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post #241 of 1150

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So wait - The blood in the R1 is Red and R2 is Blue - Two Transfers? Is there still anyhope that with Set 3 OHMSS R1 Pre-titles Will Not be a night shot?
post #242 of 1150

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The R2 have been re-released minus the slip cases for the "Buy Bond Get Bond Free" promo and TWINE does not have Player generated subs when all the other R2 discs have.
Could these be new transfers ?
post #243 of 1150

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No. TWINE had burnt-in subs on the R2 disc released in July as well. It was the only Brosnan film transfered this way. Player-generated subs are on the other three.

-Lyle J.P.
post #244 of 1150

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Originally Posted by Lyle_JP
No. TWINE had burnt-in subs on the R2 disc released in July as well. It was the only Brosnan film transfered this way. Player-generated subs are on the other three.

-Lyle J.P.
Thanks for clearing that up, any idea on the missing dialogue from TND ?
post #245 of 1150

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Originally Posted by Mike Wadkins

Licence to kill
Again lowrey have done a fantastic job notice the print damage on the second shot now gone, even tho it will be lost in over scan






Above, Mike did a comparison of the old R1 to the new R2. It would be great if someone could post a screen capture of the new R1 to see if they fixed the loss of color on the new R2 disc.
post #246 of 1150

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Originally Posted by Carl Fink
So, the early negative impressions of this release were all based on its Region-2 counterpart? And the domestic release contains different, superior transfers? Is that the general concensus?

I'm very disappointed in what I'm seeing. Thunderball is a net gain, but since you have to buy them in sets of 5, that doesn't offset a horrible new transfer for SWLM, and a poor rendition of License To Kill . LTK lacks the abundant aliasing and compression artifacting from the previous release- but it replaces those problems with unnaturally pumped up colors and unnaturally boosted contrast- to me this isn't a plus- its just replacing certain problems with a different set of problems that need to be further corrected somewhere down the line.
The screen shots above illustrate perfectly what I'm talking about. I have no idea wich color timing represents how the film is supposed to look, but given all the other problems with these transfers, I assume its the former verisions that are closer. Just look at the womans face- look at the harsher, digitally edgy looking transitions of the shadows on her face. The new transfer can be downright ugly at times (and its even worse with SWLM).


maybe by the time Craig is on his third Bond film, we'll get new versions that correct all the problems with this batch
post #247 of 1150

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Originally Posted by rich_d
Above, Mike did a comparison of the old R1 to the new R2. It would be great if someone could post a screen capture of the new R1 to see if they fixed the loss of color on the new R2 disc.

I forgot I did that lol
I found my old MWTGG today and was going to compare that and my TWINE

Update TWINE

Top R1 007 CE
Bottom R2 UE








post #248 of 1150

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Wow. Thanks for the screencap Carter.

Looks as though it IS a different transfer to the R2 UE. That screencap is certainly as red as the SE transfer - not colorless like the R2 UE.

I hope someone gets to the bottom of this soon. From this screencap alone, it certainly looks as though MGM have fixed some of the problems. If they've done this to Thunderball, then it's certainly possible that the day-for-night effect in the pre-title sequence of OHMSS could be fixed as well. Here's hoping....
post #249 of 1150

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Golden Gun

Top R2 007se
Bottom R2 UE

(Capture 2 couldn't get a frame match sorry its late and im tired)








post #250 of 1150

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I popped in Licence to Kill and the colours seem perfectly balanced on my set. Also, the green-look of the above caps appears blue like the original. But I will post a cap of it in a moment...
post #251 of 1150

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I went to capture the R1 UE title image of Licence and I can confirm it still has the green look to it. However, on my HD-TV it appears blue. I think that computer monitors display colours differently as I've also noticed this kind of thing with Blade Runner and others.
post #252 of 1150

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My R1 LTK looks like the R2 also.
post #253 of 1150

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Do the movies come in keepcases or digipaks? I haven't bought these yet.
post #254 of 1150

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I believe they come in thinpaks.
post #255 of 1150

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I have to say I am an avid Bond fan since first remembered viewings as a young boy in the late seventies early eighties on ABC television airings.

I originally bought the 2000 dvd editions (I even had at one point a couple of the old Criterion laserdisc versions in the nineties sans controversial commentaries). I've enjoyed the 2000 editions for six years now (putting up with their problems).

I am in the middle of watching them all in chronological order (also in tune with reading the excellent James Bond Legacy coffee table book by John Cork) -- the first seven days of this month, November, I have watched the first seven Bond's (including the extras). I will continue watching up to the 21st and then go see Casino Royale (the 21st EON Bond flick).

I will not be getting the new 2006 editions til May when Casino Royale comes out on dvd. I don't know if they will be less expensive online by then (probably not) but right now money is tight for me with the holidays and due to health problems my mother is experiencing (I help her out as much as I can). So I am enjoying watching my original 2000 collection which I have got great fun out of over the last six years.

I must admit I am not an avid audio/video phile (I still watch movies on my old 1998 Pioneer dvd player and small screen t.v.), you could say I am not with the times (but I have got great use out of these old devices).

This is my first post here at Home Theater Forum (I posted along time ago in the early 2000's briefly).

Do people here also discuss mainly movies (reviews and favourites ect)? Not discussing technical issues mainly/only?

Lastly, I have found one site (online retailer), that lists the extra features on the new Bond Ultimate Editions- does anyone know if there is a site that details exactly what extra features are brand new for these new releases? I did notice they include a broadcast t.v. special on the Thunderball film which i have read about in the Bond Legacy book.

My favourite Bond flick is On Her Majesty's Secret Service and my favourite Bond actor is Pierce Brosnan with Sean Connery a close second (although overall I like the Connery film series plots the best). I agree with Christopher Lee about Brosnan being the best Bond (suave and graceful), though I only really like two Brosnan flicks- Goldeneye and then, The World is Not Enough.

I don't really think the attache case in the UK is worth getting unless you live in the UK (one could order the case on Amazon UK provided they have a regionless dvd player, but it would still be more money than getting the US boxed sets).

Late next year I am hoping financially to upgrade my player and t.v. system perhaps waiting on the new formats (?) Question- will the new formats/dvd players be backwards compatible (excuse my ignorance).

Well, that's my comments on Bond for my first post.
post #256 of 1150

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Welcome to HTF, Sean.
post #257 of 1150

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I'm not sure if this has been covered here yet (my apologies if it has)...but this new LICENCE TO KILL release is the "uncut" edition. It appears as though the film was resubmitted to the MPAA and STILL got a PG-13 (the DVD case features the actual rating as well as the "specific content" notification--in this case "Action Violence and Drug Content").

I'm not sure if Lowry used an old overseas print, or if John Glen recently restored the cuts he made initially to avoid the R rating.

Frankly, although the cuts don't really amount to much, they certain show more gore...although I'm not quite sure it falls into the "R" catagory.

We see a brief shot of Felix Leiter's bloody stump after he's attacked by sharks in the "torture" scene.

We get to see Anthony Zerbe's head explode (no cutaway as in the previous edition).

We get to see chunks of Benicio Del Toro's legs fall through the grinder (that was a little shocking, to be honest).

The shot of Sanchez's burning body as he runs and falls is extended (and the fire stunt actually looks VERY convincing).

I've read also that the sound FX when Sachez "disciplines" Lupe has been amped up a bit...but I can't say as though I really gave it any notice.

Anyway, the restored cuts make LICENCE TO KILL easily the bloodiest Bond adventure.

As for the complaints here about the colors and contrast of the new LTK DVD...I didn't notice any of it. The picture looks gorgeous to me.

Regards,

- Shane D.
post #258 of 1150

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Originally Posted by keenwatcher
does anyone know if there is a site that details exactly what extra features are brand new for these new releases?

Here's a press release which highlights the new features. It is primarily archival footage (the "MI6 Vault" sections), as well as the newly recorded Moore commentaries.

http://www.davisdvd.com/bin/press178.html
post #259 of 1150

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Initially, I was going to pass on the new editions -- I have all of the older ones, and since I'm trying to save up for a $7000 camera and eventually a new computer setup, I've been much more selective with my purchasing...

...and then I watched my old DVD of Dr. No over the weekend. Suddenly the idea of a new version started seeming more and more worthwhile. By the time Tuesday rolled around, I ended up deciding to spring for it, and make the (pain in the ass) trek to Best Buy to get the best price. All day Tuesday I had been thinking about going home, making dinner and Bond martini and watching the new Thunderball. Didn't happen--got caught up watching election coverage and didn't make it to bed until waaaay after midnight.

Last night before bed, I compared the beginning of Thunderball from the old disc to the new, and decided to watch a little of Goldfinger as well... and a little of Goldfinger turned into most of Goldfinger, and I know I passed out shortly before the end.

From the limited portions I've seen (most of Goldfinger, first and last five minutes of Thunderball, Diamonds Are Forever, and Licence To Kill), I'm really impressed. These films are looking better than I've ever seen them. I suppose that's no real surprise, but it's one thing to read about it and look at framecaps, and another thing to actually *see* it with your own eyes.

The big thing that I've noticed across the board is that all of the shots with optical effects or composites have been cleaned up in a way that wasn't possible when the films were originally released. Normally, I'm not a big fan of heavy digital cleanup that, while looking clear, changes the original intended look of the films. However, it's a pretty safe bet that none of the filmmakers liked the shaky optical composites and all of the printed in dirt that was probably unavoidable at the time of release.

For a quick and easy example of what I'm talking about, just watch the opening "gun barrel" sequence on any of the (pre-Brosnan) films. Even though it's only a few seconds, it's always been one of my favorite parts of going to see (or watching) a Bond movie. It's the first of many signature things you see in a Bond film, but that right there sets the tone for me and gets me excited about seeing the movie. And as simple or as stupid as this might be, watching the movies last night and seeing those openings looking clearer and cleaner than I've ever seen them was a joy.

(I should mention that when I was younger, I was such a dork that I actually knew all the gun barrels by heart, and which movies had longer ones, shorter ones, what variations, and favorites, as well as ones I thought stunk. Die Another Day, with the bullet flying right at you, ugh.)
post #260 of 1150

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Nice write-up, Josh.
post #261 of 1150

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For those who have Volumes 1 & 2 of this, can you PM me with front cover scans of the individual releases? To illustrate better as to what I'm asking, I just need higher resolution images of the following (scan in 72dpi, if you could):

James Bond Ultimate Edition Volume 1 Back Case Cover
James Bond Ultimate Edition Volume 2 Back Case Cover

Thank you in advance!

And I can't wait to buy these either.
post #262 of 1150

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These first 2 volumes are now $43.91 at DeepDiscountDVD.com (using one of the 20% off codes). See the Coupons & Bargains forum for the codes.
post #263 of 1150

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Now let's hope they fixed Goldeneye on Region 1 then, Wasn't that pretty bad on Region 2 UE
post #264 of 1150

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Thanks for the welcome Brent.

Thanks for the lead on the Ultimate Editions extra features webpage, James.

I took a looksee at them and they do have a fair amount of extras not on the original 1999-2000 editions (though some are the same), I will look forward to the Roger Moore commentary tracks and the improved pictures (though on my small screen Sony t.v., I dont really notice a picture quality effect- maybe when I get a plasma in the next couple of years I will enjoy my dvd's more, along with an upgraded sound system too).

Again, thanks for helping a novice.
post #265 of 1150

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Is there any reason to keep the last set of special editions for any extras that were left off the new ultimate editions? Thanks.
post #266 of 1150

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Originally Posted by DeanR
Is there any reason to keep the last set of special editions for any extras that were left off the new ultimate editions? Thanks.

I recommend going to DVDCompare.net and typing in 007. All of Volume 1 for the release is covered for the Special Editions and the Ultimate Editions. Whilst only two titles were the last time I've checked have been updated. Good luck!
post #267 of 1150

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The only movie that doesn't carry over every previous extra is Die Another Day.
post #268 of 1150

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I just finished Goldfinger, Thunderball and Diamonds are Forever. Gotta say best picture quality I've ever seen these movies in. As I was watching the opening credits I was thinking I would love a DVD that only had all 20 opening songs on it. Maybe it's just me but I think that would be a pretty unique music DVD. If I had a DVD burner I would try it.

post #269 of 1150

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Originally Posted by Frank Anderson
I just finished Goldfinger, Thunderball and Diamonds are Forever. Gotta say best picture quality I've ever seen these movies in. As I was watching the opening credits I was thinking I would love a DVD that only had all 20 opening songs on it. Maybe it's just me but I think that would be a pretty unique music DVD. If I had a DVD burner I would try it.


You mean the song and titles, or just the song with nothing? There is an option on each dvd to just watch the opening titles with or without the text. Kinda cool if you didn't know
post #270 of 1150

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Originally Posted by Mike Wadkins
The R2 have been re-released minus the slip cases for the "Buy Bond Get Bond Free" promo and TWINE does not have Player generated subs when all the other R2 discs have.
Could these be new transfers ?

It does actually. But only during one scene. The sequence in which Elektra vows to take the pipeline around the ancient shrine still, for some bizarre reason, employs player-generated captions on the R2, but the rest are all burnt-in.

For more information on this, and other anomalies and bits of trivia, go here:

http://www.zetaminor.com/dvd/james_b...tro_casino.htm

Hope this helps.

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