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post #61 of 92
9/12/06 at 5:47pm

Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

As others have posted, and as I saw numerous people reporting at FW and DVDT, The Office: Season 2 is shelf-tagged, and ringing up, at $17.99 in CC B&M, despite the fact their print ad shows it at $29.99 this week (Season 1 is listed specifically at $17.99). Looks like somebody made a boo-boo! Got one, may go back for Season 1 if they put any on the shelf this week (grrrrrr).
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post #62 of 92
9/12/06 at 7:14pm
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Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

I picked up Grey's Anatomy: Season 2 @ Target tonight (with exclusive bonus disc) for $39.99 and the new Barenaked Ladies CD ($11.88)!
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post #63 of 92
9/12/06 at 8:31pm

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Originally Posted by WillG
Well, I picked up my Star Wars DVDs at Circuit City. They weren't giving away lithographs at my C.C. They were giving away t-shirts. But, they only had ones available in small, which [Comic Book Guy] the average Star Wars fan has absolutely no use for [/Comic Book Guy]

Those I think were supposed to be for the Lego Star Wars Video Game.
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post #64 of 92
9/12/06 at 8:38pm

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FYI, not all the Food Network 3-disc sets were marked down at Target. The pattern seemed to be that only one of three releases for a series was $9.99. So I wound up getting Good Eats "Meats, Sweets and Holiday Treats" and Everday Italian "Celebrate Italian." Otherwise I would have purchased all the Good Eats releases.
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post #65 of 92
9/13/06 at 5:58am

Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

Cameron,

I'll recheck my Target when I get back down there this week, but they had more than four shelf tags for the $9.99 price (four different shows). I could have sworn the majority were on sale...maybe I'll make a list based on the shelf tags...
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post #66 of 92
9/13/06 at 7:18am

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The Target I went to didn't have any shelf tags noting the markdown, so I took them to the scanners to check the price and that's how I found out only some were $9.99.
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post #67 of 92
9/13/06 at 7:31am

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Originally Posted by Jason_V
Apparently, according to TV Shows on DVD, both BB and WalMart have an agreement to bring Voltron two weeks earlier than street date.

Don't they need to involve the studio/distributer on that agreement?
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post #68 of 92
9/13/06 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by NickSoune
Don't they need to involve the studio/distributer on that agreement?

Nick: I think that TVSHowsonDVD article that Jason linked-to explains Best Buy does have some kind of agreement with the distributor.

BTW, I found that particular article written by Weekly RoundUp emeritus Dave Lambert to be a big WOW! They (TVSHowsonDVD.com) are going to turn the other way when they receive info on the various EXCLUSIVES that retailers offer on mainstream releases (for example, Target's exclusive bonus DVD of content with Grey's Anatomy: Season 2)!

I guess that would be one strong way to let retailers know that, as fans, we have had enough with running around from store-to-store to try and score one of these EXCLUSIVE promotional releases. What do you guys think?

I know they are one of the main talking points of a given RoundUp any week. After price, I'd say those damn EXCLUSIVES are what steer people to a given store to buy a release. Good for the retailer if they get the EXCLUSIVE, but bad for the fans who don't have access to a particular store or promotion.

Whaddya think?!
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post #69 of 92
9/13/06 at 3:38pm

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I picked up Star Wars at CC, today. The clerk told me to wait while she got my lithograph print. I felt like such a geek with that.
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post #70 of 92
9/13/06 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by Marty M
I picked up Star Wars at CC, today. The clerk told me to wait while she got my lithograph print. I felt like such a geek with that.

Kinda like asking the pharmacist for one of those...ahem...personal products that can be embarassing?
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post #71 of 92
9/14/06 at 6:31am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
I know they are one of the main talking points of a given RoundUp any week. After price, I'd say those damn EXCLUSIVES are what steer people to a given store to buy a release. Good for the retailer if they get the EXCLUSIVE, but bad for the fans who don't have access to a particular store or promotion.

Whaddya think?!

While I absolutely hate going from store to store (this week I got home, found out about the Target exclusive on The Office, then drove back, returned the one I bought at BB...), I can't really fault the retailers for wanting to gain a competitive advantage. I know that the blame seems to be laid at the retailers' feet moreso than the studios for some reason (at least, in some of what I've read), which I never understood. It's the retailers' fault for wanting these exclusives? Because they are putting a gun to the studios' heads?

I will agree with the disgust for the practice if studios are intentionally leaving off extras that there would otherwise be room for in order to setup a retailer exclusive. "The Office" would fall into that category. It obviously fits on the disc since the Target disc includes it with disc 2. However, there are some rare examples ("Top Gun") where the "bonus disc" includes material that could not fit on the discs included with the set and the only way we'd ever get it is through a retailer incentive. I suppose studios could up the disc count and pass whatever cost on to the consumer, but I imagine that if they decide they are doing a 2-disc set, they are sticking to fitting the content onto 2-discs.

The worst case of a retailer exclusive I've heard of lately is with this Jessica Simpson CD at Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart has an exclusive song and it just happens to be the second single, which is hilarious. People who bought that CD at somewhere other than Wal-Mart are gonna hear this song on the radio and try to figure out why that song isn't on their brand new CD.
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post #72 of 92
9/14/06 at 8:39am
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Originally Posted by BrandonJF
I can't really fault the retailers for wanting to gain a competitive advantage. I know that the blame seems to be laid at the retailers' feet moreso than the studios for some reason (at least, in some of what I've read), which I never understood. It's the retailers' fault for wanting these exclusives? Because they are putting a gun to the studios' heads?

Not having a vast knowledge of the business of selling/marketing DVDs except from the consumer viewpoint...that's pretty much my understanding of this. The retailers look for some leg up on a high-profile title to try and get those interested to make the trip to their store. Retailers used to use a loss-leader strategy, but I believe their hands are somewhat tied on how low they can advertise a particular DVD title. I'd love to hear more on this subject from people "in the know".

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Originally Posted by BrandonJF
The worst case of a retailer exclusive I've heard of lately is with this Jessica Simpson CD at Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart has an exclusive song and it just happens to be the second single, which is hilarious. People who bought that CD at somewhere other than Wal-Mart are gonna hear this song on the radio and try to figure out why that song isn't on their brand new CD.

That's hysterical. I hope it draws attention to this particular issue.

I started a thread a long time ago in the music forum--which never really got off the ground--about "exclusive songs" on CDs. I know now, as a "smart" consumer, that I have to check around to see if a new release CD I'm interested in is available with an "exclusive track" at any of the major retailers near me. I HATE THAT! For example, the new Diana Krall CD (released 9-19) will have a bonus track at Target. That is a despicable practice. Honestly, I find it as offensive as MAR vs. OAR. I remember back-in-the-day an album of songs by an artist was considered a stand-alone "work of art"....that the artist took pride in the song selection, the order of presentation, etc. Now some CDs have a whole 'nother song on them...contrary to what "most" people find on their copy of the CD? That's garbage. The artists should be ashamed of submitting to such crass commercialism. I realize, along with anyone else, that $$$ drives the marketplace and affects decisions in the marketplace...but this practice of EXCLUSIVE songs on CDs and EXCLUSIVE DVD bonus features is patently unfair and should be phased out.
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post #73 of 92
9/14/06 at 9:56am

Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

I noticed that the Grey's Anatomy soundtrack (Vol. 2) had a couple exclusive tracks at a couple different stores. That's extremely excessive, as was the Prison Break Target-or-BB bonus discs last month...

I get angry with myself for being a completist 'collector'. Was kinda sorta okay with the $5 more for Target's Office box ($35 instead of $30), but if you factor in the CC pricing error ($18 vs. $35), I paid double what I could have for... an 8 minute featurette. Huh.

And then the BB box swag would be fun to have, but I don't want to re-buy-and-gift right now...
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post #74 of 92
9/14/06 at 10:45am

Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

i agree mike.

i'm surprised we havent seen a "scene" put into a movie
available exclusively at "insert retailer here"
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post #75 of 92
9/14/06 at 6:26pm

Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

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Originally Posted by BrandonJF
The worst case of a retailer exclusive I've heard of lately is with this Jessica Simpson CD at Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart has an exclusive song and it just happens to be the second single, which is hilarious. People who bought that CD at somewhere other than Wal-Mart are gonna hear this song on the radio and try to figure out why that song isn't on their brand new CD.
I don't see this as any different than those artists who release their albums, then re-release them 6 months later with additional bonus tracks. Mariah Carey and The Killers both did this with their last albums. Carey's bonus track was also a single. Everyone who bought the album in the first 6 months was SOL unless they rebought the album (or waited for a digital download).

Probably one of the reasons I buy very few new release CD's these days.
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post #76 of 92
9/14/06 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by Malcolm R
I don't see this as any different than those artists who release their albums, then re-release them 6 months later with additional bonus tracks. Mariah Carey and The Killers both did this with their last albums. Carey's bonus track was also a single. Everyone who bought the album in the first 6 months was SOL unless they rebought the album (or waited for a digital download).

Probably one of the reasons I buy very few new release CD's these days.

I've never heard of this. Get I'm kinda outta touch with this sort of thing. I don't buy a LOT of new music CDs. Certainly not much mainstream music. This week's BNL release and Diana Krall next week are truly the exception for me.

WHY would the artists add a track to an existing album and then re-release it a few months later?!?! That is screwed up.
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post #77 of 92
9/15/06 at 6:32am

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
I've never heard of this. Get I'm kinda outta touch with this sort of thing. I don't buy a LOT of new music CDs. Certainly not much mainstream music. This week's BNL release and Diana Krall next week are truly the exception for me.

WHY would the artists add a track to an existing album and then re-release it a few months later?!?! That is screwed up.


I'm sure it has nothing to do with draining every last cent they possibly can out of the music consuming public. It's really all about getting their "art" out there for the greater good of mankind. Anyone who thinks differently is just cynical and paranoid!!
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post #78 of 92
9/15/06 at 10:37am

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Maybe George Lucas has secretly been managing Mariah Carey and the Killers?
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post #79 of 92
9/15/06 at 12:45pm

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Kinda like asking the pharmacist for one of those...ahem...personal products that can be embarassing?
That is exactly how it felt. I really didn't want anyone seeing me carry this out of the store. I have a 6 year old grandson who might be interested in this, assuming he knows about Star Wars.
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post #80 of 92
9/15/06 at 2:14pm

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
WHY would the artists add a track to an existing album and then re-release it a few months later?!?! That is screwed up.
I'm sure most bands don't have any say in the matter and the blame is with the label.

BAND: "Don't you think keeping our next single as a bonus track is going to bum out our fans?"

LABEL: "Yeah but we don't care becasue it'll sell more copies. And don't forget we own you so we'll do whatever we want."
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post #81 of 92
9/15/06 at 3:49pm

Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

I just bit on the (ugh) SW discs... sense my excitement. I purchased from CC because of the price. They had stacks of lithos for each movie so I grabbed one of each. I'm sure I could have grabbed more, but didn't. Then a the front register there was a trilogy promo sign that they had a few of sitting out, so I asked if I could have one. I left with a bunch of things for my kid who's only three... In like five years he'll love it! (yeah right)


BTW has anyone ever found a great "bonus" for purchasing at one store. Most of the extra discs I've seen are basically crap. And the other stuff just sits on a shelf collecting dust. Hardly a good argument for hitting any one store. Plus, I think my wife would like less crap around the house...
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post #82 of 92
9/15/06 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by Jeff D
BTW has anyone ever found a great "bonus" for purchasing at one store. Most of the extra discs I've seen are basically crap. And the other stuff just sits on a shelf collecting dust. Hardly a good argument for hitting any one store. Plus, I think my wife would like less crap around the house...

Well said.

About the only bonus discs I think are really worth making the effort for are those with decent supplemental material--ie: documentaries, extra TV episodes, or things which should already be included as part of the set...for EVERYONE to enjoy and appreciate!
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post #83 of 92
9/15/06 at 6:09pm

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That Women of Bond disc from a few years back was pretty good, as far as "bonus" discs go.
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post #84 of 92
9/15/06 at 7:03pm

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How many releases of Grease does this make now. I could swear this is at least the third.
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post #85 of 92
9/15/06 at 7:30pm

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
WHY would the artists add a track to an existing album and then re-release it a few months later?!?! That is screwed up.
Perhaps the music industry has just taken a page from the playbook of the movie industry regarding double dipping.
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post #86 of 92
9/15/06 at 7:38pm

Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

DP
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post #87 of 92
9/15/06 at 7:50pm
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I've been in several stores the past coupla weeks: Borders, Circuit City, Best Buy, Target, Wal-Marts.....and I still have not seen a single copy of Robin Hood: Men in Tights.

Has anyone?

This is not a huge issue for me...but I've been wanting to see what this movie was all about. I have a fair recollection of the 70s TV show "When Things Were Rotten" and am wondering if there's any similarity/connection.
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post #88 of 92
9/15/06 at 7:56pm

Re: Weekly RoundUp 9-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
I've been in several stores the past coupla weeks: Borders, Circuit City, Best Buy, Target, Wal-Marts.....and I still have not seen a single copy of Robin Hood: Men in Tights.

Has anyone?
I saw it at the Best Buy in my area but it was later in the week so I don't know if it was there on release day.
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post #89 of 92
9/15/06 at 9:32pm

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Mike:

I LOVED "WTWR"!!!! I think it was the last REALLY funny stuff that Mel Brooks did, IMHO. If I'm not mistaken, RH:MIT was released after the TV show ended, but was basically in the same vein (with some of the same actors if my memory serves me well...)
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post #90 of 92
9/16/06 at 5:49am

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Originally Posted by Jeff D
BTW has anyone ever found a great "bonus" for purchasing at one store. Most of the extra discs I've seen are basically crap. And the other stuff just sits on a shelf collecting dust. Hardly a good argument for hitting any one store. Plus, I think my wife would like less crap around the house...

The Field of Dreams bonus disc from Wal-mart that was offered with the newer release. It had that great hour-long featurette from the previous release (I think, or maybe from the LD?) but wasn't on the newer release except for the bonus disc.
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