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post #241 of 740

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The thing with VM is that they only have regulars for a certain number of episodes each. From what I've heard, only Kristen Bell, Jason Dohring, and Enrico Colantoni are able to appear in every episode. They simply don't have the money to pay all the regulars for every episode.

For example, the actor who played Wallace was contracted for 17 episodes last year, so they wrote him off the show for several episodes, so he could appear in all of the episodes toward the end of the season.

Rob has said that he wants the characters who rarely factor in the big mysteries, like Wallace and Mac, to have big roles in the final mystery of the season. So keeping them out of these early episodes will free them up for the last part of the season.

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post #242 of 740

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My money is on the undergrad student in her Criminal Law class.

I also predict Veronica and Piz will be an item by the end of the season. Logan is going down.
post #243 of 740

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You mean the guy who was Lucky last year? I'm guessing he's too obvious. He seems shifty and suspicious.
post #244 of 740

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Aaaargh. Dohring's mumblings keeps ruining critical scenes for me. I didn't understand much about his big reveal. There was a fire in some Mexico motel. He ran.

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I can't shit this guy sayz half of the time. Ugh. And Cheryl is right, he's become an unsufferable bore.

About the rapist, my money is on Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Keith Mars


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post #245 of 740

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Did no one get the exchange?

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post #246 of 740

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Did no one get the exchange?

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He was sleeping (alone) in an adjoining room when his buddy, who was "entertaining", set the room on fire. The blaze ended up taking down the whole hotel and they immediately fled instead of fessing up or even checking to make sure everybody got out of the hotel. So for them to use that as an alibi would risk being extradited to Mexico for the fire.
post #247 of 740

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Veronica Mars gets full season order (sort of): http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2006/1...son-order.html
post #248 of 740

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In case you're having trouble getting through like I was earlier, it says that seven additional episodes have been ordered for Veronica instead of the traditional nine. A loss of two episodes isn't horrible as a viewer, but it does make you wonder if we'll get another season.

Anyway, I finally saw next week's promo, and it's horrible. That's not what this show is about.
post #249 of 740

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Here is the text from the above link...
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Veronica Mars gets a full season order -- sort of
Just heard from Rob Thomas, and the CW has given "Veronica Mars" a back seven instead of the traditional back nine. This is obviously brand-new information for them, so it'll take a while to figure out how this will affect the later two arcs. (My guess: since they're already at work on arc #2, the last one will take the biggest hit.)

This is good news, certainly for this season, and I don't know that the slightly reduced order is a big danger sign for the possibility of a fourth season. The CW hasn't been as successful out of the gate as expected, and they may be looking to pinch pennies until they get through to next year. Or maybe I'm just being naively optimistic. Wouldn't be the first time.

UPDATE: Rob says he's still trying to figure things out, but as of now, the plan is to do a four-episode arc for the end of the season.
post #250 of 740

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I suppose it's really unlikely with the need to maximize the potentially limited time they have, but I wish there was some kind of update on Mac's adoption storyline. I suppose Madison wouldn't be caught dead at Hearst, so it might be interesting if we find out that Mac has been spending a lot of time with her mother and sister while Madison's away. And then, Madison might just come home early and say, "WTF are you doing here?" I'd like to see something like that.
post #251 of 740
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Wow, EW writer Gillian Flynn continues to be quite unhappy with the show. In the most recent issue she gave this coming Tuesday's episode a "D" rating! If I recall she also was quite harsh after the first episode aired.
post #252 of 740

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Wow, EW writer Gillian Flynn continues to be quite unhappy with the show. In the most recent issue she gave this coming Tuesday's episode a "D" rating! If I recall she also was quite harsh after the first episode aired.
Yeah, while I agree with a lot of what she has been saying about the show, she has been kind of harsh. The show is not what it once was, but it's still enjoyable.
post #253 of 740

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I suppose it's really unlikely with the need to maximize the potentially limited time they have, but I wish there was some kind of update on Mac's adoption storyline. I suppose Madison wouldn't be caught dead at Hearst, so it might be interesting if we find out that Mac has been spending a lot of time with her mother and sister while Madison's away. And then, Madison might just come home early and say, "WTF are you doing here?" I'd like to see something like that.
Huh?
post #254 of 740

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Well, I'm all for the rapist storyline to wrap up soon, it's just not something that's going to draw new viewers to the show.
post #255 of 740

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Huh?

Mac and Madison were swapped at birth. Madison lived the life of luxury that should have been Mac's, as Veronica discovered. Mac clicked with her real mother and sister, so it's not beyond the realm that she would continue her relationship with them, as long as Madison could be prevented from knowing. This would be interesting material to revisit, but it's not likely with two arcs to wrap up, one of which has been cut short by two episodes. Perhaps for season four, if we get there.
post #256 of 740

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Mac and Madison were swapped at birth. Madison lived the life of luxury that should have been Mac's, as Veronica discovered. Mac clicked with her real mother and sister, so it's not beyond the realm that she would continue her relationship with them, as long as Madison could be prevented from knowing. This would be interesting material to revisit, but it's not likely with two arcs to wrap up, one of which has been cut short by two episodes. Perhaps for season four, if we get there.
You know, I COMPLETELY forgot about that whole ordeal. My mind is officially mush.
post #257 of 740

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I don't know that there's much call for follow-up, though - the episode ended with Mac turning away from her biological mother to go camping with the people who raised and love her. It's not spelled out, but it's a moment that clearly says what's important to her (and foreshadows Veronica shredding the results of her DNA test without opening it).
post #258 of 740

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Was Parker the only real rape, then? What about the one last season? I don't remember how that one came out. The rapist is to blame for what happened to Parker, but I wonder if the cabal are partly to blame for creating the atmosphere that made it possible.

I'm actually feeling a little bad for Logan now.
post #259 of 740

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FYI -

According to this link, KTLA in Los Angeles will be airing this week's episide "Lord of the Pi's" on Saturday, November 25, 9:00 p.m. thanks to a Clipper game that is on tonight. I guess I'll have to wait a few days for my Veronica Mars fix. Stupid basketball...
post #260 of 740

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Please don't read my post, then.
post #261 of 740

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I saw the first few words of it and then stopped reading in a big old hurry!
post #262 of 740

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Sorry. I didn't know some had not had the opportunity to see it. I'll spoilerize it.
post #263 of 740

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You really can't hold the thread up for pre-emptions due to local decisions. The onus is up to viewers not to read this thread if they are subjected to pre-emptions.

The puns in this episode were bordering on bad. There were more nods to The Big Lebowski in this episode. VM was so shrill to Logan at the end, very painful to watch.
post #264 of 740

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Poor Logan, without Veronica the kid has nobody. Veronica could have been nicer to him, afterall what was his crime? Yes, what he did was a bit much but he only did it because he was worried about her after her attack and as he should be, she always seems to find herself in dangerous situations all by her lonesome, like the scene tonight when she was alone and thought she heard someone and it turned out to be the janitor.

She may be a brilliant young sleuth but she's got ice in her veins sometimes, that last shot of him standing there watching her reject his phone call from afar was just bad.

So, the rapes were faked? I'm surprised that we didn't see an angrier Veronica this week, I thought she'd be hell bent to find the guy who drugged her and tore her hair out of her scalp.
post #265 of 740

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I don't think all the rapes are faked - Parker's clearly wasn't, nor the one from last season. What's not clear to me is which group is the copycats - did it start with these girls crying wolf or did they add to it in order to point the blame more squarely at the fraternities.

Whichever it was, Veronica, Lamb, Parker, etc., should be really, really pissed. That these people would screw up an investigation of real violent crimes just to push forward their own agenda is sick; I half-suspect Veronica will discover that the real rapist would have been caught earlier if one of the faked crimes hadn't provided him an alibi.
post #266 of 740

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If the trio of angry women Veronica confronted were responsible for the "keister egg" incident, then they not only faked at least one rape, but they comitted an actual one on the head of the fraternity.

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post #267 of 740

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This episode was all over the place. There were so many pop-culture references that it was hard to keep up. Bud Rose? Heh. I did catch that one. And the Bionic Woman.

But Veronica was SO quippy that she bordered on manic. It was odd, given that she was just drugged and attacked by someone, presumably the serial rapist. After the last two episodes, the overly jokey tone of this one, and especially of Veronica herself, seemed very off. The contrast of the all the jokes with the brutal rape of Chip, and that's what it was, was very odd. Keister egg? Okay, I laughed at the pun, but still. The attack on him wasn't funny.

Even when the episode is uneven, though, VM is never boring, at least to me. I was entertained even when I was confused by the jarring shifts in tone. And I am fascinated by what they are doing with the V/L relationship, because I find it pretty well done, believable and realistic. I like that they make the Veronica the "bad guy" sometimes in her personal conflicts, or even most of the time in many people's views. I love Veronica because of her flaws, not despite them. And I loved that Logan stood up to Veronica about her demands that he change, and I really loved his standing up to Keith and telling him that maybe he should yell at Veronica a little more.
post #268 of 740

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I don't know what that little dance was that she did in the alley when talking to Dick, but that was one of the first times I've found her annoying. I think she was annoying a couple of other times last night, like when she said something to the waitress in the hall. I can't remember what that was, though. It does probably boil down to the understanding in the back of my mind that she should be a little more upset by the events of last episode.

The two "Veronica is freaked out" scenes were very good. The foggy walk to the Dean's office had a horror movie feel to it and was very creepy, and there was some good tension in the library scene. She really felt vulnerable in that scene.
post #269 of 740

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The two "Veronica is freaked out" scenes were very good. The foggy walk to the Dean's office had a horror movie feel to it and was very creepy, and there was some good tension in the library scene. She really felt vulnerable in that scene.

Totally agree. Those scenes were very well done and I was really feeling the tension and suspense and fearing for Veronica.

Otoh, that high level of tension didn't last long when Veronica was constantly breaking into comedy routines. She thinks she's being stalked by a rapist and she's doing her best Shecky Greene? I enjoy the wit and the pop-culture references as much as anyone, but sometimes less is more. Diane Ruggiero is one of my favorite writers on the show, and she's always good with the one-liners but it felt forced, like they were trying too hard.
post #270 of 740

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So, next week's preview had more substance to it. Less lovey-dovey crap, more tension, a bloodied Veronica, and the promise of a death!

Mac was in the preview, but I didn't notice Weevil. Where the hell have they been, from a character standpoint? Hopefully they'll explain it.
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