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post #1 of 397
8/23/06 at 5:29am
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I actually got up for The Early Show this time to check out confirmation of what may be the most tasteless thing this show has ever done: no, not the division by race, but the fact that they went back to 20 contestants! It should be 16 every season.

As for the race thing, I would prefer a diverse group split up randomly, and as controversial as the twist may seem, I'm definitely glad to see more minority casting, especially since it almost guarantees another minority winner.

There weren't any real stand-outs to me other than one name that I know I've heard of, so I checked IMDB: Jonathan Penner. An actor. Ugh. (Assuming it's the same one) I'll hold judgement until I read all the bios but I really wasn't that impressed with the cast, although I give them credit for the gutsy division and more diverse casting.
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post #2 of 397
8/23/06 at 8:37pm

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Yes it is the actor Jonathan.
While it may be good that they mixed up the races and have more minorities, they should have mixed up where people came from. 13 out of 20 are from California, and at least half of those are from LA.

As for standouts, I'd have to go with Cao Boi (Cowboy), he seems like a cool guy to be around, and lives ~2 hours from here.
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post #3 of 397
8/24/06 at 3:45am

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Originally Posted by Chris_Morris
13 out of 20 are from California, and at least half of those are from LA.

That IS disappointing. You'd think the producers understand how much having a local or regional connection to a Survivor helps.
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post #4 of 397
8/24/06 at 3:52am

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I think they do understand that, but I wonder to what extent there has been a disparity between the contestants and the regional break-down of the viewership.
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post #5 of 397
8/24/06 at 4:37am

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Over half from CA? Crap. That sucks. I love it when a player is from my home state.

When does this one premiere?
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post #6 of 397
8/24/06 at 6:08am

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Originally Posted by AnthonyC
I actually got up for The Early Show this time to check out confirmation of what may be the most tasteless thing this show has ever done: no, not the division by race, but the fact that they went back to 20 contestants! It should be 16 every season.

HaHa. What a great way to start the thread. I have never been a big fan of the large cast because they always seem to throw them off in stupid ways. (Example: You didn't get picked for a team) I have also been a fan since season one and so prefer it the old way.

One thing I see happening is that they will mix up the races within 6 days of being on the island. I wish they wouldn't and would completely eliminate one team before they moved on but figure this will not stick just like last season. The older ladies lost two challeges and that was it they got everyone together to completely re-pick the tribes and divide everyone up which kind of defeated the purpose of the show.

I don't consider myself a racist but I honestly do stereotype people. At my work we (multiple colors) have been cracking up about who we think will do good and bad in what challenges. Is is politically correct? Hell No! Is it fun? You bet your butt.
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post #7 of 397
8/24/06 at 11:19am

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Originally Posted by Matt^Brown
One thing I see happening is that they will mix up the races within 6 days of being on the island.

Red, I can mix those races within THREE days.
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post #8 of 397
8/24/06 at 11:40am

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Originally Posted by Michael:M
That IS disappointing. You'd think the producers understand how much having a local or regional connection to a Survivor helps.
More so than ethnic connection?
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post #9 of 397
8/24/06 at 12:31pm

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I love the show, but I really wish we saw more average Joe's.

I just wish they would use a "lottery" system one season & see who they come up with. Drop the "casting" altogether and just draw 20 names out of the pool.

Can you imagine? Out-of-shape people, wallflowers, jerks, ugly people, young, old, idiots, grossly obese people, a little skinny college kid, alcoholics, blue collar, white collar...whatever....

That would ensure the most diverse cast of all & it would be so much more interesting. Just one season!!!
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post #10 of 397
8/24/06 at 12:35pm

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I agree with David. If I want to see Hollywood types, there are a lot of choices. I want to see joe six packs.

This race thing is going to mean bad things for the white team. They wont stand a chance. I can bet the other teams gang up on them.
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post #11 of 397
8/24/06 at 1:44pm

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Originally Posted by Scott-S
If I want to see Hollywood types, there are a lot of choices. I want to see joe six packs.

Huh? Hollywood types? I must be watching a different Survivor cos I've seen very few "Hollywood types" (whatever they are)
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post #12 of 397
8/24/06 at 2:43pm

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Hollywood type is a 20 something, model looking, babe or stud. Each season there are 2 to 4 normal people and the rest are straight out of GQ or Playboy.
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post #13 of 397
8/24/06 at 3:25pm

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It would be cool if the final four ended up being one from each starting group.
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post #14 of 397
8/24/06 at 4:25pm

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What are the races? White, Black, and Hispanic?

I hope the black people win.

That's racist.

But so is the show.

I can just see Farmer John going, "I hope dem whites when it for the confedracy."

It's a super lame idea and I HOPE they mix 'em up really soon.

Mischa - was that supposed to be a joke? Because I cracked up.

ry
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post #15 of 397
8/25/06 at 4:25am

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Originally Posted by David Deeb
I love the show, but I really wish we saw more average Joe's.
I couldn't agree more! But they're trying to building ratings and they think the audience for these reality shows wants models showing their titties and big jocks fighting over who gets the fishing tackle.

But, yep, just one season using the lotto system mentioned above would revive this idea.
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post #16 of 397
8/25/06 at 4:32am

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Originally Posted by RyanAn
What are the races? White, Black, and Hispanic?

White, Black, Hispanic, and Asian
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post #17 of 397
8/25/06 at 4:35am

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Originally Posted by Michael:M
That IS disappointing. You'd think the producers understand how much having a local or regional connection to a Survivor helps.

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Originally Posted by GordonL
More so than ethnic connection?

No, but I couldn't think of a way to write that without sounding preachy or trite. Fact is, I don't like the dividing by ethnicity. IMNSHO, race relations in the US are pretty bad. The producers can use the words "social experiment" all they want, but it was done for ratings and buzz, not altruism.

I don't think dividing by ethnic lines is bad in and of itself, but given the tense state of race relations in the US, I'd rather they did it another way.
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post #18 of 397
8/25/06 at 8:02am

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I hope next season they divide the teams up by religion. Maybe a little mini-war will even break out.
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post #19 of 397
8/25/06 at 9:03am

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If they ever divide teams by religious or political affiliation we won't be able to discuss the show at all!
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post #20 of 397
8/25/06 at 11:57am
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If you guys like the average joes, you're going to love Billy--he said that his hope is to band together with all of the average joes and take out the mactors.
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post #21 of 397
8/25/06 at 12:54pm

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Are they only doing the tryouts in CA now? If so that's probably why so many people from there.

If they got a more geographically diverse group, what about making tribes based on region, like Northeast or Southwest?
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post #22 of 397
8/27/06 at 11:09am

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Originally Posted by David Deeb
I love the show, but I really wish we saw more average Joe's.

I just wish they would use a "lottery" system one season & see who they come up with. Drop the "casting" altogether and just draw 20 names out of the pool.

To some extent, the 10 viewer-winners on the finale of Treasure Hunters fit your criteria for choosing contestants.

I don't see CBS saying yes to 4 months of a group like that.
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post #23 of 397
8/27/06 at 11:14am

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Originally Posted by RyanAn
I can just see Farmer John going, "I hope dem whites when it for the confedracy."

Well, what phrase should the producers of Survivor be trying to get Farmer John to say?

I don't think their job is to get Farmer John to say or do anything other than buying an Aztek.

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Originally Posted by RyanAn
Mischa - was that supposed to be a joke? Because I cracked up.

yes, I thought Matt^Brown's quote mirrored a Name That Tune contestant boasting about his skills.

I'm pretty sure they merged the OLD/YOUNG/MAN/WOMAN tribes right at the beginning of the second episode, and I assume this year's stunt will last only as long as the first episode as well.
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post #24 of 397
8/27/06 at 11:18am

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Originally Posted by Michael:M
I don't think dividing by ethnic lines is bad in and of itself, but given the tense state of race relations in the US, I'd rather they did it another way.

I don't see how it's any more offensive than their standard segregation.

They usually put 'one of each' on each team: One Superman, One Supermodel, One weird old lady.

Don't you think that the persons who realizes they've been cast as the 'weird old lady' is offended by being stereoptyped that way for the initial episode?

The important thing is that in episode two, the human beings playing the game get to pick their own teams, and they will not resemble the promo-based initial configuration.
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post #25 of 397
8/27/06 at 11:20am

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Originally Posted by Dave_Brown
I hope next season they divide the teams up by religion. Maybe a little mini-war will even break out.

Hey, that's a great idea:
Atheists, Christians, Muslims and Jews, all ORTHODOX.

Should make the food challenges a little more interesting!

Hmm. 28 days? Will some of the males conspire to vote out all the females to avoid being placed in an awkward situation at a certain time of the month?
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post #26 of 397
8/27/06 at 12:14pm

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Originally Posted by MishaLauenstein
Hey, that's a great idea:
Atheists, Christians, Muslims and Jews, all ORTHODOX.

...
An Orthodox atheist--the mind boggles.
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post #27 of 397
8/27/06 at 4:02pm

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I say scerw it - 16 migits...um, "little people"
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post #28 of 397
8/27/06 at 5:54pm

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Did they reveal the buff colours as well?
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post #29 of 397
8/27/06 at 8:33pm

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> Don't you think that the persons who realizes they've been cast as the 'weird old lady' is offended by being stereoptyped that way for the initial episode?

They probably don't see themselves as weird, so it's not an issue.
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post #30 of 397
8/28/06 at 9:01am

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This is another fine example of how Political Correctness blows everything way out of proportion.
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