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post #31 of 48
8/23/06 at 7:20pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

I like the Rocky Horror fanfare.
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post #32 of 48
8/24/06 at 1:06am

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

Wow! After reading this I sort of long for Will success spoil Rock
Hunter on DVD. As far as I can see, it's not available.
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post #33 of 48
8/24/06 at 6:30am

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

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Originally Posted by Joel Henderson
Yeah 9 times out of 10 my subwoofer is largely muted when playing a DD5.1 track, as opposed to DTS which has that loooow gutteral fealing.

I tend to have the opposite situation on my system. The DTS track will often sound brighter and have more aggressive surrounds, yet the Dolby track will have mega bass that blows DTS out of the water.

I love this thread. It's great to learn the history of the worlds most famous movie fanfare.
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post #34 of 48
8/24/06 at 6:39am

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

Unless I'm missing a joke, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? was released a few weeks back in the Jayne Mansfield set. I haven't screened it yet but the discussion has piqued my interest as well.
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post #35 of 48
8/24/06 at 7:56pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

Other than the short version and the Cinemascope extension version, I always thought they all sounded pretty much the same until True Lies, which, unless I'm mistaken, was the first movie to use Fox's new CGI intro. True Lies was the first version of the fanfare that I noticed sounded significantly different.

I did see Alien 3 at the theater (and was ultimately the only time I ever saw it), but I obviously wasn't paying any attention to the fanfare if it played like everyone says it did. Maybe I was paying too much attention to my date at the time.
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post #36 of 48
8/24/06 at 9:50pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

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Originally Posted by Joel Fontenot
Other than the short version and the Cinemascope extension version, I always thought they all sounded pretty much the same until True Lies, which, unless I'm mistaken, was the first movie to use Fox's new CGI intro. True Lies was the first version of the fanfare that I noticed sounded significantly different.

Actually, I believe it was Speed that first used the CG Fox logo.
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post #37 of 48
8/25/06 at 4:14am

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Unless I'm missing a joke, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? was released a few weeks back in the Jayne Mansfield set

Perhaps. I just did a quick search on DVD sites and it did
not come up. Perhaps it was never sold as a "single" and thus
not appearing in a search result.
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post #38 of 48
8/25/06 at 9:19pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

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Originally Posted by Richard Kim
Actually, I believe it was Speed that first used the CG Fox logo.
For some reason, I always thought it was True Lies. Unless someone else verifies this, I'll have to wait to check my DVDs since they are all still in a box after a recent move.

But Speed was released 2 months before True Lies.
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post #39 of 48
8/26/06 at 2:50am

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

I'm also just about certain that the new CGI Fox logo premiered
with Speed.

I am surprised someone remembered that too, as I was hoping
to make it a trivia question on this forum one day.
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post #40 of 48
8/26/06 at 2:26pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
I'm also just about certain that the new CGI Fox logo premiered
with Speed.
Acording to in70mm.com, it was True Lies.
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post #41 of 48
8/26/06 at 2:50pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

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Originally Posted by Mark Kalzer
The FOX logo intro at its best is one of the strongest cinematic intros out of all the studios. On the Die Hard discs it has the greatest punch through the sound system. It seems odd though that so many other FOX discs with the exact same musical score do not have the same force with the logo, not even the Star Wars DVDs have matched it.

It makes me wonder what goes on in sound mixing studios that the Die Hard logos can sound so much stronger yet on other action movies in can be so muted and rather dull.

What is going on here? It's the same clip practically!
Different versions aside, when catalog titles are restored, the logo audio may be in poor condition, and instead of stealing a nice new clean version from some other project, I'll bet they just use the one that is mixed with the feature that is being remastered. Also, sometimes the logo audio is cross-faded into the feature score/audio- so it may not be easy to just swap out for a better sounding version.
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post #42 of 48
8/26/06 at 3:04pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

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Originally Posted by David Allen
Different versions aside, when catalog titles are restored, the logo audio may be in poor condition, and instead of stealing a nice new clean version from some other project, I'll bet they just use the one that is mixed with the feature that is being remastered. Also, sometimes the logo audio is cross-faded into the feature score/audio- so it may not be easy to just swap out for a better sounding version.
Yeah, case in point the Cinemascope version on Star Wars which has always sounded like it was passed through a tin can telephone on its way to the lt/rt, 5.1, and EX printmasters.
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post #43 of 48
8/27/06 at 8:41pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

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Originally Posted by ScottR
I like the Rocky Horror fanfare.

That's one of my favorites as well... Just piano and drums.

Of course, I might be a little bit biased on that one. :-P
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post #44 of 48
8/28/06 at 11:57am

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

This is a really interesting thread.

I always like how many versions of the 20th Century Fox logo there was....

Some are muted and dull others are sharp and/or bombastic. The subtleties are astounding!
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post #45 of 48
8/28/06 at 1:23pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

DD5.1 and DTS sound basically equally as good. Sometimes DTS seems it has more bass, but is that good or bad? Alot have been way to boomy.I have heard some very bad DTS dvd's. Also if it is a dts disc,and there is no dts logo in the end credits,it really doesn't sound that good. To artificial.














dd5.1
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post #46 of 48
8/28/06 at 6:45pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

Alfred Newman's conducting of his original fanfare, with the Cinemascope extension, is still by far the best rendition.
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post #47 of 48
8/28/06 at 11:43pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

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Originally Posted by Doug Bull
Alfred Newman's conducting of his original fanfare, with the Cinemascope extension, is still by far the best rendition.

Hear. Hear!!
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post #48 of 48
8/30/06 at 10:03pm

Re: The FOX Logo, why can it sound so different on different discs?

BTW, finally checked my Speed DVD, and it did have the new CGI Fox logo.

So, looks like Ronald had it right and both us Joels were wrong.
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