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post #331 of 664
12/1/06 at 4:11pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Not yet David. When did you send in your card?

Dana
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post #332 of 664
12/2/06 at 10:40am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

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Originally Posted by David Allen
Has anyone received this email:

Dear Customer,

Thank you for your interest in the Blu-ray software upgrade offer for your model number DMP-BD10. This software release is not scheduled until April 2007. We have your address on file and will be sending it to you as soon as it becomes available.

Sincerely,

Panasonic Fulfillment Dept.


Yes, I got one last night.
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post #333 of 664
12/4/06 at 9:43am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

More confirmation it's happening at least. I know it will be a long 4 months for you guys though.

I wonder if it will coincide with a new hardware release or the new software will effectively make this player their 2nd gen model.
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post #334 of 664
12/4/06 at 11:47am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Does anyone know where one might send Panasonic some suggestions for possible features to add to the DMP-BD10 in the next firmware upgrade? I would like to suggest that they add a feature to display the video and audio codecs and the bitrates. Am I dreaming?
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post #335 of 664
12/5/06 at 3:28pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Was the film content
in 16:9 format
or 4:3 in a 1.88 to 1 wide screen ratio format (black bars at top and botom)
as if it is the second one, that will explain the black bars
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post #336 of 664
12/5/06 at 5:28pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Sorry if this has been covered allready but I just didn't want to comb through the entire thread. Has there been any news regaurding a second generation Panasonic Blu-ray yet? And if so what additional features will it have and what date will it be available?
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post #337 of 664
12/5/06 at 6:54pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Dave, this is the Panny BD10, not the Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD Player.

The good news to me is that Panasonic has committed itself to a significant firmware update for the BD10 now forecasted for April 2007. That says to me that it will support this player, not follow the Detroit auto annual new model ritual. Also, this is a global player and it's just barely getting into distribution in the UK.

And I think it is still in short supply here. And the reviews are just barely starting to be put out there.

Dana
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post #338 of 664
12/5/06 at 7:07pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

I am not really concerned with the availability yet. As I will not have the money saved until March or April for the player. I am really looking foward to picking the player up at that time and watching the movies I have allready purchased. So hopefully the upgrade will be available by the time I have the money to buy the player.
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post #339 of 664
12/5/06 at 7:20pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Right. I noticed your plans for a March 26, 2007 purchase. Good for you. (Although there is 12 months no interest no payments financing available at the moment from some authorized dealers.) The only mention of the supply situation is that I think Panasonic is still ramping up production of this player. It's a keeper for sure, and it's the best yet on the audio side I think.

Dana
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post #340 of 664
12/5/06 at 9:07pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

The performance (for me) has been nothing short of rock solid. I have 28 BR disks and no hiccups.
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post #341 of 664
12/6/06 at 8:26am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Neil,

is the upconversion of SD DVD material of the Panny first-rate in you opinion? With it's firmware updates on the way for advanced audio... I'm tempted... though I really don't have the money to spend more than for the 20 gig PS3!

dave
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post #342 of 664
12/6/06 at 8:45am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet
Neil,

is the upconversion of SD DVD material of the Panny first-rate in you opinion? With it's firmware updates on the way for advanced audio... I'm tempted... though I really don't have the money to spend more than for the 20 gig PS3!

dave

There's a review of the BD10 that discusses its performance as a SD DVD upconverting player here http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-b...0%20(Component)

The short of it is:

"Conclusions

"For standard definition DVD playback, the Panasonic DMP-BD10 is in a completely different league than the Samsung Blu-ray player. While it is not quite as good as what we’ve seen from Panasonic’s dedicated DVD platforms, it is good enough that I think most people would be more than happy using it for their SD DVDs as well as Blu-ray discs. While this is a more expensive option than the Samsung Blu-ray player, and represents the most expensive next generation player to date, it is the best I’ve seen from the Blu-ray camp so far. I will be covering its performance as a Blu-ray player (audio and video) in an upcoming full report."

Dana
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post #343 of 664
12/6/06 at 9:51am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

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Originally Posted by GoldenRedux
Does anyone know where one might send Panasonic some suggestions for possible features to add to the DMP-BD10 in the next firmware upgrade? I would like to suggest that they add a feature to display the video and audio codecs and the bitrates. Am I dreaming?

I'd like that too.
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post #344 of 664
12/6/06 at 1:14pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

If I could go to a local specialty shop right now and get the Panasonic and make payments I would in a heartbeat. But my credit sucks so I will have to just save up the cash for it, at least I will not pay the extra money in interest charges.
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post #345 of 664
12/8/06 at 11:10am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

I have 7.1 audio question: I bought the DMP-BD10 and Sony STR-DG800 receiver yesterday (they're in the mail from Amazon) and the receiver has a HDMI pass-through (2 in 1 out); will the HDMI connection pass all of the audio signal to the receiver or will I need other cabling?

Also, will there be any problem with getting 1080p to my TV because I am going through the receiver?


Thanks for the great review,

Joe
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post #346 of 664
12/8/06 at 12:07pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

You can get your audio through the hdmi cable to the receiver. When the upgrade comes from panasonic to decode lossless audio, that will pass over the hdmi as well. I am not familiar with that model of receiver. maybe you can post that half of the question in the receiver/amp section unless someone here knows if it will pass 1080p and not just 1080i.
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post #347 of 664
12/8/06 at 1:06pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heresy
I have 7.1 audio question: I bought the DMP-BD10 and Sony STR-DG800 receiver yesterday (they're in the mail from Amazon) and the receiver has a HDMI pass-through (2 in 1 out); will the HDMI connection pass all of the audio signal to the receiver or will I need other cabling?

Also, will there be any problem with getting 1080p to my TV because I am going through the receiver?


Thanks for the great review,

Joe

According to two sources I have read, this receiver does not accept audio input through the HDMI connection. With this particular receiver, HDMI pass-through means both video and audio.

Dana
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post #348 of 664
12/8/06 at 2:10pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Add me to the Panny BD-10 club! I now have it, along with the Samsung.
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post #349 of 664
12/8/06 at 6:01pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

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have 7.1 audio question: I bought the DMP-BD10 and Sony STR-DG800 receiver yesterday (they're in the mail from Amazon) and the receiver has a HDMI pass-through (2 in 1 out); will the HDMI connection pass all of the audio signal to the receiver or will I need other cabling?

Also, will there be any problem with getting 1080p to my TV because I am going through the receiver?

Quote:
You can get your audio through the hdmi cable to the receiver. When the upgrade comes from panasonic to decode lossless audio, that will pass over the hdmi as well. I am not familiar with that model of receiver. maybe you can post that half of the question in the receiver/amp section unless someone here knows if it will pass 1080p and not just 1080i.

On the audio side as I understand it you will be able to send Dolby True HD and DTS-HD as LPCM multi-channel audio via current HDMI. The only way to get DTS-HD and Dolby True HD to the reciever as uncompressed DTS or Dolby is HDMI 1.3. And that makes it possilbe to decode it in a reciever or pre amp processor. Other wise you have to covert the DTS or Dolby lossless audio to LPCM and send it through HDMI to your reciever.

On the video side to my knowledge the current HDMI can relay 1080p to your 1080p display without HDMI 1.3. The big difference it the added 36 bit deep color that HDMI 1.3 will provide. But yes current HDMI will pass 1080p.
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post #350 of 664
12/8/06 at 6:56pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Dave, not all receivers accept HDMI audio as well as HDMI video. The cheap-o Sony does not.

My Onkyo on the other hand...
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...=243716&page=5
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post #351 of 664
12/8/06 at 8:56pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Yeah since the Sony HDMI is just "passthrough" as opposed to a "switching passthrough" it only does video (I guess it is good if you only have one HDMI in on your TV.) So I have already told Amazon I am returning it and have ordered a Onkyo TX-SR804 instead.

Thanks for the help.


Edit: Unfortunately I just got a mail from Crutchfield saying that the DMP-BD10 is out of stock with no estimated ship date.....

Edit2: Thanks Dana, ordered from Vanns
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post #352 of 664
12/9/06 at 3:34am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

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Originally Posted by Heresy
Yeah since the Sony HDMI is just "passthrough" as opposed to a "switching passthrough" it only does video (I guess it is good if you only have one HDMI in on your TV.) So I have already told Amazon I am returning it and have ordered a Onkyo TX-SR804 instead.

Thanks for the help.


Edit: Unfortunately I just got a mail from Crutchfield saying that the DMP-BD10 is out of stock with no estimated ship date.....

They're in stock at Vanns, an authorized dealer. http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ails/487723281

Dana
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post #353 of 664
12/9/06 at 7:59am
Thread Starter 

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Moritz
On the video side to my knowledge the current HDMI can relay 1080p to your 1080p display without HDMI 1.3. The big difference it the added 36 bit deep color that HDMI 1.3 will provide. But yes current HDMI will pass 1080p.

Looks like Deep Color is more of a Video Game thing. Current encodes aren't done in deep color and they probably wont be for a long time, if ever...
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post #354 of 664
12/9/06 at 8:54am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Deep color has applications for HD DVD and BD as well, at least during playback.

Even if the encodes don't take advantage of the enhanced color space, much signal processing is done at higher bit-depth than the source encode, and HDMI 1.3 would allow the signal to then be sent in this higher-resolution form to the display without being first truncated. This could minimize color banding artifacts and improve overall fidelity in other ways.
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post #355 of 664
12/9/06 at 9:26am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

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Originally Posted by Dave_P.
Add me to the Panny BD-10 club! I now have it, along with the Samsung.

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post #356 of 664
12/9/06 at 10:33am
Thread Starter 

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet
Deep color has applications for HD DVD and BD as well, at least during playback.

Even if the encodes don't take advantage of the enhanced color space, much signal processing is done at higher bit-depth than the source encode, and HDMI 1.3 would allow the signal to then be sent in this higher-resolution form to the display without being first truncated. This could minimize color banding artifacts and improve overall fidelity in other ways.

Absolutely, let's just wait and see IF they do...
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post #357 of 664
12/11/06 at 4:04pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Hi all,

Am in Australia and thinking of buying this player. Have done alot of reading but still unsure re the audio hook up.

I have a Denon AVR 1905 with 6 channel analogue inputs, no HDMI. Will I be able to connect this player using these inputs and in the future get the full uncompressed codecs. By connecting this way can I still get the current sound formats effectively?

Thanks all. BTW This player has a RRP in Oz of $2749. How does that compare?

Eric.
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post #358 of 664
12/12/06 at 4:47am

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric M
Hi all,

Am in Australia and thinking of buying this player. Have done alot of reading but still unsure re the audio hook up.

I have a Denon AVR 1905 with 6 channel analogue inputs, no HDMI. Will I be able to connect this player using these inputs and in the future get the full uncompressed codecs. By connecting this way can I still get the current sound formats effectively?

Thanks all. BTW This player has a RRP in Oz of $2749. How does that compare?

Eric.

Hello Eric,

The short answer to your question about using analog (US spelling. ) is "Yes." For a longer answer, go here http://www.dolby.com/consumer/techno...HD_avrs_2.html

The Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price in the US is $1,300. According to an on-line currency converter, that should translate to $1654.15 Australian dollars.

Dana
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post #359 of 664
12/12/06 at 3:14pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Thats Dana, have checked that out but have one question.

My Denon is a 6.1 receiver capable of 7.1 (two surround backs). I dont think it has 7.1 analogue inputs on the rear just 6.

Will i still be able to listen to blu ray discs in 7.1? I am confused. Hope this makes sense.

Eric.
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post #360 of 664
12/12/06 at 4:08pm

Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric M
Thats Dana, have checked that out but have one question.

My Denon is a 6.1 receiver capable of 7.1 (two surround backs). I dont think it has 7.1 analogue inputs on the rear just 6.

Will i still be able to listen to blu ray discs in 7.1? I am confused. Hope this makes sense.

Eric.

Apparently not. I downloaded a copy of the Denon AVR-1905 Manual and found this note on pg. 39 regarding "Playback using the external input (EXT. IN) jacks."

"In addition, signals cannot be output from channels not connected to the input jacks." To me, that means 5.1 in = 5.1 out. It is further noted on that page that input signals from the EXT. IN jacks are output directly to the relevant speakers without passing through the surround circuits.

But, you can still connect the BD 10 via digital audio, coax or optical. As noted in that Dolby Labs paper to which I provided the link:

"In many instances, the audio quality you will experience from this connection may be better than what you would experience during playback of standard-definition DVD-Video discs, especially if the native signal on the disc is Dolby TrueHD or high-bit-rate Dolby Digital Plus. This is a direct result of a higher-quality source signal feeding a Dolby Digital encoder running at 640 kbps—higher than the maximum bit rate on DVD-Video."

Dana
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