Star Trek TOS Special Edition Starts Sept 16th. - Page 3

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I posted a link on post #53. According to the site, the SF Bay area lists KBHK/KPIX.

Dave, in the article on the Trekmovie.com site, the syndicated enhanced Trek is scheduled for 2 years. So home video versions, if any since none are announced, won't be out till after this period is over. So they say.

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In Tulsa, Oklahoma, it airs at either 10 p.m. or 10:30 p.m. on Sunday nights. Paramount/CBS/"Star Trek" is not trying to bury the show. It is syndicated. It is up to local broadcast stations as to when it should be aired. If this was going to air without the new effects, I wouldn't watch at all, because I have all the shows memorized practically, and I can watch a much better version on DVD than what my local CBS affiliate will be airing, since the only HD content they provide is only that passed through the network. As it is now, I will certainly be watching.

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I indeed will check them out. Wish they were unedited as well....

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Finally found the SF Bay Area CW webpage and it lists Star Trek at 11:00pm Saturday, replacing Enterprise.

http://kbcwtv.com/schedule/

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That's do-able!


http://trekmovie.com/2006/09/06/trek...being-changed/

"...Remastered in HD, but not available in HD?
One of the areas of confusion lately is regarding the availability to see the show in HDTV. TrekMovie.com was told that some stations would be carrying the show in HD, but since that time no listings (including on digital HD stations) seem to be in HD. When asked about this Nogawksi said that all the remastered episodes are ‘available’ in HD format, however there are issues regarding affiliates abilities to store the show in HD so for now it is being distributed in SD. He went on to say that as time went on they would try and work with affiliates who wanted to show Star Trek Remastered in HD. So it appears for the time being that the only place to see Star Trek Remastered in HD is at CBS Paramount headquarters. Another lingering question that is also vexing our friend Bill Hunt at Digital Bits, revolves around the format for the HD versions of the show. CBS said that the show in syndication was in standard 4:3 ratio, but the new HD master was in 16:9 widescreen. What is unclear is if this widescreen version crops the original show, or if it has ‘letterbox’ black bars on the left or right. Expect updates as more info comes out about HD, ratios, etc..."

Sounds like it won't be available in HD at least for now...

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this is the same problem that happened to enterprise syndication runs, not broadcast in HD on channels that are reserved for HD normally during primetime (as you trekkies know, ENT was broadcast in HD during the 1st run for those lucky, or unlucky depending on your POV, enough to have caught it). i wonder if it *really* saved $ by simultaneously broadcasting the same SD to HD and SD channels. i thought it'd be the same $ since they would have streamlined everything for HD... but if HD continues to incur a negative cost in labor or broadcast issues... won't this impede a speedier adaptation of HD in general? i'm betting that 2009 will be pushed back even further to 2015, 2020, etc.

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Mike i just checked TV Guide online, and my TiVo. I show it on ch. 41 Sat. the 16th (my B day by the way) at 11PM at night. I think it reruns a few hours later. They may very well run it on Sunday night too.

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EDIT: Oops! I missed the fact that there was another page to the thread already. Original post follows

I did a search in TVguide.com's listings for the San Francisco area and found that the remastered TOS is airing on KBCW at 11:00 PM PDT on Saturdays, but curiously also found a listing for 12:00 AM PDT on Monday the 18th with the next week's episode, Miri. Anyone else need a listing?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9XHmj-dPEY

Brace yourself you will be amazed. This is going to be sweet.

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Uh... Jerome... that clip has nothing to do with the "new" show. Sorry.

The Trek Enhanced clip was done some time ago by Daren Docherman (sp), who was involved with the CG for the TMP Directors Cut on DVD.

The guy is good... however he's not involved with this project. See his site at www.trekenhanced.com as I believe he put up a statement about all of this.

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I'm glad that's not it, because I was far from amazed by that clip anyway.

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ummm...

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Ok, NOW I'm confused. The Billy Joel looking guy in the clip on StarTrek.com just said, "we're going to give you shots of the enterprise, different angles of the enterprise then you've seen before simply because they couldn't do the type of camera moves that we can today..."

Isn't this completely the opposite of, "we are maintaining the look of the old FX shots..."

parodox, much?

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Wow, I thought I had something for you guys, but late as usual. I thought the enterprise looked pretty good.

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Rick, yes, channel 41 is also airing the revised Star Trek series, and CBS is airing it where they used to air "Enterprise" on Sunday nights. Also, if anyone gets New York WNBC, either because they live in New York or through DirecTV like I do, they will be airing the revised Star Trek on Sunday nights also (albeit at 3:35 a.m.). I receive the HD feed from WNBC, but their Star Trek will not be in HD.

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I have only just now looked at the work done on The Doomsday Machine. I've heard horrible things about it in this thread or the other one, and frankly, I just don't get it. I think the guy did a marvelous job. The enhanced effects are very faithful to the original, yet they are "enhanced," and they don't take you out of the show at all. If this is the kind of work CBS will be doing, I will be very pleased.

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That clip is not related. That guy did it for a proposal to paramount and was turned down.

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Dave, I know.

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oops

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There was another much earlier attempt at CGI upgrading over 6 years ago by a group called Digital Stream. The guys working on it were Rich Heierling, Doug Johnson and Jon Peoples. They tested it out on "The Doomsday Machine" too. That's the one that sucked big time. The Enterprise was way out of proportion and detailed wrong with all kinds of way-out-of-scale hull plating on the surface. The Doomsday machine itself was rather silly looking - similar to the original concept except smoother and some green "ears" on each side of the opening and a rather flat looking spinning wheel of yellow, orange and white inside it.

I kept a copy of the old mpegs on my harddrive to give myself a good laugh when I need it.

I guess the exercise was a good attempt, but it was just not ready.

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Looks like the "new" Trek will be show on Sundays @ 6PM in the Raleigh/Durham NC area on WRDC, the old UPN28.

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http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...cle/25055.html
^if you guys the "making of" short video clips, you can see what they're trying 2do =). i think it's fairly beneficial. my fav part of the process is taking the original negatives and zapping hair particles, dirt, scratches, THAT copy is to die for =). i'm glad they FINALLY did it! now we have to wait for the HD-DVD/BR TOS set to come out! =). looks like 2008 or 2009 before we can get our hands on a copy.

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Pretty cool video below. Before you click on it, yes, I like Star Trek too. I'm not making fun of Star Trek by linking it, I just think it's a really clever video. I just thought I would save some time by mentioning that before you watch it.

http://gorillamask.net/startreknin.shtml

Doug

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Are we going to be seeing the enhanced version on standard OTA or will it be on the HD channels in your area?

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I'm cautiously optimistic at this point. At least, optimistic enough to give it a chance and watch it.

Question #1: How many here prefer the Extended Editions of Lord of the Rings to the original theatrical versions?

Question #2: How many here think that George Lucas would receive a lot less criticism if he were to make both versions of Star Wars available?

http://trekmovie.com/2006/09/06/trek...being-changed/


Michael Okuda's involvement and approval goes a long way towards giving this project credibility.





That is reassuring. I read elsewhere that it is up to each station to decide whether, and how much, to cut, if anything when airing episodes in syndication. If episodes are cut in your area, complain to the TV station, not to CBS.

About rumored links to the Abrams movie:


For those who aren't sure of local availability:

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The one clip they show of the Enerprise from the link above was good. As they said the stars were the same, and the track of the ship was the same. In a week i will have seen the first episode.

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The worst thing I've heard lately is that they are doing this shot for shot... what's the point? If you're going to go the CGI route, why not really show what could have been had they had the tech of today. Especially if their intent is to make it palatable to today's audience.

I sat down and watched The Man Trap as part of TV Land's 40th tribute. Keep in mind, this perspective is brought to you by someone who hasn't seen but a handful of the 'classic' episodes (Journey to Babel, City on the Edge of Forever) and grew up during the heyday of TNG. If this episode is representative of a syndication cut, I can't imagine how ponderously long a full episode must seem. It seemed to drag on forever! Not to mention the effects were hideous. It's really a shame they aren't applying the CGI tech to the salt vampire transitions... that would go a long way to solving some of my problems with the episode, though nothing can scrub the crappy ending and Spock's high-pitched "She's *killing* the captain" out of my brain right now.

I'd like to see CGI retouched on all make-up, interior graphic displays & SFX. For instance, the signage on Dr. McCoy's door in the episode instantly drew me out of the future and back to the 60s. It would be so easy to overlay CGI with something similar to signage in the TOS movies.

I'm less excited about the new remastered episodes the more I hear.

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You know, I hate to agree, but I do. In this case, since the originals are already released, and TOS is the ONLY series that dosn't mesh with the rest of them, even the movies, I'd love for them to remaster the interiors as well, so they resemble the movie Enterprise more closley. Seeing great exterior improvements, and then just seeing those one color corridor walled sets is kind of weird looking. But, if the majority of the episodes are dull and boring, even improving effects won't make them less so. Probably one of the reasons why I stayed away from watching the entire series for so long.

But, either way, I'll be watching on the NY HD feed and posting pics if anyone wants 'em..

*edit* Maybe when these are released on Blue-Ray, and if the public reception to them is generally warm, they can get the interiors done as well. For now it just seems like one big experiment to see how the general public would take it.

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David-You happen to see one of the weaker episodes that does not truely represent Star Trek at it's best.

Neil- I don't think this is an experiment. And there is not going to be much modification to any of the live action shots, graphics on the main viewscreen will be done though.

Below is part of the post I did on the other Star Trek thread. (I would have thought the mods would have merge the threads by now!) Thought I'd repeat it here for those who might find it informative:

I just came back from Seattle for the Star Trek 40th Gala Celebration. I only attended Friday and Saturday.

Saturday morning, I got into the main room late and caught the later portion of an extended video of the one seen on Star Trek.com. This video shows what they are doing for the Enhanced Star Trek. The part that we haven't seen are actual clips from the show and more coverage of the effects work and title track music redo. What I saw was a new CGI shot of the Enterprise fly-by, a quick glimpse of the Romulan Bird of Prey and the Enterprise firing photon torpedos. (The slight error on Balance of Terror where Kirk orders phasers point blank at the Romulan ship, but they show photon torpedos is retained if the clips shown are from Balance of Terror). And I saw the CGI Enterprise orbiting a CGI Earth.

I wished I knew they were showing this and seen the whole thing. From what I saw, it looked like what they said they'd do. Essentially replace the original effects shots with new shots in CGI, shot for shot, same angles and POV.

The emcee said we can see these in one week as you all know. I am excited to see these remastered shows. I can see they genuinely cared and I understand their reasons for doing it. While it sounded like they were potentially doing a George Lucas, it's not the case. We will see Star Trek's original live action film elements looking sharper, cleaner and more colorful then ever and complimented with the new enhanced effects. And the original Star Trek with original effects are also remastered and my understanding is in HD.

Still no news if we will see it on any home video optical disc format. But I'm sure they will let us have them.

And a personal comment; I really don't believe this effort was done solely for the motivation of generating more income with a known money making property by Paramount. Of course they know they have a large built-in fan base. But I think they recognize that Star Trek is a part of Americana and that they wanted to celebrate the series on it's 40th birthday. This is one way to preserve the series in the highest quality possible and to make it stand up to the high definition equipment we have or will have.

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i just checked tvguide.com and balance of terror is broadcasting next sunday morning around 2:30AM in both SD and HD channels. whether or not it will broadcast IN HD on the HD channel remains to be seen =). there's still a LOT of SD content on HD channels.

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Ok, NOW I'm confused. The Billy Joel looking guy in the clip on StarTrek.com just said, "we're going to give you shots of the enterprise, different angles of the enterprise then you've seen before simply because they couldn't do the type of camera moves that we can today..."

Isn't this completely the opposite of, "we are maintaining the look of the old FX shots and re-doing them shot for shot"

parodox, much?

Which is correct? I guess we'll know in one week.