing the show from the beginning. But then again,,only aired about 2 series worth.

does anyone know of any UK satellite channels that have aired TMTMS,,,cos i have seen Rhoda occasionally on the Paramount comedy channel.
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post #113 of 184
7/17/07 at 3:52pm

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I believe that The Family Channel, which existed from 1993-97 in the UK started showing Mary Tyler Moore, but I don't know which episodes they showed, or how far they got before The Family Channel morphed into Challenge TV.
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post #114 of 184
7/17/07 at 5:12pm

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You do realize American Life is airing the shows only once a week. It'll be years before they run all the MTMs.
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post #115 of 184
8/20/07 at 9:38am

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Just bumping this up, wondering if anyone has heard any more news about a possible season 5. Fox said there wouldn't be a season 2... and then you see what happened. I'm just glad they fixed the color problems from season 2. In seasons 1 and 2, the color balance was off in the opening credits, Mary's name being a chartreuse color instead of the bright yellow/gold, and the blue of the background was faded. On another forum I belong to, one of the members worked on the DVD transfers of those, so I busted his chops about those opening credits, and he emailed me privately and said... "I just never thought anyone would notice". Just goes to show some of the problems of quality control on shows are just downright laziness.... and I noticed after I complained (and several other chimed in agreeing with me) then seasons 3 and 4 were fixed, and the opening looked as it should. Sometimes the squeaky wheel DOES get the grease.
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post #116 of 184
8/20/07 at 11:30am

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Hopefully MTM Season 5 and The Bob Newhart Show both see a Season 5 release.
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post #117 of 184
8/20/07 at 1:14pm

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What other high profile shows do Fox still have on the shelf? They've got one season of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea still on the shelf and then the Irwin Allen collection is done (although Lost In Space needs to be retransfered).

I'm just waiting for the next buy one get one free sale to pick up seasons 3 & 4 of Mary and Bob.
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post #118 of 184
8/20/07 at 1:20pm

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What other high profile shows do Fox still have on the shelf? They've got one season of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea still on the shelf and then the Irwin Allen collection is done (although Lost In Space needs to be retransfered).

The other high profile show that Fox has seemingly abandoned is "THE BIG VALLEY." That one is sitting out in no-man's land and needs to be picked up!

Gary "no question Fox has a number of classics in limbo at this point" O.
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post #119 of 184
8/20/07 at 8:03pm

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The other high profile show that Fox has seemingly abandoned is "THE BIG VALLEY." That one is sitting out in no-man's land and needs to be picked up!

Gary "no question Fox has a number of classics in limbo at this point" O.


I would say your best bet on that is to DVDR them off Encore Westerns and then if they ever put more out you can chuck the discs. But at least this way you know you'll have them.

Hank "I wish Encore would pick up more rare series to run" Dearborn
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post #120 of 184
8/20/07 at 8:24pm

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I would say your best bet on that is to DVDR them off Encore Westerns and then if they ever put more out you can chuck the discs. But at least this way you know you'll have them.

Hank "I wish Encore would pick up more rare series to run" Dearborn

Hank, get out of my mind!!!

LOL, that's exactly what I've been doing with THE BIG VALLEY. I've got all of Seasons 3 & 4 already, and will secure the remainder of Season 2 when it rolls around again in another month or so.

Gary "and I too wish Encore Westerns would pick up some more series - it's about the best bet we have for uncut, decent looking westerns" O.
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