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post #91 of 1150
8/21/06 at 12:51am

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Originally Posted by Douglas R
This is exactly what some of us have been trying to say with little affect to the vociferous region 2 complainants most of whom don't seem to have bought the discs and are judging them purely by screen-shots. Having bought and viewed some of these remastered versions I think they look and sound absolutely marvellous.

I agree, screenshots can't be conclusive evidence but surely something has gone wrong? On some, the differences are night and day on the R2. Unless the film-maker or someone closely involved with these films was able to sign-off, I think we might have a problem here. I guess it's best we wait for the R1.
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post #92 of 1150
8/21/06 at 11:27am

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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
Hopefully, we'll find out the truth so all of us can make a good purchasing decision.

And we'll find out the truth by... buying the 20 discs? Lovely. Well to all those who buy the R1 discs (myself included) and are disappointed (demanding a recall, whatever) because they display the same alterations as the R2 discs, don't say we didn't warn you!

As for Lowry boasting about their work... I'm sure they boasted about the incorrect lightsabre colouring on Star Wars too. In fact look at how Lucasfilm talked Star Wars up in general... and look at (or rather listen to) all the mistakes that we, the humble consumer, have to put up with.

Frankly I don't believe a word of the hype and we really, really, really shouldn't have to put up with it!

John
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post #93 of 1150
8/21/06 at 12:25pm

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Originally Posted by John H Ross
And we'll find out the truth by... buying the 20 discs? Lovely. Well to all those who buy the R1 discs (myself included) and are disappointed (demanding a recall, whatever) because they display the same alterations as the R2 discs, don't say we didn't warn you!

As for Lowry boasting about their work... I'm sure they boasted about the incorrect lightsabre colouring on Star Wars too. In fact look at how Lucasfilm talked Star Wars up in general... and look at (or rather listen to) all the mistakes that we, the humble consumer, have to put up with.

Frankly I don't believe a word of the hype and we really, really, really shouldn't have to put up with it!

John
John,
If you think there is a PQ problem then don't buy them until you get confirmation that all is well. Otherwise, I don't know what else to tell you because it appears we are still wondering if there are framing and color issues.




Crawdaddy
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post #94 of 1150
8/21/06 at 12:26pm

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I share your skepticism and concern about spending a large sum of money on questionable transfers (along with dubious new extras and dull menus..OK, that's my concern).

It's a shame that all 20 new Bond transfers don't appear to be of the same quality as Dr. No and From Russia with Love.

Did more corners get cut as the team tried to rush through 20 movies?

Luckily, we now know that there might be issues with these releases and most HTF readers won't make blind buys.

I'm glad I have a complete SE collection right now.
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post #95 of 1150
8/21/06 at 1:29pm

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I'm still really shocked that the American release is being split up into stupid bundles. Like I said before, I want to watch them in order from the first Bond film to the last. This may be the biggest blunder MGM has ever made. Just in time for Christmas, it would sell like crazy if it were complete w/ all Bond films. Instead we have a Bond film here, and a Bond film there. I really think people will most likely ignore these sets. I picked up The Planet of The Apes Ultimate collection(14 discs) that has everything included, and a cool package to boot for $87.00 at Deepdiscountdvd a few weeks ago, and that indeed is an ULTIMATE COLLECTION. For the American release I think the James Bond Ultimate collection should be changed to the JAmes Bond grab bag. Am I happy All James Bonds films are being released by May of 2007 ...yes, but talk about poor decisions in marketing. JEEPERS!!!
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post #96 of 1150
8/21/06 at 1:40pm

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just read over at home theater forum that fox will handle the bond flicks.
so i know lowery did the job. i think fox puts out great looking dvds so i am looking forward to them.
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post #97 of 1150
8/21/06 at 2:06pm

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I've watched most of the new Bond set, they looked great to me. Goldfinger has never looked this good since it's 1964 release. Even GoldenEye which has had some hysterically over-the-top reviews on it's PQ looked perfectly acceptable, but than I wasn't directly comparing it to my previous copy, staring at a poor quality screenshot or watching it on a 100' screen. I just sat down put my feet up and enjoyed the movie.

The Bonds have certainly never sounded this good before, even the recent Brosnan Bonds sound better than ever.

Re the bundled R1 sets I can't understand, if they have to bundle them do them by decade, the sixties, seventies, eighties e.g. chronological order, don't they give a crap?
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post #98 of 1150
8/21/06 at 2:12pm

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My case arrived today, and I had enough time to check out one movie tonight.

Dr No was a true pleasure to watch, until my amp started to crap out with a message of "Protect! Push Power!" so either a) I need to sort out the power points in my lounge room (which yes, is overloaded), or b) take the bastard in for repair.
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post #99 of 1150
8/21/06 at 2:34pm

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Commanderbond.net is reporting that the final 10 DVDs will be released in 2 sets on December 12:

Vol 3: FRWL, OHMSS, LALD, FYEO, Goldeneye

Vol 4: Dr. No, YOLT, Moonraker, Octopussy, TND

Well, that's nice that we won't have to wait until May 2007! Now if all 20 films will be released in 4 5-film sets by December, will we also have the option to buy the attache case megaset like the rest of the world??
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post #100 of 1150
8/21/06 at 2:51pm

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Guess this makes it official for R1 (posted at the Bits):

"First up on 11/7, Fox will release MGM's The James Bond Ultimate Collection - Volume 1 (SRP $89.98, including The Man with the Golden Gun, Goldfinger, The World Is Not Enough, Diamonds Are Forever and The Living Daylights) and The James Bond Ultimate Collection - Volume 2 (SRP $89.98, including A View to a Kill, Thunderball, Die Another Day, The Spy Who Loved Me and License to Kill)."

I might as well stop reading about the UEs, I'm not buying random Bond sets again.
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post #101 of 1150
8/21/06 at 2:54pm

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I've watched a little more than half of the new R2 set, and I must say that, with the exception of Goldeneye, every one of the films I've seen (I've watched mostly just the older ones) looks much improved from the old DVDs. I am especially at a loss as to why everyone is freaking out about the opening of OHMSS. For one thing, I don't agree with some of the coloring I've seen of the screen-shots, and I'd be curious to know how they are being created. But what I see in that opening sequence is, finally, consistancy on the color timing of all the shots that make up that scene. In previous home video versions (most notoriously the laserdisc), they never seem to be able to decide if they're doing day-for-night, day-for-dawn, magic hour, etc. It used to vary wildly between light blue and deep purple. Now, the scene actually looks like a continous piece of action, not like a bunch of cobbled-together shots clearly all shot on different days. I give kudos to Lowry's team for their great job on OHMSS.

My only real complaint has been with some of the really stupid ideas that went into some of these 5.1 remixes. They really grate on me. I may have to replace a handful of these titles if and when the R1s are ever available for individual sale just for the original mixes.

-Lyle J.P.
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post #102 of 1150
8/21/06 at 4:35pm

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Originally Posted by Frank@N
Guess this makes it official for R1 (posted at the Bits):

"First up on 11/7, Fox will release MGM's The James Bond Ultimate Collection - Volume 1 (SRP $89.98, including The Man with the Golden Gun, Goldfinger, The World Is Not Enough, Diamonds Are Forever and The Living Daylights) and The James Bond Ultimate Collection - Volume 2 (SRP $89.98, including A View to a Kill, Thunderball, Die Another Day, The Spy Who Loved Me and License to Kill)."


Bits update

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Just a quick late update this afternoon, to let you all know that Fox has just revealed the 12/12 release of Volumes 3 and 4 of their James Bond Ultimate Collection box sets. Volume 3 will include Goldeneye, Live and Let Die, For Your Eyes Only, From Russia with Love and On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Volume 4 will round out the presentation with Dr. No, You Only Live Twice, Octopussy, Tomorrow Never Dies and Moonraker. Like the first two, these sets will carry an SRP of $89.98 each.

There's no word yet on a Blu-ray Disc high-definition release of these films, but as they've all recently been given new HD transfers, it's certainly possible once Fox reveals their BD plans.
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post #103 of 1150
8/21/06 at 6:19pm

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Well, at least those interested in buying the entire collection won't have to wait as long to do so. Hopefully this will hasten individual releases as well.
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post #104 of 1150
8/21/06 at 9:21pm

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The fourth volume is the most appealing to me. If the reviews are positive, I may upgrade.
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post #105 of 1150
8/22/06 at 1:56am

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This is really annoying. I only want Goldfinger, The Living Daylights, and Goldeneye. The others I wouldn't mind trying out via netflix, though.

I know these had a lot of work put into them, but Universal put out a 14-film box set of Alfred Hitchcock movies for the same price as just one of the four 5-movie volumes. Maybe it's not a good comparision, but I'm irked that they want $90 MSRP for five films.
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post #106 of 1150
8/22/06 at 2:09am

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Originally Posted by Patrick McCart
This is really annoying. I only want Goldfinger, The Living Daylights, and Goldeneye. The others I wouldn't mind trying out via netflix, though.

I know these had a lot of work put into them, but Universal put out a 14-film box set of Alfred Hitchcock movies for the same price as just one of the four 5-movie volumes. Maybe it's not a good comparision, but I'm irked that they want $90 MSRP for five films.
This is my only criticism of Fox which is handling the distribution of MGM films. They apparently have brought over their price structure of boxsets to MGM dvds now. The only way consumers can change that policy is not to buy the dvds.




Crawdaddy
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post #107 of 1150
8/22/06 at 2:19am

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Well, at $18 a 2-disc set, it's not that shabby. Shop at a big chain or amazon, and you'll get 30% off that, meaning it's around $13.50 a title (for 2 discs).

perhaps we've just been spoiled with DVD lately, but that's not too shabby to me.
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post #108 of 1150
8/28/06 at 11:31pm

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I've bought the r4 release of the Ultimate Collection - not happy about the lack of mono in our version, or the picture issues, or the non-burnt-in-subtitles, but I just gave in when I saw it in the shops. Besides, I don't have any of the previous releases.

Anyway, despite the problems, I'm enjoying rewatching the films - most of which I haven't seen in years.

My one disappointment - I searched through the Thunderball disc hoping for a copy of the titles with Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang as the song. I would have thought that would be an obvious special feature. But, despite a small snippet of that in one of the previously-released documentaries, they didn't include the full thing. Shame.
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post #109 of 1150
8/29/06 at 12:16am

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Matthew - The commentary track plays "Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" over the credits.
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post #110 of 1150
8/29/06 at 12:16am

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the bundled sets really take the shine off of what has been a much looked forward to release.

On the positive side, DDD should (hopefully) have a sale that hits right around the release of the first wave, which would likely mean about 40-45% off msrp- so figure about $50 per set for the first two.


If anyone wants You Only Live Twice, Goldfinger, Man With The Golden Gun, Octopussy, View To A Kill, or any of the Brosnan ones, let me know- I'll be putting em up for sale as soon as I take the shrink wrap off the boxes.
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post #111 of 1150
8/29/06 at 6:45pm

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Brandon - Thanks. I hadn't thought of that. I'll look at it tonight.
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post #112 of 1150
8/30/06 at 11:55am

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Could someone tell me if any of the original United Artists logos appear on these new discs? Also deepdiscountdvd has these sets up now for about $55 each.
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post #113 of 1150
8/30/06 at 1:47pm

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Originally Posted by gomezfan69
Could someone tell me if any of the original United Artists logos appear on these new discs? Also deepdiscountdvd has these sets up now for about $55 each.

I would love to see the original UA logos but they don't appear on the region 2 discs and I'm sure they won't be on R1 either because MGM always edit them out, substituting their modern version. I saw a TV broadcast recently of one of the Bond films, here in the UK, which actually DID have the original logo.
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post #114 of 1150
8/30/06 at 3:18pm

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Originally Posted by Douglas R
I would love to see the original UA logos but they don't appear on the region 2 discs and I'm sure they won't be on R1 either because MGM always edit them out, substituting their modern version. I saw a TV broadcast recently of one of the Bond films, here in the UK, which actually DID have the original logo.

You can usually rely on British television to run authentic period studio logos (though I don't actually understand why; perhaps their beta masters hold up really well...?). Was well miffed having watched Mr Majestyk on BBC1 several months back with original UA logo as the score played over it (figured that would be a safe bet), only to find when I bought the dvd that they'd substituted it for the current logo!! Grrrrr

I thought that ITV's Bond prints had succumbed lately to new logos but perhaps it depends on the film. I've kept my tapes of off-air recordings for this very reason so I have examples of original logos like the MGM lion in front of Octopussy that looks almost hand coloured and my favourite of all: the Transamerica blue T flower in front of Diamonds are Forever. Quality. And you can bet your next paycheque that you wont see them on dvd. On a related note a couple of years back they showed one of the later Connerys, left the tape running a few seconds after the end of the credits to show an ABC television broadcast presentation card. Cool.
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post #115 of 1150
9/9/06 at 9:41am

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I ordered 4 of the Region 2 Ultimate Edition titles.
I don't think anyone will be disappointed with these films. They look amazing with the new video remastering and also the DTS sound is great. They are a huge upgrade over the Special Editions.
I was amazed at how clean the picture looks now. Even the burn mark in Golden Gun has been removed. This is in the scene where Bond is in Q's lab and they are analyzing the bullet.

I am ordering all of the films in Region 1 DVD.

If anyone has questions on them, let me know. The titles I ordered are Diamonds Are Forever, Live and Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, and Moonraker.

Deep Discount DVD is listing the 2 November sets for $55 each. I am told that they run a 20% off sale in November so that would help with these sets too.


Here is the artwork for boxes
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post #116 of 1150
9/9/06 at 9:45am

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I ordered 4 of the Region 2 Ultimate Edition titles.
I don't think anyone will be disappointed with these films. They look amazing with the new video remastering and also the DTS sound is great. They are a huge upgrade over the Special Editions.
I was amazed at how clean the picture looks now. Even the burn mark in Golden Gun has been removed. This is in the scene where Bond is in Q's lab and they are analyzing the bullet.

I am ordering all of the films in Region 1 DVD.

If anyone has questions on them, let me know. The titles I ordered are Diamonds Are Forever, Live and Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, and Moonraker.

Deep Discount DVD is listing the 2 November sets for $55 each. I am told that they run a 20% off sale in November so that would help with these sets too.


Here is the artwork for boxes 1 and 2:
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...editions2.html
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post #117 of 1150
9/9/06 at 1:03pm

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Does anyone know if the Patrick Macnee-narrated documentaries on the previous issues are carried over to the UE set? Or if they're on the R2 reissues? They were, to me, the highlight of the previous set. I often watch them apart from the movies. If they're not on the UE, then it's a no sale for me.
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post #118 of 1150
9/9/06 at 3:53pm

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Yes, all but one of the "Inside..." documenteries have been carried over (Die Another Day is the exception).

-Lyle J.P.
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post #119 of 1150
9/10/06 at 5:46am

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Thanks, Lyle! I didn't think the Macnee documentaries carried that far, did they?
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post #120 of 1150
9/10/06 at 7:43am

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Originally Posted by Ted Kontos
Thanks, Lyle! I didn't think the Macnee documentaries carried that far, did they?

No, they only went as far as Licence to Kill. But there was a documentary called "Inside Die Another Day" on the original release that did not make it to the Ultimate Edition disc, so I thought I'd mention it.

Also, the isolated score on Tomorrow Never Dies didn't make it over, and the Goldeneye transfer is quite flawed. Really, the Brosnan films (with the exception of The World Is Not Enough) got the short end of the stick on these new releases. But the first 16 look and sound beautiful, and are chock full of great extras. And finally seeing what would have been the rated 'R' cut of Licence to Kill was terrific.

-Lyle J.P.
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